Coronavirus

[gerg]

My wife has wanted to go back to Korea for a while now, but we got hit last week with a 7k bill for our car. I think we'll go camping instead

[zim]

Aren't those hospitality vouchers on the way? Korean BBQ.

[T_R]

My wife has wanted to go back to Korea for a while now, but we got hit last week with a 7k bill for our car. I think we'll go camping instead

The minute borders open, I'm jumping a plane to Seoul.

[RedRaider]

Australia wide stats total showing all age groups 65 and above now double vaccinated at 80% or better.
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default ... r-2021.pdf

[zim]

My wife has wanted to go back to Korea for a while now, but we got hit last week with a 7k bill for our car. I think we'll go camping instead

The minute borders open, I'm jumping a plane to Seoul.

Bring me back something nice.

[-PJ-]

Hey all.

What’s the rules on masks outside ?

Yes/No.

For example..Can I walk from my car to the shops without a mask ? Then of course I put my mask on before entering. Then when leaving the shops can I remove my mask and return to my car ?

* double jabbed and keeping my required distance at all times.

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Bit confusing Pj, Im just keeping a couple of pairs of old undies in the car and if i see heaps of masked bandits I just tie em round me melon.

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[-PJ-]

Bit confusing Pj, Im just keeping a couple of pairs of old undies in the car and if i see heaps of masked bandits I just tie em round me melon.

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I’ll start doin that..

[FuiFui BradBrad]

Hey all.

What’s the rules on masks outside ?

Yes/No.

For example..Can I walk from my car to the shops without a mask ? Then of course I put my mask on before entering. Then when leaving the shops can I remove my mask and return to my car ?

* double jabbed and keeping my required distance at all times.

I think Sooshi Mango summed it up perfectly

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CKD0oI5H9Eb/

**Edit** Have I done something wrong with the media code?!

[-PJ-]

Hey all.

What’s the rules on masks outside ?

Yes/No.

For example..Can I walk from my car to the shops without a mask ? Then of course I put my mask on before entering. Then when leaving the shops can I remove my mask and return to my car ?

* double jabbed and keeping my required distance at all times.

I think Sooshi Mango summed it up perfectly

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CKD0oI5H9Eb/

**Edit** Have I done something wrong with the media code?!

I wee’d a little Fui…

[FuiFui BradBrad]

Their explanation of the Roadmap was on point also

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CUCMp7_gemA/

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Pretty much sums it up.

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[RedRaider]

Of the 18 age group categories from age 12 to 95+ Australia wide, 9 are now double vaxxed at 80% or more. See page 6 in the link.
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default ... 2021_0.pdf

[greeneyed]

Canberra records 10 new cases of COVID-19, hits 90% vaccination for those aged 12+: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14264

[Coastalraider]

Bloody good job Canberra. Well done.

I was talking to my father who lives down there yesterday about the anomaly of act residents being able to travel to some parts of nsw and shop inside stores while act stores are click and collect. He mentioned that it had/would soon be opening up, and there would be no need fo vax passports because ‘Canberra had done such a good job’ they didn’t need it.

When I mentioned that on November 1 if the act still weren’t using passports in stores, all of the nsw unvaccinated population would be able to enter the act and start shopping unrestricted while still being unable to in nsw he was a little shocked..

[RedRaider]

Great vax effort by ACT. The news from Victoria is grim with sadly 25 people reported as dying from Covid today and more than 1700 new cases reported.
https://www.google.com/search?q=victori ... e&ie=UTF-8

[Schifty]

https://vaccineclock.tugzrida.xyz/act/

ACT projected to hit 80% if 16+ in 52 days for 2nd dose.

Back in August this person predicted ACT to hit 80% double dosed by October 13.

We did it October 18. That is freakishly close considering how optimistic it seemed at the time . Also ACT was reporting 12 and over and these predictions were 16+

Clearly this person has a time machine.

[RedRaider]

Australia's vax rollout continues with 11 of the 18 age groups 12 and above are now double vax at 80% or above. See page 6 of the link below. In the total of Age groups above the age of 30, now 70% and above are double vax.
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default ... r-2021.pdf

[RedRaider]

Australia as a whole now 80% double vaccinated for those over the age of 16. Still some way to go in some States. For their people's sakes I hope the 80% level is reached as soon as possible. More than 50% showing as double vaxxed Australia wide in the 12-15 age group.
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default ... r-2021.pdf

[Roger Kenworthy]

My vote for dealing with antivaxxers is to raise income tax by a couple of percentage points across the board to deal with hospitalisation and health services fees. I don't see any of these protesters ever acknowledging the burden they're putting on the rest of society - it would be great to make it black and white.

[Akyle1994]

My vote for dealing with antivaxxers is to raise income tax by a couple of percentage points across the board to deal with hospitalisation and health services fees. I don't see any of these protesters ever acknowledging the burden they're putting on the rest of society - it would be great to make it black and white.

Second that

[papabear]

My vote for dealing with antivaxxers is to raise income tax by a couple of percentage points across the board to deal with hospitalisation and health services fees. I don't see any of these protesters ever acknowledging the burden they're putting on the rest of society - it would be great to make it black and white.

I dont think its fair to raise it on the vaccinated though.

More like have an extra 2 percent unvaccinated medicare levy on the unvaccinated.

Additionally, I would look at centrelink student / pension / family tax benefit / jobseeker - If you are not vaxxed just turn that off.

[Roger Kenworthy]

My vote for dealing with antivaxxers is to raise income tax by a couple of percentage points across the board to deal with hospitalisation and health services fees. I don't see any of these protesters ever acknowledging the burden they're putting on the rest of society - it would be great to make it black and white.

I dont think its fair to raise it on the vaccinated though.

More like have an extra 2 percent unvaccinated medicare levy on the unvaccinated.

Additionally, I would look at centrelink student / pension / family tax benefit / jobseeker - If you are not vaxxed just turn that off.

It's a societal problem. If you chuck it all on the unvaxxed then they just become an underclass and their skewed world views will spread. Raising income tax could be seen as further villainising them but IMO it would be saying we're not going to take money from wider health, education and road safety to pay for your decision. I think you'd see the percentages head upwards and then you could do away with the tax is vaccination hits 95%+ or cases decline.

GST is another option but that's essentially already a poor persons tax so I see that leading to the same outcomes as targeted antivax taxation.

I don't believe in turning off benefits as you're then essentially hammering children for their parents ignorance.

[papabear]

I am going to push back on the main beneficiaries of welfare being children.

In the main welfare benefits those who the money is paid, and the goods/services purchased by those funds.

Children are neither paid the money nor are the supplier of goods/services to the recipients.

The main costs of children are:-
- education
- food
- clothes
- activities
- space

For people reliant on welfare - childcare is almost free.

Food - in our country fortunately food remains cheap and there are always places that will keep kids fed. I would find it difficult to believe that turning off welfare to an anti vaxxer is going to see them starve their kids.

Clothes - well you have an argument here that some kids might not be in there new target range as quick as they would ordinarily be..

activities - maybe kids get taken out of the occasional sport or dance class, but I still dont see it happening en masse, most anti vaxxers would love their childrens well being more then they love being anti vaxx.

space - well presumably you are still going to have the same space as before...

I agree, that such a move could see an under class being created, but in reality people are moving up and down classes all the time in our great country based on the choices you make, hard work, luck and family wealth. If you make the choice to join this underclass then that is on you, but I do not want one cent of my monies supporting those who cant support the common good.

[Mickey_Raider]

My vote for dealing with antivaxxers is to raise income tax by a couple of percentage points across the board to deal with hospitalisation and health services fees. I don't see any of these protesters ever acknowledging the burden they're putting on the rest of society - it would be great to make it black and white.

Second that

No thanks.

If you're proposing an "Unvaxxed Tax" as a means to shape or disincentive certain undesirable behaviours, whilst I don't agree with that policy proposal, that is one thing.

But if you need to increase funding for the hospital system to increase capacity, the government can do that without increasing taxes to "fund" the increase.

[Roger Kenworthy]

My vote for dealing with antivaxxers is to raise income tax by a couple of percentage points across the board to deal with hospitalisation and health services fees. I don't see any of these protesters ever acknowledging the burden they're putting on the rest of society - it would be great to make it black and white.

Second that

No thanks.

If you're proposing an "Unvaxxed Tax" as a means to shape or disincentive certain undesirable behaviours, whilst I don't agree with that policy proposal, that is one thing.

But if you need to increase funding for the hospital system to increase capacity, the government can do that without increasing taxes to "fund" the increase.

Where's the money coming from? Transparency about what is being defunded would also be great.

[Timbo]

I just can’t fathom how many people there are out there who are willing to throw away an amazing, well-paying job that they’ve worked their entire life for over absolute pseudoscience nonsense.

[Raiders666]

I just can’t fathom how many people there are out there who are willing to throw away an amazing, well-paying job that they’ve worked their entire life for over absolute pseudoscience nonsense.

There is no point having this discussion as GE just deletes anything that goes against the narrative lol

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So we still have unvaxxed gronks wasting cap space at the Canberra Raiders.

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[papabear]

I just can’t fathom how many people there are out there who are willing to throw away an amazing, well-paying job that they’ve worked their entire life for over absolute pseudoscience nonsense.

There is no point having this discussion as GE just deletes anything that goes against the narrative lol

we are all ears.

[Raiders666]

I just can’t fathom how many people there are out there who are willing to throw away an amazing, well-paying job that they’ve worked their entire life for over absolute pseudoscience nonsense.

There is no point having this discussion as GE just deletes anything that goes against the narrative lol

we are all ears.

Haha I'm not getting drawn into this.. I'm double vaxxed but can fully understand someone being hesitant about getting it themselves.

[-TW-]

Tbh I've stopped caring, I was very pro vax and pro AZ but now I'm meh

You don't want to get vaxxed, that's your issue, just don't complain.

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[Raiders666]

Tbh I've stopped caring, I was very pro vax and pro AZ but now I'm meh

You don't want to get vaxxed, that's your issue, just don't complain.

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Pretty much...The mob mentality isn't working. You are better off educating rather than bullying people

[zim]

Err. The time for education is past. 7.36 billion doses world wide. If you can't figure it out by now you're not someone that is going to change your mind based on being educated further. From what I've seen the experience of you or someone close to you is going to be the only thing that shifts it, or work mandates.
Heading towards 94% fully vaccinated in NSW I'm also far less concerned that the hold outs are going to be an issue to me personally.

[Off]

Id start rounding the ***** up and experimenting with different strains on them and non endorsed experimental drugs.

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