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I don't think he adds much value to the side anymore. Carey anyone?
I can't see Head becoming our Captain, so it's either Cummins or Smith. Interesting times.
I can't see Head becoming our Captain, so it's either Cummins or Smith. Interesting times.
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Im ok with this. At 37, hard to see even stop gap value in Paine anymore.
Carey and Inglis are in the A side, so hopefully this Aus vs Aus A thing becomes a real shootout. While unpopular, I like Inglis over Carey TBH.
Carey and Inglis are in the A side, so hopefully this Aus vs Aus A thing becomes a real shootout. While unpopular, I like Inglis over Carey TBH.
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The noise has been to elevate Cummins. I don't mind this if he wants to do it.
Head obviously has experience, but is struggling to hold a spot in the XI.
Smith is the obviously choice IMO, but that would require CA to deal with the sandpapergate fallout of going back to him.
Labu was the left field suggestion.
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Loosebuschange as Captain. God the camera wouldn't even be able to stay still at the toss - no thanks.
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Yet another disappointing end for a Sporting figure. If CA knew about this why was he appointed Captain? Nothing remains a secret these days. Seriously dumb act and he would have been in his 30s at the time so no boy. What a pain....
We may see a fast bowler as a Test Captain. Pat Cummins has been groomed for the role and he has an Ashes series to learn the ropes. Labu as the VC. I don't think they will go back to Smith. Too much baggage after sandpaper gate.
We may see a fast bowler as a Test Captain. Pat Cummins has been groomed for the role and he has an Ashes series to learn the ropes. Labu as the VC. I don't think they will go back to Smith. Too much baggage after sandpaper gate.
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Head is the best choice IMO. However we would need to move away from the ingrained mentality where the captain cannot be dropped. If he's not batting well enough then replace him and name a new captain. Simple as that.Matt wrote: ↑November 19, 2021, 5:01 pmThe noise has been to elevate Cummins. I don't mind this if he wants to do it.
Head obviously has experience, but is struggling to hold a spot in the XI.
Smith is the obviously choice IMO, but that would require CA to deal with the sandpapergate fallout of going back to him.
Labu was the left field suggestion.
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For mine it has to be Pat Cummins or Steve Smith
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Yeah no way it's going to be Head. They probably will want a cleanskin too so I think Smith is less likely than Cummins. However I can imagine Cummins will miss matches here and there either due to injury or rest so that will make the choice of VC important.
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They’ll name Cummins as captain but Smith will run the team from first slip. Heads no chance, you can’t have a captain that struggles to make the team.
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Pick your best team then name a captain. Don't pick a captain then name a team around them.
The role of Australian Test Captain has been severely diminished since Langer became coach. He dictates just about everything.
The role of Australian Test Captain has been severely diminished since Langer became coach. He dictates just about everything.
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Cummins makes the best team.Northern Raider wrote: ↑November 20, 2021, 11:00 am Pick your best team then name a captain. Don't pick a captain then name a team around them.
The role of Australian Test Captain has been severely diminished since Langer became coach. He dictates just about everything.
If he is capable, then why not?
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How about Marnus ?
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The problem with Cummins is that making him captain puts a hell of a lot of pressure on a fast bowler who has had severe injury concerns I'm his past. They probably need to ignore that though and just name him.
The most interesting thing is who replaces Paine. His position is untenable without the captaincy. Carey and Inglis the front runners. Peirson is the form keeper bat. I've always been a bit sketchy on Carey but I think what he did in the 50 over world cup carries weight and should be given a crack at it.
The most interesting thing is who replaces Paine. His position is untenable without the captaincy. Carey and Inglis the front runners. Peirson is the form keeper bat. I've always been a bit sketchy on Carey but I think what he did in the 50 over world cup carries weight and should be given a crack at it.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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It always felt like the captaincy would go back to Smith once the furore over Sandpaper-gate died down. Now is the perfect opportunity to give it back to him.
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I feel for Paine and I question why/how this all comes out 4 years after the fact and after it had been dealt with. However, I know think it’s time to move him on.
My line up at this stage would be:
Warner
Renshaw
Labuschange
Smith
Head
Green
Inglis
Cummins (c)
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My line up at this stage would be:
Warner
Renshaw
Labuschange
Smith
Head
Green
Inglis
Cummins (c)
Starc
Lyon
Hazlewood
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Yeah I can't see what Paine adds to the team anymore tbh.
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I think if Paine had stepped down in 'natural' circumstances - ie. no controversy, they could go back to him... but to replace Paine (who replaced Smith in controversial circumstances) with Smith is not going to go down well.the bone wrote:It always felt like the captaincy would go back to Smith once the furore over Sandpaper-gate died down. Now is the perfect opportunity to give it back to him.
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Renshaw hasn't been opening in any form for a while now.Dusty wrote: ↑November 21, 2021, 12:46 pm I feel for Paine and I question why/how this all comes out 4 years after the fact and after it had been dealt with. However, I know think it’s time to move him on.
My line up at this stage would be:
Warner
Renshaw
Labuschange
Smith
Head
Green
Inglis
Cummins (c)
Starc
Lyon
Hazlewood
12th Richardson
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well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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Correct.julian87 wrote:Renshaw hasn't been opening in any form for a while now.Dusty wrote: ↑November 21, 2021, 12:46 pm I feel for Paine and I question why/how this all comes out 4 years after the fact and after it had been dealt with. However, I know think it’s time to move him on.
My line up at this stage would be:
Warner
Renshaw
Labuschange
Smith
Head
Green
Inglis
Cummins (c)
Starc
Lyon
Hazlewood
12th Richardson
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He was unfairly punted from the role. I think he deserves a shot.
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No way Renshaw will get picked ahead of Khawaja or Harris ... I mean yeah, he isn't even in the squad stating the obvious. Still, he did show more than Harris on the international stage...
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Agree Renshaw was prematurely cut from the test squad. Thing is his form as an opener fell off a cliff after that. He only started scoring runs again when he shifted to no6. Now way he gets pitched into an opening role on recall.Dusty wrote: ↑November 21, 2021, 5:06 pmCorrect.julian87 wrote:Renshaw hasn't been opening in any form for a while now.Dusty wrote: ↑November 21, 2021, 12:46 pm I feel for Paine and I question why/how this all comes out 4 years after the fact and after it had been dealt with. However, I know think it’s time to move him on.
My line up at this stage would be:
Warner
Renshaw
Labuschange
Smith
Head
Green
Inglis
Cummins (c)
Starc
Lyon
Hazlewood
12th Richardson
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He was unfairly punted from the role. I think he deserves a shot.
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The two controversies were completely different. Sandpapergate was over 3.5 years ago, it’s time to get over it. Give the C back to Smitty!gergreg wrote: ↑November 21, 2021, 1:21 pmI think if Paine had stepped down in 'natural' circumstances - ie. no controversy, they could go back to him... but to replace Paine (who replaced Smith in controversial circumstances) with Smith is not going to go down well.the bone wrote:It always felt like the captaincy would go back to Smith once the furore over Sandpaper-gate died down. Now is the perfect opportunity to give it back to him.
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With the high cost of building materials like Sandpaper, the Australian captain needs to be someone with a solid IPL contract.
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https://wwos.nine.com.au/cricket/tim-pa ... ocial-WWOS
I have Inglis at the top of my list, then Carey. However, I wouldn't object to throwing Phillipe in the deep end.
I think its telling that all our keeper batsmen options avg 32-34 in red ball cricket though.
PS. The WA keeper who gave the gloves away scored 170* odd today. Sam Whiteman
I have Inglis at the top of my list, then Carey. However, I wouldn't object to throwing Phillipe in the deep end.
I think its telling that all our keeper batsmen options avg 32-34 in red ball cricket though.
PS. The WA keeper who gave the gloves away scored 170* odd today. Sam Whiteman
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Add to that Smith wasn't directly involved. His was a failure of leadership. He's copped enough punishment for what he did (or didn't do).the bone wrote: ↑November 21, 2021, 10:25 pmThe two controversies were completely different. Sandpapergate was over 3.5 years ago, it’s time to get over it. Give the C back to Smitty!gergreg wrote: ↑November 21, 2021, 1:21 pmI think if Paine had stepped down in 'natural' circumstances - ie. no controversy, they could go back to him... but to replace Paine (who replaced Smith in controversial circumstances) with Smith is not going to go down well.the bone wrote:It always felt like the captaincy would go back to Smith once the furore over Sandpaper-gate died down. Now is the perfect opportunity to give it back to him.
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I haven't watched Inglis this season but I thought his numbers were inflated last year on 2 tons on roads with big scores already on the board.Matt wrote:https://wwos.nine.com.au/cricket/tim-pa ... ocial-WWOS
I have Inglis at the top of my list, then Carey. However, I wouldn't object to throwing Phillipe in the deep end.
I think its telling that all our keeper batsmen options avg 32-34 in red ball cricket though.
PS. The WA keeper who gave the gloves away scored 170* odd today. Sam Whiteman
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Why would you take Philippe over Inglis?Matt wrote: ↑November 22, 2021, 6:56 pm https://wwos.nine.com.au/cricket/tim-pa ... ocial-WWOS
I have Inglis at the top of my list, then Carey. However, I wouldn't object to throwing Phillipe in the deep end.
I think its telling that all our keeper batsmen options avg 32-34 in red ball cricket though.
PS. The WA keeper who gave the gloves away scored 170* odd today. Sam Whiteman
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I think Smith is the best person for the job and let's face it, it's tough to lead a team from fine leg or third man - as Cummins would be doing.Northern Raider wrote:Add to that Smith wasn't directly involved. His was a failure of leadership. He's copped enough punishment for what he did (or didn't do).the bone wrote: ↑November 21, 2021, 10:25 pmThe two controversies were completely different. Sandpapergate was over 3.5 years ago, it’s time to get over it. Give the C back to Smitty!gergreg wrote: ↑November 21, 2021, 1:21 pmI think if Paine had stepped down in 'natural' circumstances - ie. no controversy, they could go back to him... but to replace Paine (who replaced Smith in controversial circumstances) with Smith is not going to go down well.the bone wrote:It always felt like the captaincy would go back to Smith once the furore over Sandpaper-gate died down. Now is the perfect opportunity to give it back to him.
But the optics of having 3 consecutive captains shrouded in controversy are not good at all. Cricket Australia would be crazy to appoint Smith as captain.
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Steve Smith should never have been sacked. Put him back in.
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Younger.Northern Raider wrote: ↑November 22, 2021, 7:50 pmWhy would you take Philippe over Inglis?Matt wrote: ↑November 22, 2021, 6:56 pm https://wwos.nine.com.au/cricket/tim-pa ... ocial-WWOS
I have Inglis at the top of my list, then Carey. However, I wouldn't object to throwing Phillipe in the deep end.
I think its telling that all our keeper batsmen options avg 32-34 in red ball cricket though.
PS. The WA keeper who gave the gloves away scored 170* odd today. Sam Whiteman
Talented ball striker.
Seems to be maturing a bit with his cricket.
Its a punt.
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24 vs 26 is hardly a significant age difference that justifies taking a punt. Personally I'd wait till Philippe can show he's worthy of selection in the WA team ahead of Inglis before catapulting him into the Test team.Matt wrote: ↑November 22, 2021, 8:14 pmYounger.Northern Raider wrote: ↑November 22, 2021, 7:50 pmWhy would you take Philippe over Inglis?Matt wrote: ↑November 22, 2021, 6:56 pm https://wwos.nine.com.au/cricket/tim-pa ... ocial-WWOS
I have Inglis at the top of my list, then Carey. However, I wouldn't object to throwing Phillipe in the deep end.
I think its telling that all our keeper batsmen options avg 32-34 in red ball cricket though.
PS. The WA keeper who gave the gloves away scored 170* odd today. Sam Whiteman
Talented ball striker.
Seems to be maturing a bit with his cricket.
Its a punt.
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No he shouldn’t.
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