2023 Rd 18 v Titans: Teams and Previews *Teams p1*

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Who will win?

Raiders 13+
2
20%
Raiders 1-12
4
40%
Draw
0
No votes
Titans 1-12
1
10%
Titans 13+
3
30%
 
Total votes: 10

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2023 Rd 18 v Titans: Teams and Previews

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Canberra Raiders v Gold Coast Titans
Saturday 1 July, 3:00pm
Canberra Stadium
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TV coverage: Fox League Channel 502, Kayo
Radio: ABC, Mix 106.3, 2CC

The Canberra Raiders are back at home in Round 18... and host the Gold Coast Titans. Who would you like to see line up in green in this match? Name your own team, and then see how close you were when the official teams are named on the Tuesday before the match. We will have the official squads in the first post of this thread, once they are announced.

OFFICIAL SQUADS

Canberra Raiders

1. Sebastian Kris
2. Albert Hopoate
3. Jarrod Croker (c)
4. Matt Timoko
5. Jordan Rapana
6. Jack Wighton
7. Jamal Fogarty
8. Pasami Saulo
9. Zac Woolford
10. Joe Tapine
11. Hudson Young
12. Elliott Whitehead (c)
13. Corey Horsburgh

14. Tom Starling
15. Emre Guler
16. Nick Cotric
17. Ata Mariota

18. Brad Schneider
19. Danny Levi
20. Matt Frawley
21. Xavier Savage
22. Peter Hola

Injury/Suspension
Josh Papalii, Hamstring (Round 21)
Adrian Trevilyan, Shoulder/ACL (Round 21)
Harley Smith-Shields, Finger (Round 21-22)
Corey Harawira-Naera, Seizure (Indefinite)



Gold Coast Titans

1. AJ Brimson
2. Alofiana Khan-Pereira
3. Brian Kelly
4. Aaron Schoupp
5. Phillip Sami
6. Kieran Foran
7. Tanah Boyd
8. Moeaki Fotuaika
9. Sam Verrills
10. Tino Fa'asuamaleaui
11. David Fifita
12. Joe Stimson
13. Isaac Liu

14. Jayden Campbell
15. Erin Clark
16. Jaimin Jolliffe
17. Chris Randall

18. Iszac Fa'asumaleaui
19. Jojo Fifita
20. Kruise Leeming
21. Klese Haas
22. Jacob Alick

Injury/Suspension
Beau Fermor, ACL (Season)

Officials

Referee: Todd Smith
Touch judges: Wyatt Raymond, Cameron Paddy
Video referee: Kasey Badger

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Coach now des hasler, apparently
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Canberra Milk wrote:Coach now des hasler, apparently
brett white interim?

edit: Hasler straight in

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Premiership-winning coach Des Hasler will join the Gold Coast Titans as head coach for the 2024 season and beyond. Hasler brings significant experience having coached 458 NRL games, reaching five grand finals and winning two premierships.



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Read that Jim Lenihan is going to be care taker coach. Hasler to join next year.
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Same Team that played the Roosters please Sticky.

Copy and Paste.


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Brew wrote:Same Team that played the Roosters please Sticky.

Copy and Paste.


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You see, when most of us do that bit we say “beat”, but what’s interesting is how you never expect this team to win, despite your fervent backing of the coach.

It’s truly bizarre. It’s almost like you value awkward photos with the coach over any form of onfield success.
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Same team that humbled the Roosters
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The Nickman wrote: June 22, 2023, 9:20 pm
Brew wrote:Same Team that played the Roosters please Sticky.

Copy and Paste.


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You see, when most of us do that bit we say “beat”, but what’s interesting is how you never expect this team to win, despite your fervent backing of the coach.

It’s truly bizarre. It’s almost like you value awkward photos with the coach over any form of onfield success.
Hey they aren’t awkward. He checked every single one and Rocky was smiling in all of them!
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Yeah not feeling a win this Sunday. Id be more confident if the Roosters were in form.

Anyway, let’s hope so


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But you see Nickman these threads are usually started after the last game so people have the benefit of knowing the result.


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Same team that got flogged by the roosters
Pick and stick Rick
Pick.
And.
Stick.
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Brew wrote: June 23, 2023, 5:36 pm But you see Nickman these threads are usually started after the last game so people have the benefit of knowing the result.


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Hahaha no they're not, do you even Greenhouse, bro?
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The Nickman wrote:
Brew wrote: June 23, 2023, 5:36 pm But you see Nickman these threads are usually started after the last game so people have the benefit of knowing the result.


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Hahaha no they're not, do you even Greenhouse, bro?
No I don’t, not much these days. Too much Ricky hate on here makes old Brew sad.


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Brew wrote: June 24, 2023, 9:03 pm
The Nickman wrote:
Brew wrote: June 23, 2023, 5:36 pm But you see Nickman these threads are usually started after the last game so people have the benefit of knowing the result.


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Hahaha no they're not, do you even Greenhouse, bro?
No I don’t, not much these days. Too much Ricky hate on here makes old Brew sad.
How does new Brew feel about it though?
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Brew wrote: June 24, 2023, 9:03 pm
The Nickman wrote:
Brew wrote: June 23, 2023, 5:36 pm But you see Nickman these threads are usually started after the last game so people have the benefit of knowing the result.


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Hahaha no they're not, do you even Greenhouse, bro?
No I don’t, not much these days. Too much Ricky hate on here makes old Brew sad.


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Much better off just WE BLEED GREENING HOME OF THE RAIDERS DRUMMER, right Brew?
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**** if I know how we are 5th but I'll take that in the face.
Not convincing, I've supported this team for long enough to know better..
Wins are good, I'd love for us to whack 40 on the board for a change like the campo days
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I wouldn’t mind seeing Savage in for Hoppa, but I doubt we’ll see that now, Hoppa had another strong game
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Croker could be out for 11 days
If so I think it’s fairly obvious

1. Savage
3. Kris
4. Timoko

Puru in for starling
Ata for papa
Mooney in for whitehead or something please.

What will happen
1.kris
3.HSS

Whitehead in
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A week of face shoving, and another big spanking at home against a middling Titans team who did their homework, probably.
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This is going to be ugly. The Titans score a lot of points but generally can’t defend. The last few games they’ve defended really well though.

On the flip side we can’t score many points and can’t defend. Sets us up for a 34-18 type loss
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Greenev wrote: June 25, 2023, 8:24 pm Croker could be out for 11 days
If so I think it’s fairly obvious

1. Savage
3. Kris
4. Timoko

Puru in for starling
Ata for papa
Mooney in for whitehead or something please.

What will happen
1.kris
3.HSS

Whitehead in
We all know savage will not be picked

Prefer Morkos be given a go instead of HSS if toots is out
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Whitehead should be tapped on the shoulder this week and retire-he sucks now
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Brett White Vs Ricky Stuart

stop kidding yourselves, will be same team minus papa, in come Ata thats it
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Interesting.

I'd watch that game and still think we need a new #1. No improvement in any of the areas he lacks in- for 2 months now. Same faults in defence (misses every one on one, not great vs kicks) and no attack whatsoever... It's your most important attacking position and we have poor attack... Not one iota of improvement in this position shown in 2 months. Still brave. Still straight. Still not a FB and every stat bears it out.
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By all reports and watching the highlights Levi played pretty well in NSW cup. I’d guess he will come in, Ricky would’ve decided Starling was gone when Jack gave him a serve.
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BadnMean wrote:Interesting.

I'd watch that game and still think we need a new #1. No improvement in any of the areas he lacks in- for 2 months now. Same faults in defence (misses every one on one, not great vs kicks) and no attack whatsoever... It's your most important attacking position and we have poor attack... Not one iota of improvement in this position shown in 2 months. Still brave. Still straight. Still not a FB and every stat bears it out.
I’d 100% be picking Savage, and I think Kris has serious defensive issues. But I thought that was by far his best attacking game yet.

Recovered the drop out. Tapped back for the try off the bomb. Supported a line break off the ruck.

But one swallow doesn’t make a summer, if he’s fullback he’s got to be doing that stuff consistently, and I trust Savage to be that more regular threat.
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Ricky said croker was only a precautionary hia
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gangrenous wrote: June 25, 2023, 9:19 pm
BadnMean wrote:Interesting.

I'd watch that game and still think we need a new #1. No improvement in any of the areas he lacks in- for 2 months now. Same faults in defence (misses every one on one, not great vs kicks) and no attack whatsoever... It's your most important attacking position and we have poor attack... Not one iota of improvement in this position shown in 2 months. Still brave. Still straight. Still not a FB and every stat bears it out.
I’d 100% be picking Savage, and I think Kris has serious defensive issues. But I thought that was by far his best attacking game yet.

Recovered the drop out. Tapped back for the try off the bomb. Supported a line break off the ruck.

But one swallow doesn’t make a summer, if he’s fullback he’s got to be doing that stuff consistently, and I trust Savage to be that more regular threat.
All effort plays.

Kris has no problem with effort. He's trying his guts out.Which is why it is hard to speak against him.

He just has no evasion and very very limited ability to pass, step, run the footy in space etc etc. I'd argue that even his support play given our vast array of offloaders lacks instinct and positional play/running threat as well.

Cold hard facts/stats put him [i]at the very bottom[/i] of damn near every. single. attacking. and. defensive. stat... And it's no longer a small sample. It's 4 bloody months. is he any better?

He's just not a FB no matter hard he tries. It's FOUR MONTHS into the season. There has been xero trend in improvement. Can we now accept he is just not getting better, not a FB, great bloke but **** NOT A SPINE PLAYER.
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With the logjam in the eight and some byes in close-ish proximity this is shaping up as one of them 8 point games.
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gangrenous wrote: June 25, 2023, 10:23 pm With the logjam in the eight and some byes in close-ish proximity this is shaping up as one of them 8 point games.
It’s a 12 point game, due to the fact we just came off a bye and won tonight.
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1. Kris
2. Hoppa
3. Croker (Savage if out)
4. Timoko
5. Rapana
6. Wighton
7. Fogarty
8. Saulo
9. Woolford
10. Tapine
11. Young
12. Whitehead
13. Horse
14. Starling
15. Guler
16. Cotric
17. Mariota
18. Frawley

That’s my predicted side not the side I’d pick. I’d have Puru on the bench for Starling, playing the same role starling did with 30 in the middle and 20 at 9. I’d also have a more versatile player in Cotric’s place. If we could get Sasagi mid season he’d be the one or a CHN. Id also consider starting Mariota for Saulo.
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With Papa unlikely to play I reckon Guler will start with Saulo and Mariota on the bench. Puru will be first game back from injury so I don't see him debuting in FG this week. Interesting that Woolf got 61 minutes this week and defended well. Sticky will not change a winning side so other than Papa I don't see any other changes. If JC's HIA was only precautionary then I don't see him missing this week.

Panthers play Storm next week so should we beat the Titans we will draw level with one of them on the ladder. Should Souths beat the Warriors then we are a Top 4 side by the end of the next round.
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thevikingclap on ig wrote: June 25, 2023, 11:05 pm 1. Kris
2. Hoppa
3. Croker (Savage if out)
4. Timoko
5. Rapana
6. Wighton
7. Fogarty
8. Saulo
9. Woolford
10. Tapine
11. Young
12. Whitehead
13. Horse
14. Starling
15. Guler
16. Cotric
17. Mariota
18. Frawley

That’s my predicted side not the side I’d pick. I’d have Puru on the bench for Starling, playing the same role starling did with 30 in the middle and 20 at 9. I’d also have a more versatile player in Cotric’s place. If we could get Sasagi mid season he’d be the one or a CHN. Id also consider starting Mariota for Saulo.
Not Savage. Cotric or Smith-Shields in the centres if Croker doesn't play. Leave starling where he is.
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Yeah Papalii is probably going to miss a few games... he went off immediately after suffering the injury and was almost immediately ruled out... just following that track, it feels like anything less than 2-4 week injury would be a surprise

Guler will likely start, though maybe Saulo if they feel they need Guler to "lead" the 2nd unit middles.
Ata Mariota seems to have the inside track on being the next middle up on the bench, but if this is a month or longer injury, Mooney is due back by in that time, and after a week or two, id like to get him some legitimate minutes in FG. Id seriously consider having Ata and Mooney alternate each week so both are getting the development time

I think without Papalii it's going to be important to do what we did last night too, which is find a way to get Hors a little breather, he's playing really well this year but i think we're over extending him. I'd REALLY love to get Puru in the team instead of the outside back to help spell him but that's i think unlikely unfortunately
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