The Politics Thread 2021

gangrenous · Post by **gangrenous** » January 16, 2021, 7:04 am

Coastalraider wrote: Nothing wrong with your stats, but I would add that 140odd million is a fair sample size to work out the average of the nations biases. Just because only 2/3rds voted doesn’t mean the remaining balance are all sensible democrats wishing for peace.

Not quite. You have a skew due to self selection. If they’re that passionate they’re probably more likely to vote (unless they’re so sold on the corruptness of the election they don’t even vote. Or possibly a lot of them are intellectually incapable of numbering boxes...).

Extrapolating out your results there are no children in the US.

Coastalraider · Post by **Coastalraider** » January 16, 2021, 9:58 am

That was 2/3rds of legal age voters voted this time, the most in history. I didn’t include children.

gangrenous · Post by **gangrenous** » January 16, 2021, 12:27 pm

That wasn’t my point.

The point was if your sample is not representative you should take care when extrapolating.

The Nickman · Post by **The Nickman** » January 16, 2021, 8:09 pm

Tomorrow is where it should all start to kick off again, lads. Get an early night, could be an interesting day leading into a huge week!

Dr Zaius · Post by **Dr Zaius** » January 16, 2021, 8:17 pm

The Nickman wrote:Tomorrow is where it should all start to kick off again, lads. Get an early night, could be an interesting day leading into a huge week!

Saturday or Sunday in the US?

The Nickman · Post by **The Nickman** » January 16, 2021, 8:45 pm

Dr Zaius wrote:
The Nickman wrote:Tomorrow is where it should all start to kick off again, lads. Get an early night, could be an interesting day leading into a huge week!
Saturday or Sunday in the US?

Saturday the 16th is when it’s all meant to start kicking off

Sterlk · Post by **Sterlk** » January 16, 2021, 8:47 pm

The NRA is now financially bankrupt.

Dr Zaius · Post by **Dr Zaius** » January 16, 2021, 9:17 pm

Olympus has fallen is on tele

Someone at Channel 10 has a sense of humour

Dr Zaius · Post by **Dr Zaius** » January 17, 2021, 6:24 am

Is the US burning yet?

the bone · Post by **the bone** » January 17, 2021, 8:37 am

What are you expecting to happen today? The inauguration isn’t until Wednesday 20th Jan.

gangrenous · Post by **gangrenous** » January 17, 2021, 8:59 am

The talk was of protests from 16th onwards.

the bone · Post by **the bone** » January 17, 2021, 9:05 am

Well doesn’t look like anything has gotten out of hand today.

gangrenous · Post by **gangrenous** » January 17, 2021, 9:17 am

No, probably means there won’t be anything until the 20th.

I think given they’re banning crowds, there should be ramped up law enforcement, and the most problematic will have already been having tea with the FBI my money would be on not a lot happening that’s beyond some clusters of people holding illiterate signs. But we’ll see.

the bone · Post by **the bone** » January 17, 2021, 9:28 am

There will be 25,000 national guard in DC for the inauguration, so I wouldn’t expect much trouble there. There’ll probably be some small pockets of trouble elsewhere.

The Nickman · Post by **The Nickman** » January 17, 2021, 9:49 am

gangrenous wrote:No, probably means there won’t be anything until the 20th.

I think given they’re banning crowds, there should be ramped up law enforcement, and the most problematic will have already been having tea with the FBI my money would be on not a lot happening that’s beyond some clusters of people holding illiterate signs. But we’ll see.

Yeah, I’m leaning towards that myself too now, the closer we get to Inauguration Day.

The extremists who were involved in Jan 6 might be emboldened, but they won’t find any day in the next five anywhere near as easy now that security is ramped up to higher than Baghdad.

Seiffert82 · Post by **Seiffert82** » January 17, 2021, 3:03 pm

The majority of on-ground protagonists of this protest have probably been arrested.

What is left is just a bunch of stupid white gun -totin' hillbillies, trying to figure out what they can do now without the leadership of a President that has their back (particularly now that the FBI is serious about quashing this).

What is their motivation now? Their campaign is not really to save Trump per se (that horse has bolted), it's for the ideal of going back to the good ol days of white middle-America of the 1960s. It's not an actual thing...it's a concept.

Despite there being millions of people pining for their world to step back in time, I'm afraid the ****stick revolution was over before it really began.

FuiFui BradBrad · Post by **FuiFui BradBrad** » January 18, 2021, 8:14 am

According to News.com*, there are places in the US who can't keep up with supply of guns and ammunition. Gun stores are posting signs up saying they're sold out of ammo.

Strap yourselves in everyone

*I know, News.com is a terrible source of news, but meh

the bone · Post by **the bone** » January 18, 2021, 9:10 am

News.com is trash. That asterisk can’t really be overlooked.

gerg · Post by **gerg** » January 18, 2021, 9:21 am

Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:According to News.com*, there are places in the US who can't keep up with supply of guns and ammunition. Gun stores are posting signs up saying they're sold out of ammo.

Strap yourselves in everyone

*I know, News.com is a terrible source of news, but meh

Gun sales have increased since the beginning of the pandemic. Americans preparing for the apocalypse.

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Botman · Post by **Botman** » January 18, 2021, 9:37 am

Fuifui Bradbrad wrote: ↑January 18, 2021, 8:14 am According to News.com*, there are places in the US who can't keep up with supply of guns and ammunition. Gun stores are posting signs up saying they're sold out of ammo.

Strap yourselves in everyone

*I know, News.com is a terrible source of news, but meh

Bear in mind that with power of the senate, the Dems can push through meaningful and significant gun reforms.
So that is going to be driving sales big time, people buying up guns and ammo now with the expectation that once the Dems are in, they'll push for legislation that limits the sale of certain weapons and types of ammo, as well as stricter background checks

Now that doesnt mean these newly purchased weapons wont be used in some sort of giant civil war/apocalypse scenario... but i think the threat of gun reform is probably driving sales as much as anything else

The Nickman · Post by **The Nickman** » January 19, 2021, 10:11 am

So far this has been the worst uprising ever.

It's appearing more and more likely that either a) the insurgents are holding off now on everything until inauguration day, or 2) the sheer show of force and security finally being put out by the US Government has basically scared the so-called "patriots" back into their dark little holes for the time being.

I'm starting to lean more and more towards option ii here.

gerg · Post by **gerg** » January 19, 2021, 10:47 am

The Nickman wrote:So far this has been the worst uprising ever.

It's appearing more and more likely that either a) the insurgents are holding off now on everything until inauguration day, or 2) the sheer show of force and security finally being put out by the US Government has basically scared the so-called "patriots" back into their dark little holes for the time being.

I'm starting to lean more and more towards option ii here.

I'd lean more to your option two. We had a few protests to deal with and there would be more police than protesters. They have an incredible amount of resources at their disposal - which is why I was so surprised at how they were so easily overrun. We used to go to a Saturday morning story time at the public library and had to go through x-ray machines and security checkpoints to enter a public library.

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gangrenous · Post by **gangrenous** » January 19, 2021, 11:47 am

That’s because people learning things is what got America into this mess! Don’t want to make access to dem book dings easy!

Manbush · Post by **Manbush** » January 20, 2021, 7:38 am

Some state capitals did have small armed protests on the 17th but they were out numbered by police, saw an interview with a leader of one of the big militia groups they were staying away because they didn’t want the blame if the Proud Boys or boogaloos boys caused drama.

Less than 24hrs to go for Trumps reign, and less than 24hrs until he loses presidential protections from charges and investigations.

Manbush · Post by **Manbush** » January 20, 2021, 7:41 am

Botman wrote: ↑January 18, 2021, 9:37 am
Fuifui Bradbrad wrote: ↑January 18, 2021, 8:14 am According to News.com*, there are places in the US who can't keep up with supply of guns and ammunition. Gun stores are posting signs up saying they're sold out of ammo.

Strap yourselves in everyone

*I know, News.com is a terrible source of news, but meh
Bear in mind that with power of the senate, the Dems can push through meaningful and significant gun reforms.
So that is going to be driving sales big time, people buying up guns and ammo now with the expectation that once the Dems are in, they'll push for legislation that limits the sale of certain weapons and types of ammo, as well as stricter background checks

Now that doesnt mean these newly purchased weapons wont be used in some sort of giant civil war/apocalypse scenario... but i think the threat of gun reform is probably driving sales as much as anything else

Yep gun sales always increase while Democrats are in power because of the fear mongering they’ll take their guns.

Post by **greeneyed** » January 20, 2021, 9:01 am

Imagine if there had been a US President who behaved in this fashion this past four years. Moving to watch.

-PJ- · Post by **-PJ-** » January 20, 2021, 10:41 am

Trumpsters last day in the White House..

Setting off the fire alarms and walking out in his undies would be a fitting end.

The Nickman · Post by **The Nickman** » January 20, 2021, 11:15 am

-PJ- wrote: ↑January 20, 2021, 10:41 am Trumpsters last day in the White House..

Setting off the fire alarms and walking out in his undies would be a fitting end.

Personally I'd prefer it if he left the building, climbed into a cannon and got fired directly into the sun, but each to their own.

Seiffert82 · Post by **Seiffert82** » January 20, 2021, 12:18 pm

The Nickman wrote: ↑January 19, 2021, 10:11 am So far this has been the worst uprising ever.

It's appearing more and more likely that either a) the insurgents are holding off now on everything until inauguration day, or 2) the sheer show of force and security finally being put out by the US Government has basically scared the so-called "patriots" back into their dark little holes for the time being.

I'm starting to lean more and more towards option ii here.

Most of these idiots have probably realised they are going to jail if they do anything stupid and then get identified.

No chance of the President covering their **** either, not that Trump would have done that anyway. He didn't care if they caught and died of COVID during his ridiculous campaign rallies.

Coastalraider · Post by **Coastalraider** » January 20, 2021, 5:52 pm

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FuiFui BradBrad · Post by **FuiFui BradBrad** » January 20, 2021, 5:53 pm

Papa’s made the Betoota

bonehead · Post by **bonehead** » January 20, 2021, 5:54 pm

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Sterlk · Post by **Sterlk** » January 20, 2021, 7:55 pm

By the time we all wake up tomorrow, the Trump era will be over.

I may even visit in the next few years, if their civil unrest dies out and the pandemic gets vaccinated to death.

The Nickman · Post by **The Nickman** » January 20, 2021, 9:14 pm

Sterlk wrote:By the time we all wake up tomorrow, the Trump era will be over.

I may even visit in the next few years, if their civil unrest dies out and the pandemic gets vaccinated to death.

Sadly, I don’t think the “Trump era” has finished at all and it’s possibly only just begun

Thank god his first term is almost over though

Dr Zaius · Post by **Dr Zaius** » January 20, 2021, 11:16 pm

The Orange Buffoon has left the Whitehouse.

Thank Christ that chapter is over.