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NoMan

I agree with the sentiment, but the Roosters weren't in the hunt when the Raiders were chasing him (as far as we know). The Raiders lost out to the Titans twice and had given up by the third time. I doubt it had anything to do with Ricky though, given Fifita just turned down the best club side in NR...

NoMan

10 years is a long time, you take it back that far and the Raiders have signed Hodgo, Whitehead, CNK, Smithies, Williams, Sezer, Fog, Tapine, Cotric, BJ, Paulo, Raps in that time, plus a heap of decent squad players like Havilli and Lui. I'd only really swap the Roosters for the Raiders list given w...

NoMan

Most of the Dogs and Wests signings don't want to leave Western Sydney and they basically have used Penrith as a feeder club for the better signings. There just seems to be less and less established players willing to move away from friends and family, which makes it a tough market for regional club...

NoMan

I don’t know if criticism is over the top, but most of it is just unfounded.

I will say Blaize did much look better at fullback but he hasn’t shown much in NSW cup and playing half and center in the NRL. He is very rocks and diamonds when I’ve watched him.

NoMan

Roosters will make enquiries for Walsh before anyone else. He hasn't signed his extension yet.

NoMan

Haha I’m cynical like Colk. It’s probably not a healthy mindset or attitude to have, but I guess the difference is thinking all the juniors are overrated and then being pleasantly surprised when a couple prove you wrong feels better than thinking all the juniors are going to be rep quality elite pl...

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Riaan wrote: ↑May 10, 2024, 6:39 pm Does anyone actually believe that though???

The life after footy bit? They've done it for years already.

Imagine what billionaires can offer Fifita off the record compared to what Don and Ricky can do.

NoMan

dubby wrote: ↑May 10, 2024, 5:38 pm Did Fifita just lower the value of the back rower?

For the Roosters, yeah.

NoMan

They aren't signing a 27 year old with 5 NRL games over the top of Chevy. It's him or bust.

NoMan

There's a few of the Colts lining up for the NSWRL City v Country Under 17s and 18s games Saturday week at 12.35pm. It's televised on NSWRL TV.

NSWRL Country and City squads announced for 2024: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2024/05 ... -for-2024/

NoMan

He has been fine defensively but really Trev isn’t playing enough minutes to know how he is going.

NoMan

Yeah it works in the US because there’s no external competition for players. The NBA even had to change the rules to force players to effectively go to college or a pro-league for a year because more and more skipped it. AFL and NRL are in the same boat. You might lose the occasional Suaalii to Unio...

NoMan

In the minds of young footballers, yeah.

Maybe less so for Townsville but they are almost as bad at recruiting lately.

NoMan

I’d like to have Carbone’s job - do sfa yet still get paid Carbone's job is more pathways recruitment. Ricky decides who to chase for first grade. Apologies to Joel. It wouldn’t surprise me that our recruitment consists of waiting for emails from agents as to who’s off contract. It’s been rubbish t...

NoMan

Hong Kong Raider wrote: ↑May 9, 2024, 9:49 pm I’d like to have Carbone’s job - do sfa yet still get paid

Carbone's job is more pathways recruitment. Ricky decides who to chase for first grade.

NoMan

I've watched Chan Kum Tong a few times in the lower grades now and I don't think he fixes the problem.

Surely there is a pommy hooker that's going well enough to justify bringing them over.

NoMan

Invigorating discussion. We are talking about Hail Marys here, pure and simple Somewhat, in that you don't really properly know until they're older and into grade. But you sign and invest based on *something*. There seems to be a train of thought here, unless I'm misreading it, that you don't know ...

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Botman wrote: ↑May 9, 2024, 5:41 pm Really interested to see how he goes at a club like that and a coach like Robinson

I’m sure he will go ok once they stack the team with 4 more star players. Robinson will win another comp and continue to be the human asterisk of coaches.

NoMan

Lets face it, the last thing the NRL wants is Canberra or the Titans to be winning comps regularly.

NoMan

Just the beginning of the Roosters arduous 6 month rebuild I’d say.

NoMan

Consider the clubs own expectations on him for a second. I think they are way over what fans on here express.

NoMan

I think most people see it as a straight swap for JFH and respect the Panthers approach to the game enough that its not a bad look at all. Roosters would be much worse given their parasitic history and nature. Worst case some people make Sombrero jokes though, nobody cares enough for the NRL to do a...

NoMan

Yep, Gus is still a EDIT.

NoMan

Maybe they got a lot of hype on here but that bunch were hardly near the clubs highest rated juniors outside of perhaps Cornish. Carney, Dugan, Milford, Weyman and Jack had far more hype as they came through and were stars in under 20s and dominating junior reps. All of them had successful careers e...

NoMan

Penrith are angling for development fees to be paid by the NRL when a junior player goes elsewhere. That’s basically a first step to centralisation already.

NoMan

Why would development be centralised? If they have priority for a couple of players each year then you are offering clubs 4 years + matching rights guaranteed for the best players they develop. That’s a massive advantage over the current system. The fact is there are massive imbalances at junior lev...

NoMan

I've been thinking a bit about a draft today. An external draft could work, but only if development is funded centrally. You can still have club academies like they do in the AFL, and methods for the club to access their must keeps. I agree it wouldn't work under the current development funding mod...

NoMan

External draft would help and most likely would make it through the courts. Internal draft won't ever get over the line again. Trading would be great but no chance the players allow it, they reckon you need an entire offseason to relocate. Contract restrictions like max contracts would help but the ...

NoMan

Under normal circumstances a club losing half their roster wouldn't be in a premiership window. The Roosters probably increase their chances when they do though. The comp is very cooked in a lot of ways.

NoMan

Penrith wont offer more than 850k. That seems to be where they tap put for anyone not Cleary.

The NRL won’t do anything, he can win a comp there and that amounts close enough. His partner is from the area as well.

I’ll be amazed if the NRL ever enforce that market rate rule again tbh.

NoMan

It will be good to be able to see them play at last.

NoMan

Seems a break with their recent strategy. I could see it going wrong for them. I mean they coped fine without Kikau, you could even argue they got better.

NoMan

Apparently it was mentioned on ch9 that David Fifita’s visiting the Panthers and meeting Cleary next week.

NoMan

With the dreaded bye week coming up and Moses back I reckon it gets done this week.

NoMan

I'm not super confident as a lot of the rest of you. Not that he wouldn't want to stay but they have so many middles that are a similar type already on contract. Given a couple of the losses I'm not sure they will match the money for him over trying to bring in some different types of players. Depen...

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