Mickey_Raider wrote: ↑April 28, 2024, 5:26 pm
I couldn’t give a **** about losing the game. I had zero expectations and our spine has about 20 games of experience.
But being inexperienced doesn’t explain or excuse paper thin defence and the same putrid non-existent attacking structure we have seen for 10 years.
Sharks have done pretty much nothing special and will rack up 50 on us here.
Nothing special?
They've owned the ruck and done the basics better.
They've outclassed a borderline NSW Cup side.
Take out Hynes, Kennedy and (ugh) Wilton do you think it's even?
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afgtnk wrote: ↑April 28, 2024, 5:22 pm
I'm loathe to go too hard on a young spine player trying to find his feet in firsts, but for a guy who's not particularly quick, agile, or large, Chevy Stewart will need to start bringing skill to the fore quickly. Being brave doesn't make you an NRL fullback.
He's 18 and there is no structure for him to bring that to the table
Being brave and physically handling this level is about all i need from him at this stage
I've taken all that into consideration. Just saying, a guy who is at a natural disadvantage with limited physical attributes, in a comp where you're up against the athleticism and skill of Walsh, Ponga, Trobjevic, Tedesco et al, you need to have A LOT up your sleeve (think Gutherson), lest you want to find yourself in the bottom 2-3 players in the position.
This is a fair argument. Fullback is a stacked position these days
afgtnk wrote: ↑April 28, 2024, 5:22 pm
I'm loathe to go too hard on a young spine player trying to find his feet in firsts, but for a guy who's not particularly quick, agile, or large, Chevy Stewart will need to start bringing skill to the fore quickly. Being brave doesn't make you an NRL fullback.
He's 18 and there is no structure for him to bring that to the table
Being brave and physically handling this level is about all i need from him at this stage
I've taken all that into consideration. Just saying, a guy who is at a natural disadvantage with limited physical attributes, in a comp where you're up against the athleticism and skill of Walsh, Ponga, Trobjevic, Tedesco et al, you need to have A LOT up your sleeve (think Gutherson), lest you want to find yourself in the bottom 2-3 players in the position.
Look you might be right and his ball playing never becomes a thing at NRL level, but he's got it at lower levels and he's got loads of time to develop. He's not close to what he'll be as a player right now.
Think it's faaaaaaaar too soon to be worried about that.
-PJ- wrote: ↑April 28, 2024, 5:31 pm
Hey, I’ve noticed just now that Seb Kris is playing today.
Really!!
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
The Greenhouse wrote: ↑April 28, 2024, 5:26 pm
Certain loss now… but the finger can’t be pointed at the younger brigade…
I have a feeling we will be saying this a lot
I said last week they we could get the spoon and nothing in this performance indicates otherwise. Our spine is either too young or not very good and we don’t have the quality of players around that spine to overcome that.
I agree. No Fog, no Rapa, no Hosking, no Horse, and Levi at hooker = spoon contention.
Ultima wrote: ↑April 28, 2024, 5:31 pm
I guess we aren't finding out this week who our kicker is... This is **** embarrassing...
Haha we actually said before the game that it doesn’t matter who our goal kicker is with Fog and Rapa out as we won’t be scoring any tries. How accurate that is
Mickey_Raider wrote: ↑April 28, 2024, 5:26 pm
I couldn’t give a **** about losing the game. I had zero expectations and our spine has about 20 games of experience. I also fully understand and expect we are going to slide down the table over the remainder of the season.
But being inexperienced doesn’t explain or excuse paper thin defence and the same putrid non-existent attacking structure we have seen for 10 years.
Sharks have done pretty much nothing special and will rack up 50 on us here.
100% agree. Timoko aside they have looked disinterested from the opening whistle.
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Hong Kong Raider wrote: ↑April 28, 2024, 5:22 pm
What do Hudson Young and Smithies offer?
Bit harsh on Smithies. He is a toiler who is in the middle of everything, his upside is obvious to me but he can't do it alone. Hudson on the other hand is lacking in all areas. His defence is horrible, his attack has no variation, he lacks size, footwork, strength, speed and power. He has peaked and is on the decline IMO.
afgtnk wrote: ↑April 28, 2024, 5:16 pm
Hudson Young's lucky we've got the problems we do in the edge position, otherwise he should be facing a stint in reggies
He's been very disappointing from the games ive seen
We need MUCH better from him
All evidence is that he doesn't have much better to give. His "bad streak of form" has run about four times longer than his good streak did.
Hong Kong Raider wrote: ↑April 28, 2024, 5:22 pm
What do Hudson Young and Smithies offer?
Bit harsh on Smithies. He is a toiler who is in the middle of everything, his upside is obvious to me but he can't do it alone. Hudson on the other hand is lacking in all areas. His defence is horrible, his attack has no variation, he lacks size, footwork, strength, speed and power. He has peaked and is on the decline IMO.
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
