Billy Walker wrote: ↑April 24, 2024, 3:53 pm
Finchy wrote: ↑April 24, 2024, 11:13 am
Billy Walker wrote: ↑April 24, 2024, 11:08 am
Finchy wrote: ↑April 24, 2024, 10:17 am
Billy Walker wrote: ↑April 24, 2024, 7:29 am
What about a 22 year old guy with a career ahead of him on a stupidly high 4 year deal. Manly successfully negotiate a joint termination where the player picks up $1m but only $250k appears on the cap. Guess some clubs are just lucky….
‘Worst contract ever negotiated’: Crazy details of Manly’s Schuster deal:
https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/worst ... 24a73f5b8a
No, the entire $1m appears on the cap. They can just split it over 4 years to $250k each year. Still a horrendous deal. Losing $1m of cap space for literally zero return. Plus, Schuster didn’t just walk away from the full contract amount he would be owed, Manly had grounds to terminate his contract and pay him nothing, but they threw him a bone.
The silver lining is that the Sea Eagles will have an extra $550,000 to spend in each of the next three years.
That’s better than paying $800k a year for the kid to run around in NSW Cup.
Manly cuts its loses, Schuster is happy. That’s how these things are supposed to work.
So we should sack CHN without lawful cause, but throw him a bone so we have a portion of his wages back in our salary cap. Can’t see any issues with that plan at all!
A negotiated outcome that both parties are happy with isn’t an illegal sacking. CHN needs to be paid and needs to be looked after. That has never been in question. The issue is we can be running with a 29 man roster and upwards of $600k down on our cap for this year and next. Other clubs find ways to settle these matters we are in limbo.
Would you be happy to give CHN the entire length of his current contract to explore all medical options to return?
You're comparing very different scenarios though.
Schuster was happy to negotiate getting at least a portion of his contract paid rather than none of it, because he knew Manly could simply sack him for (alleged) breach of contract. Manly were willing to negotiate and pay him a portion of his contract rather than sack him and give him nothing, because it would likely drag out in the courts costing them more money, damage their reputation when it came to signing or extending other players, and they also had concerns for his welfare and didn't want to just cut him off.
Why would CHN in his right mind negotiate with the club to take a far lesser sum than he is entitled to, just because the club wants his money back in the cap? If he could simply sit at home and earn $600k, why would he take an offer to drop his wage down to $200k just so the club has an extra $400k to spend?
On your last point, no I wouldn't be happy about him taking the entire length of his contract to explore all medical options, but my opinion doesn't matter. He's entitled to take as long as he wants and explore as many options as he wants.
I'd rather he get 3 independent medical recommendations, and if they all say he can't come back, take a medical retirement - he still gets paid, the money doesn't come out off our cap. Or, he is allowed to return, and we get a return on investment through him playing again.
Either way, I don't think we have a leg to stand on to "negotiate" our way out of anything here. He hasn't breached his contract. Schuster (allegedly) did.
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