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2016 Rd 4 V Titans: Teams and Previews
Canberra Raiders V Gold Coast Titans
Canberra Stadium
Saturday 26 March, 5:30pm
Tickets: Click here
TV coverage: Fox Sports live
Radio: ABC, 2CC
It was a frustrating 24-24 draw with the Newcastle Knights in Round 3 - a match the Raiders really should have won. Canberra was clearly the better team in the first half, certainly were not in the second, and a last gasp miracle try from Brenko Lee forced golden point. Both teams had multiple opportunities to win the match in extra time, but didn't.
Ricky Stuart went into the match with just one recognised half, dropping Lachlan Croker to Mounties and naming Elliott Whitehead at five eighth - though Josh Hodgson took over organisational duties in the match. Joseph Tapine debuted from the bench in green, and impressed.
At least one competition point was salvaged.
The Raiders come back home in Round 4 to meet the Gold Coast Titans. Who do you think should line up for the Green Machine? Tell us your team here and see how you go in comparison to the official squad when announced. We will include the official line ups in the first post of this thread as soon as they're available. Plus all the previews for the clash with the Titans.
Canberra Raiders
Jack Wighton 2. Edrick Lee 3. Jarrod Croker 4. Brenko Lee 5. Jordan Rapana 6. Elliot Whitehead 7. Sam Williams 8. Shannon Boyd 9. Josh Hodgson 10. Frank Paul Nuuausala 11. Josh Papalii 12. Iosia Soliola 13. Shaun Fensom
14. Kurt Baptiste 15. Joseph Tapine 16. Paul Vaughan 17. Jeff Lima
Gold Coast Titans
1. David Mead 2. Anthony Don 3. Josh Hoffman 4. John Olive 5. Nene Macdonald 6. Tyrone Roberts 7. Ashley Taylor 8. David Shillington 9. Nathan Friend 10. Agnatius Paasi 11. Zeb Taia 12. Chris McQueen 13. Greg Bird
14. Luke Douglas 15. Ryan James 16. Leivaha Pulu 17. Daniel Mortimer 18. Eddy Pettybourne
Officials:
Referees: Henry Perenara, Chris Sutton;Sideline Officials: Rohan Best, Dave Ryan;Video Referees: Ben Galea, Jared Maxwell, Luke Patten
Match Hashtags: #NRL #WeareRaiders #BleedGreen #NRLRaidersTitans
The Greenhouse Hashtags: #WearGreen2016 #FromAllAngles
NSW Premiership teams: http://thegh.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php ... 2#p1356562
Holden Cup teams: http://thegh.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php ... 6#p1356566
Canberra Raiders V Gold Coast Titans
Canberra Stadium
Saturday 26 March, 5:30pm
Tickets: Click here
TV coverage: Fox Sports live
Radio: ABC, 2CC
It was a frustrating 24-24 draw with the Newcastle Knights in Round 3 - a match the Raiders really should have won. Canberra was clearly the better team in the first half, certainly were not in the second, and a last gasp miracle try from Brenko Lee forced golden point. Both teams had multiple opportunities to win the match in extra time, but didn't.
Ricky Stuart went into the match with just one recognised half, dropping Lachlan Croker to Mounties and naming Elliott Whitehead at five eighth - though Josh Hodgson took over organisational duties in the match. Joseph Tapine debuted from the bench in green, and impressed.
At least one competition point was salvaged.
The Raiders come back home in Round 4 to meet the Gold Coast Titans. Who do you think should line up for the Green Machine? Tell us your team here and see how you go in comparison to the official squad when announced. We will include the official line ups in the first post of this thread as soon as they're available. Plus all the previews for the clash with the Titans.
Canberra Raiders
Jack Wighton 2. Edrick Lee 3. Jarrod Croker 4. Brenko Lee 5. Jordan Rapana 6. Elliot Whitehead 7. Sam Williams 8. Shannon Boyd 9. Josh Hodgson 10. Frank Paul Nuuausala 11. Josh Papalii 12. Iosia Soliola 13. Shaun Fensom
14. Kurt Baptiste 15. Joseph Tapine 16. Paul Vaughan 17. Jeff Lima
Gold Coast Titans
1. David Mead 2. Anthony Don 3. Josh Hoffman 4. John Olive 5. Nene Macdonald 6. Tyrone Roberts 7. Ashley Taylor 8. David Shillington 9. Nathan Friend 10. Agnatius Paasi 11. Zeb Taia 12. Chris McQueen 13. Greg Bird
14. Luke Douglas 15. Ryan James 16. Leivaha Pulu 17. Daniel Mortimer 18. Eddy Pettybourne
Officials:
Referees: Henry Perenara, Chris Sutton;Sideline Officials: Rohan Best, Dave Ryan;Video Referees: Ben Galea, Jared Maxwell, Luke Patten
Match Hashtags: #NRL #WeareRaiders #BleedGreen #NRLRaidersTitans
The Greenhouse Hashtags: #WearGreen2016 #FromAllAngles
NSW Premiership teams: http://thegh.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php ... 2#p1356562
Holden Cup teams: http://thegh.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php ... 6#p1356566
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We better **** win this one
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I'll make canberrigan's post for him so hopefully we avoid hearing about it another 4000 times this thread.
"I think our team is ****, Boo them. Oh and Wighton to 5/8".
"I think our team is ****, Boo them. Oh and Wighton to 5/8".
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and if you bet on football matches you'd better understandArcher wrote:I'll make canberrigan's post for him so hopefully we avoid hearing about it another 4000 times this thread.
"I think our team is ****, Boo them. Oh and Wighton to 5/8".
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If we can get the **** out of this with a win, we're on track for a really strong season
Not going to be a death sentence if we lose it though... 2.5/4 without Austin-Sezer is acceptable
Sam Williams needs to bounce back here for us. He'll need to be at his best for us to win IMO
Not going to be a death sentence if we lose it though... 2.5/4 without Austin-Sezer is acceptable
Sam Williams needs to bounce back here for us. He'll need to be at his best for us to win IMO
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Hopefully the players are still smarting after they embarrased us last year. I dont think Ricky will let another one go.
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Lenny Leonard wrote:and if you bet on football matches you'd better understandArcher wrote:I'll make canberrigan's post for him so hopefully we avoid hearing about it another 4000 times this thread.
"I think our team is ****, Boo them. Oh and Wighton to 5/8".
You won't ever see me calling for a defibrillator.
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I guess finding someone prepared to resuscitate you is too much of a challenge?Canberrigan wrote:Lenny Leonard wrote:and if you bet on football matches you'd better understandArcher wrote:I'll make canberrigan's post for him so hopefully we avoid hearing about it another 4000 times this thread.
"I think our team is ****, Boo them. Oh and Wighton to 5/8".
You won't ever see me calling for a defibrillator.
Son, we live in a world that has forums, and those forums have to be guarded by Mods. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Nickman? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Lucy, and you curse GE. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that GE’s moderation, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, keeps threads on track and under the appropriately sized, highlighted green headings.
You want moderation because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that forum -- you need me on that forum. We use words like "stay on topic," "use the appropriate forum," "please delete." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very moderation that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you get a green handle and edit a post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think about moderation.
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As I said, I've been a fan for 25yrs and in the 22yrs since they last won a GF they haven't seriously looked like winning one. The way the Raiders play is hardly news to me.T_R wrote:I guess finding someone prepared to resuscitate you is too much of a challenge?Canberrigan wrote:Lenny Leonard wrote:and if you bet on football matches you'd better understandArcher wrote:I'll make canberrigan's post for him so hopefully we avoid hearing about it another 4000 times this thread.
"I think our team is ****, Boo them. Oh and Wighton to 5/8".
You won't ever see me calling for a defibrillator.
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Bed time, champ.
Son, we live in a world that has forums, and those forums have to be guarded by Mods. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Nickman? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Lucy, and you curse GE. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that GE’s moderation, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, keeps threads on track and under the appropriately sized, highlighted green headings.
You want moderation because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that forum -- you need me on that forum. We use words like "stay on topic," "use the appropriate forum," "please delete." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very moderation that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you get a green handle and edit a post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think about moderation.
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Remind us again why you are here?
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Good grief
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Same 17 for me
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Maybe the same 17 but in a different order. I don't think we need to see Whitehead at 5/8 again
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Wont be shocked to see Sezer make an early return here.
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Lenny Leonard wrote:Remind us again why you are here?
Remind me exactly how I have been proven wrong in the last couple of weeks?
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I was more referring to the fact you seem to get little to no enjoyment out of the team winning, or at least not losing games
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If our incumbents don't return I'd absolutely be satisfied with Whitehead at 6 again.Big Jack wrote:Maybe the same 17 but in a different order. I don't think we need to see Whitehead at 5/8 again
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Lenny Leonard wrote:I was more referring to the fact you seem to get little to no enjoyment out of the team winning, or at least not losing games
Well most expected the team to win by 13+. I picked 1-12 so I wasn't death riding them at all. I 'm not the only one who said they needed to lift on their past two performances and they didn't really do that. You can gloss it over if you like but how will they respond if a decent team puts 40 on them?
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Pigman wrote:Wont be shocked to see Sezer make an early return here.
If he's back doing contact this week it's hard to imagine he's to far away.
I'd feel a lot more confident about our chances if he played.
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The Titans generally don't travel well, they've played 2 at home for 2 wins and copped a bit of a hiding in Melbourne
I'd be confident at home we can get over the line
I'd be confident at home we can get over the line
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2016 Rd 4 V Titans: Teams and Previews
Raiders could go from being above Broncos to being below Titans in the space of a week with a loss
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Yeah, I think we'll be right with or without Sezer.
Good to get a point from today's scrap and I feel the boys will have plenty to review come Monday on which they'll improve come Saturday.
Good to get a point from today's scrap and I feel the boys will have plenty to review come Monday on which they'll improve come Saturday.
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Don't listen to the haters mate. You know more than anyone! Look at what else you said this week:Canberrigan wrote:Lenny Leonard wrote:I was more referring to the fact you seem to get little to no enjoyment out of the team winning, or at least not losing games
Well most expected the team to win by 13+. I picked 1-12 so I wasn't death riding them at all. I 'm not the only one who said they needed to lift on their past two performances and they didn't really do that. You can gloss it over if you like but how will they respond if a decent team puts 40 on them?
Roosters getting pumped after we beat them by 1 was a reflection on us being so poor - No mention of the other results this week such as Broncos getting done by panthers after we beat them, let alone what all the other upsets say.... Oh well maybe the next point is better
Wighton should play 5/8 - Past two weeks just about every time he has tried to be involved in the play making rather than running its gone terribly (The pass to the ball boy, kicking it into the car park etc.)... Damn, not that one either
Whitehead was bad in the halves today A large portion of the 2nd half was spent in the forwards once Baptiste came on and Hodgo moved to half, yet he got the equal most try assists in that game (tied with the bloke playing his 200th game there FTR).
Yep, regular Rugby League savant. What's your tips for the rest of the week, I'll run off to the tab and throw some bets on.
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One of the tries set up by Whitehead was just a catch and pass. Agree the cut out to Rapana was a good pass but that should be made in first grade every week. Papalii could throw it. I was more referring to the fact that Croker wasn't ready for first grade. He was woeful last week and low and behold he was named at 6 this week, then was 'injured' before he starts for Mounties. He won't be back for a while. Now some on here would rather sacrifice Croker just so Jack can play his preferred position even though he's making errors under pressure. Wighton put two tries on last week or did you miss those? I saw you chalked up Whitehead's two try assists though.Archer wrote:Don't listen to the haters mate. You know more than anyone! Look at what else you said this week:Canberrigan wrote:Lenny Leonard wrote:I was more referring to the fact you seem to get little to no enjoyment out of the team winning, or at least not losing games
Well most expected the team to win by 13+. I picked 1-12 so I wasn't death riding them at all. I 'm not the only one who said they needed to lift on their past two performances and they didn't really do that. You can gloss it over if you like but how will they respond if a decent team puts 40 on them?
Roosters getting pumped after we beat them by 1 was a reflection on us being so poor - No mention of the other results this week such as Broncos getting done by panthers after we beat them, let alone what all the other upsets say.... Oh well maybe the next point is better
Wighton should play 5/8 - Past two weeks just about every time he has tried to be involved in the play making rather than running its gone terribly (The pass to the ball boy, kicking it into the car park etc.)... Damn, not that one either
Whitehead was bad in the halves today A large portion of the 2nd half was spent in the forwards once Baptiste came on and Hodgo moved to half, yet he got the equal most try assists in that game (tied with the bloke playing his 200th game there FTR).
Yep, regular Rugby League savant. What's your tips for the rest of the week, I'll run off to the tab and throw some bets on.
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Hopefully the boys play somewhere remotely close to their potential this week, whoever gets named.
I thought Whitehead looked OK as a stopgap 6. Tough call on Croker though.
I thought Whitehead looked OK as a stopgap 6. Tough call on Croker though.
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I didn't think you would want me mentioning the try assists playing from FB, but if you wan't I can. Not sure how that makes you look any better for suggesting he shouldn't be there though....Canberrigan wrote: One of the tries set up by Whitehead was just a catch and pass. Agree the cut out to Rapana was a good pass but that should be made in first grade every week. Papalii could throw it. I was more referring to the fact that Croker wasn't ready for first grade. He was woeful last week and low and behold he was named at 6 this week, then was 'injured' before he starts for Mounties. He won't be back for a while. Now some on here would rather sacrifice Croker just so Jack can play his preferred position even though he's making errors under pressure. Wighton put two tries on last week or did you miss those? I saw you chalked up Whitehead's two try assists though.
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As for the Panthers they also lost by two points last week and won by just one today. I have less of an issue with the Panthers game because the Raiders had to deal with injuries on the run. That is not the same as the Roosters getting absolutely smashed 40-0 after losing by 1 the previous week and getting 42 put on them in the first round. Roosters and Knights have been consistently terrible whereas the Panthers loss by 8pts to the Raiders was their biggest margin win or loss. The Titans put 30 on the Knights in round 1 and then Souths put 48 on them last week. Is it that hard to sort out the wheat from the Chaff? I mean if you analyse it closely there's consistent performances there. Good: Titans, Souths, Penrith Crap: Roosters, Knights
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Deal with injuries on the run? You mean like losing Fensom 5 seconds into the game?Canberrigan wrote:One of the tries set up by Whitehead was just a catch and pass. Agree the cut out to Rapana was a good pass but that should be made in first grade every week. Papalii could throw it. I was more referring to the fact that Croker wasn't ready for first grade. He was woeful last week and low and behold he was named at 6 this week, then was 'injured' before he starts for Mounties. He won't be back for a while. Now some on here would rather sacrifice Croker just so Jack can play his preferred position even though he's making errors under pressure. Wighton put two tries on last week or did you miss those? I saw you chalked up Whitehead's two try assists though.Archer wrote:Don't listen to the haters mate. You know more than anyone! Look at what else you said this week:Canberrigan wrote:Lenny Leonard wrote:I was more referring to the fact you seem to get little to no enjoyment out of the team winning, or at least not losing games
Well most expected the team to win by 13+. I picked 1-12 so I wasn't death riding them at all. I 'm not the only one who said they needed to lift on their past two performances and they didn't really do that. You can gloss it over if you like but how will they respond if a decent team puts 40 on them?
Roosters getting pumped after we beat them by 1 was a reflection on us being so poor - No mention of the other results this week such as Broncos getting done by panthers after we beat them, let alone what all the other upsets say.... Oh well maybe the next point is better
Wighton should play 5/8 - Past two weeks just about every time he has tried to be involved in the play making rather than running its gone terribly (The pass to the ball boy, kicking it into the car park etc.)... Damn, not that one either
Whitehead was bad in the halves today A large portion of the 2nd half was spent in the forwards once Baptiste came on and Hodgo moved to half, yet he got the equal most try assists in that game (tied with the bloke playing his 200th game there FTR).
Yep, regular Rugby League savant. What's your tips for the rest of the week, I'll run off to the tab and throw some bets on.
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Archer wrote:I didn't think you would want me mentioning the try assists playing from FB, but if you wan't I can. Not sure how that makes you look any better for suggesting he shouldn't be there though....Canberrigan wrote: One of the tries set up by Whitehead was just a catch and pass. Agree the cut out to Rapana was a good pass but that should be made in first grade every week. Papalii could throw it. I was more referring to the fact that Croker wasn't ready for first grade. He was woeful last week and low and behold he was named at 6 this week, then was 'injured' before he starts for Mounties. He won't be back for a while. Now some on here would rather sacrifice Croker just so Jack can play his preferred position even though he's making errors under pressure. Wighton put two tries on last week or did you miss those? I saw you chalked up Whitehead's two try assists though.
He also threw the pass over the sideline at FB too. Which is sort of the problem Croker added NOTHING in attack. zilch. So Jack was forced to do more than his usual supporting role. If you have weak halves you will see more errors like that. Croker put the Raiders under pressure last week and that's why the Roosters were in the game. As soon as he went off the tide turned. Coincidence?
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Not the same as losing Austin but whatever.Lenny Leonard wrote:Deal with injuries on the run? You mean like losing Fensom 5 seconds into the game?Canberrigan wrote:One of the tries set up by Whitehead was just a catch and pass. Agree the cut out to Rapana was a good pass but that should be made in first grade every week. Papalii could throw it. I was more referring to the fact that Croker wasn't ready for first grade. He was woeful last week and low and behold he was named at 6 this week, then was 'injured' before he starts for Mounties. He won't be back for a while. Now some on here would rather sacrifice Croker just so Jack can play his preferred position even though he's making errors under pressure. Wighton put two tries on last week or did you miss those? I saw you chalked up Whitehead's two try assists though.Archer wrote:Don't listen to the haters mate. You know more than anyone! Look at what else you said this week:Canberrigan wrote:Lenny Leonard wrote:I was more referring to the fact you seem to get little to no enjoyment out of the team winning, or at least not losing games
Well most expected the team to win by 13+. I picked 1-12 so I wasn't death riding them at all. I 'm not the only one who said they needed to lift on their past two performances and they didn't really do that. You can gloss it over if you like but how will they respond if a decent team puts 40 on them?
Roosters getting pumped after we beat them by 1 was a reflection on us being so poor - No mention of the other results this week such as Broncos getting done by panthers after we beat them, let alone what all the other upsets say.... Oh well maybe the next point is better
Wighton should play 5/8 - Past two weeks just about every time he has tried to be involved in the play making rather than running its gone terribly (The pass to the ball boy, kicking it into the car park etc.)... Damn, not that one either
Whitehead was bad in the halves today A large portion of the 2nd half was spent in the forwards once Baptiste came on and Hodgo moved to half, yet he got the equal most try assists in that game (tied with the bloke playing his 200th game there FTR).
Yep, regular Rugby League savant. What's your tips for the rest of the week, I'll run off to the tab and throw some bets on.
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Yet as Lenny pointed out we also had an injury in the Roosters game and you can add a sin bin to that list. You can add Broncos to your list of 'Good' as well if you are going to put Panthers there, oh and where do Eels, Dogs and Tigers sit, or does that muddy the water a little. See the problem is you are so obvious in your agenda, you ignore everything that doesn't suit it regardless of how obvious it is and only select the things that do. Anyway, it's only lunch time over here so I'm heading out. You keep derailing as many threads as you can (I see you've had a crack at the player voting, maybe you could try some of the Non Raider related threads as well).Canberrigan wrote:As for the Panthers they also lost by two points last week and won by just one today. I have less of an issue with the Panthers game because the Raiders had to deal with injuries on the run. That is not the same as the Roosters getting absolutely smashed 40-0 after losing by 1 the previous week and getting 42 put on them in the first round. Roosters and Knights have been consistently terrible whereas the Panthers loss by 8pts to the Raiders was their biggest margin win or loss. The Titans put 30 on the Knights in round 1 and then Souths put 48 on them last week. Is it that hard to sort out the wheat from the Chaff? I mean if you analyse it closely there's consistent performances there. Good: Titans, Souths, Penrith Crap: Roosters, Knights
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This is exactly the point I just made. Here you try to claim that Wighton being forced to do some play making and failing is a demonstration of why Wighton should play in the halves.....Canberrigan wrote: He also threw the pass over the sideline at FB too. Which is sort of the problem Croker added NOTHING in attack. zilch. So Jack was forced to do more than his usual supporting role. If you have weak halves you will see more errors like that. Croker put the Raiders under pressure last week and that's why the Roosters were in the game. As soon as he went off the tide turned. Coincidence?
Keep on Keeping on mate. I'm out