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if they don't shine at the storm where will they?

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Casino actually got pretty fit last year from memory. Maybe he's fat again.

He's a big body we need with a nice offload if fit and motivated but I think our roster is just about full. And I think he'd go to England before signing on for minimum.
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bonehead wrote: February 19, 2019, 11:27 am if they don't shine at the storm where will they?

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If you look at their recruiting I think the idea Bellamy gets a lot out of average and unknown players is a bit of myth. Our record would be better in that regard.
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edwahu wrote: February 19, 2019, 11:03 am Storm have put Kasiano, Blair and Patrick Kaufusi on the market. Mulholland was also wrapping Kasiano this morning in an NRL article :hmmm
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Wiki Special wrote: February 19, 2019, 12:06 pm
edwahu wrote: February 19, 2019, 11:03 am Storm have put Kasiano, Blair and Patrick Kaufusi on the market. Mulholland was also wrapping Kasiano this morning in an NRL article :hmmm
Tell them we'll help by taking Jahrome Hughes off their books.
Ill 2nd this movement, as long as its below cost :thumbsup
Otherwise Id take Drinkwater, hell, even the kid starting with P and every letter of the alphabet
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Matt wrote: February 19, 2019, 12:24 pm
Wiki Special wrote: February 19, 2019, 12:06 pm
edwahu wrote: February 19, 2019, 11:03 am Storm have put Kasiano, Blair and Patrick Kaufusi on the market. Mulholland was also wrapping Kasiano this morning in an NRL article :hmmm
Tell them we'll help by taking Jahrome Hughes off their books.
Ill 2nd this movement, as long as its below cost :thumbsup
Otherwise Id take Drinkwater, hell, even the kid starting with P and every letter of the alphabet
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Matt wrote: February 19, 2019, 12:24 pm
Wiki Special wrote: February 19, 2019, 12:06 pm
edwahu wrote: February 19, 2019, 11:03 am Storm have put Kasiano, Blair and Patrick Kaufusi on the market. Mulholland was also wrapping Kasiano this morning in an NRL article :hmmm
Tell them we'll help by taking Jahrome Hughes off their books.
Ill 2nd this movement, as long as its below cost :thumbsup
Otherwise Id take Drinkwater, hell, even the kid starting with P and every letter of the alphabet
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It's horses for courses, but the nature of the beast comes into play as well for Mulholland.

Especially if the NRL continues to chase a faster game with more ball-in-play time, with potential for reducing allotted interchanges discussed each off-season by the competition committee.

"At the moment there's a place still for the big men but it depends on their engine," Mulholland said.

"A guy like Sam Kasiano at the right weight – 118-120 kilos – he can play big minutes, he's got that big an engine. But other guys don't have that aerobic capacity, a lot depends on the animal himself.

"And it's not just about attack either, a lot depends on defence and how they fare with lateral movement when they're fatigued.

"But if the game's going to speed up again there will be another evolution needed for those big men".
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I wonder whether he watches the game based on those comments. It's 5 years since he regularly played 40 minutes a game and he plays less minutes than Boyd.
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Beejay wrote: February 19, 2019, 2:09 pm **
It's horses for courses, but the nature of the beast comes into play as well for Mulholland.

Especially if the NRL continues to chase a faster game with more ball-in-play time, with potential for reducing allotted interchanges discussed each off-season by the competition committee.

"At the moment there's a place still for the big men but it depends on their engine," Mulholland said.

"A guy like Sam Kasiano at the right weight – 118-120 kilos – he can play big minutes, he's got that big an engine. But other guys don't have that aerobic capacity, a lot depends on the animal himself.

"And it's not just about attack either, a lot depends on defence and how they fare with lateral movement when they're fatigued.

"But if the game's going to speed up again there will be another evolution needed for those big men".
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Just a thought - if CNK doesn't work at the back, and given that we still have cap relief for Rapana, I'm pretty certain that Zac Santo is currently only on reserve grade contract with Townsville in the QLD Cup.
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But we also know that Zac Santo is not a first grade player... in terms of defence. He was released for a reason.
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edwahu wrote: February 19, 2019, 2:13 pm I wonder whether he watches the game based on those comments. It's 5 years since he regularly played 40 minutes a game and he plays less minutes than Boyd.
I can only see the data going back to 2014 and in that year he averaged 33mins. His best was 2015 where he averaged 34.5, and then since then it has been 30mins or less per game.

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I’d take Kasiano. One 20 minute stint covering either side of halftime is all we need. Low money replacement for Boyd and Paulo.
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BJ wrote: February 19, 2019, 3:17 pm I’d take Kasiano. One 20 minute stint covering either side of halftime is all we need. Low money replacement for Boyd and Paulo.
I think if we are saying our strategy is mobility it doesn't make sense to replace those two.
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Still think we are a bit light up front. I wouldn't mind if we get Kasiano if it means that Liu doesn't make the 17. A bench of the following would work well:

- Havili
- Sutton
- Guler/Horsborgh
- Kasiano
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edwahu wrote: February 19, 2019, 3:26 pm
BJ wrote: February 19, 2019, 3:17 pm I’d take Kasiano. One 20 minute stint covering either side of halftime is all we need. Low money replacement for Boyd and Paulo.
I think if we are saying our strategy is mobility it doesn't make sense to replace those two.
Besides the fact that Kasiano would be on very minimal coin compared to Paulo and Boyd.

I think there is still a place for big men in the game... you just don't want them as your two highest paid props and expected to play a minimum of 40 minutes/game. Our two big men struggled defensively as fatigue kicked in, but they made some big metres up the park for us which we will miss this season. Somebody like Kasiano on a small contract could be a perfect interchange option (could be another Dave Taylor for us).

If you limit a big body to 20 minutes or so, the fatigue/mobility factor isn't an issue imo.
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Looks like Robert Jennings will be a Tiger
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El_Capitano wrote: February 16, 2019, 3:05 pm
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El_Capitano wrote:I have been amazed at Penrith’s seemingly bottomless talent pool


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It's a pretty solid development area and has been for a long, long time. I'm more amazed at their ability to stockpile so much quality depth, but I think that is what you were alluding to?

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It's the best RL catchment area in the country. I might be biased, i grew up playing in the area (and getting routinely embarrassed by kids who much better than me, haha) but the it's not a seemingly bottomless talent pool, it is bottomless.
Their depth is simply borne out of that, we sign guys like Lui, Hunt, Abbey, Knight etc to round out our squad... We have to pay a little more, because if those guys were just minimum wage guys, they wouldnt be here, they'd stay close to come and be a minimum wage guy at the bulldogs or tigers etc

So we pay a little on top for those sorts of guys... where as Penrith are just promoting their local kids to minimum wage contracts until they prove it, and these are kids who are better and more talented than the free agents we're bringing in
It really is the best catchment area in the country. We should be signing up anyone who can point out Big Chief on a map
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Saw today Edwards has one the race to the fullback spot. DWZ will be on the wing. No Hope of Edwards coming. I didn't think it would happen after we signed CNK

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LimeGreenMachine wrote:Saw today Edwards has one the race to the fullback spot. DWZ will be on the wing. No Hope of Edwards coming. I didn't think it would happen after we signed CNK

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Beejay wrote: February 19, 2019, 3:10 pm
edwahu wrote: February 19, 2019, 2:13 pm I wonder whether he watches the game based on those comments. It's 5 years since he regularly played 40 minutes a game and he plays less minutes than Boyd.
That's our recruitment manager ladies and gentleman..
What’s Mulholland's record as a recruitment manager?
From memory he came after all our ‘good’ signings: Tarpine, Paulo, hodgo, leilua etc.
has he had good results at other clubs? Didn’t he sign Mccrone when at the dragons?
Their signings seemed to be a lot better when he left to come here
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LimeGreenMachine wrote: February 19, 2019, 5:35 pm Saw today Edwards has one the race to the fullback spot. DWZ will be on the wing. No Hope of Edwards coming. I didn't think it would happen after we signed CNK

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Edwards is playing fullback in this weekends trial but its dwz’s brother thats on the wing, not dallin.
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I think Edwards hasn't "won" the No. 1. DWZ isn't fit enough to take on the role at the moment. The test will come when DWZ is fully fit.
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Braddrew wrote: February 19, 2019, 6:11 pm
Beejay wrote: February 19, 2019, 3:10 pm
edwahu wrote: February 19, 2019, 2:13 pm I wonder whether he watches the game based on those comments. It's 5 years since he regularly played 40 minutes a game and he plays less minutes than Boyd.
That's our recruitment manager ladies and gentleman..
What’s Mulholland's record as a recruitment manager?
From memory he came after all our ‘good’ signings: Tarpine, Paulo, hodgo, leilua etc.
has he had good results at other clubs? Didn’t he sign Mccrone when at the dragons?
Their signings seemed to be a lot better when he left to come here
From memory pete signed mccrone to the dragons about a week before he left there to come here. Id put that down as his absolute best recruitment move to date. Im pretty sure he signed tapine but could be wrong
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He did sign Tapine. I think people are being very tough on Peter Mulholland. He's got a heap of rugby league knowledge, and obviously he has extensive networks at junior development level. He's scouring places like New Zealand and Fiji for talent. He's built up links to Monaro and Riverina. I'm not certain the western Sydney stragegy is delivering much... But in any event, he's got rugby league in his blood. And he's a very nice bloke as well, which is an admirable quality in rugby league today.
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Braddrew wrote: February 19, 2019, 6:11 pm
Beejay wrote: February 19, 2019, 3:10 pm
edwahu wrote: February 19, 2019, 2:13 pm I wonder whether he watches the game based on those comments. It's 5 years since he regularly played 40 minutes a game and he plays less minutes than Boyd.
That's our recruitment manager ladies and gentleman..
What’s Mulholland's record as a recruitment manager?
From memory he came after all our ‘good’ signings: Tarpine, Paulo, hodgo, leilua etc.
has he had good results at other clubs? Didn’t he sign Mccrone when at the dragons?
Their signings seemed to be a lot better when he left to come here
You would have to credit him with Tapine. Technically Paulo signed when he was here but that was rumoured as a done deal well before he came. That's it for NRL first graders.
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Yep he def signed Tapine. Signed him at the knights then brought him across to the raiders. Pretty sure he also signed Paulo.
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Paulo was posted on here as signed in September and I believe Mulholland signed in November.

I'd give him credit for Havilli and Oldfield, who were good value signings. John Bateman is also a very good signing even if he doesn't come off.

All in all our recruitment would be bottom 2 in the league since he came through, he has to be held partially accountable for that. Even if his hands are tied by the cap.
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greeneyed wrote: February 19, 2019, 6:18 pm He did sign Tapine. I think people are being very tough on Peter Mulholland. He's got a heap of rugby league knowledge, and obviously he has extensive networks at junior development level. He's scouring places like New Zealand and Fiji for talent. He's built up links to Monaro and Riverina. I'm not certain the western Sydney stragegy is delivering much... But in any event, he's got rugby league in his blood. And he's a very nice bloke as well, which is an admirable quality in rugby league today.
The more I read that defence of him the more I realise he has to go.
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Beejay wrote: February 19, 2019, 6:31 pm
greeneyed wrote: February 19, 2019, 6:18 pm He did sign Tapine. I think people are being very tough on Peter Mulholland. He's got a heap of rugby league knowledge, and obviously he has extensive networks at junior development level. He's scouring places like New Zealand and Fiji for talent. He's built up links to Monaro and Riverina. I'm not certain the western Sydney stragegy is delivering much... But in any event, he's got rugby league in his blood. And he's a very nice bloke as well, which is an admirable quality in rugby league today.
The more I read that defence of him the more I realise he has to go.
Well, I'm sorry you've concluded that. I certainly don't agree.
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Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:
LimeGreenMachine wrote:Saw today Edwards has one the race to the fullback spot. DWZ will be on the wing. No Hope of Edwards coming. I didn't think it would happen after we signed CNK

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He’s one the race for the number won spot?
Ahh yes I got that won rong.

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Yes what I read was DWZ will start on the wing in round 1. Coming back from injury

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Fuifui Bradbrad wrote: February 19, 2019, 5:34 pm It really is the best catchment area in the country. We should be signing up anyone who can point out Big Chief on a map
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