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radicalraider wrote:What if they offered both for either Jack or Hodgson and you had to release one, who would u let go?
Why would we HAVE to release one? Are they holding us at gunpoint?

What a stupid question

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radicalraider wrote:
chris83 wrote: July 21, 2021, 9:05 am
Raiders666 wrote: July 21, 2021, 8:51 am
radicalraider wrote: July 21, 2021, 8:36 am Not sure if you'd believe anything Hooper says
He at least has a higher strike rate than you
Burn!!!!
Geez not signing Dufty has really hurt some of you Image
Nah, it's just you're repeatedly wrong

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-TW- wrote: July 21, 2021, 1:41 pm
radicalraider wrote:
chris83 wrote: July 21, 2021, 9:05 am
Raiders666 wrote: July 21, 2021, 8:51 am
radicalraider wrote: July 21, 2021, 8:36 am Not sure if you'd believe anything Hooper says
He at least has a higher strike rate than you
Burn!!!!
Geez not signing Dufty has really hurt some of you Image
Nah, it's just you're repeatedly wrong

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radicalraider wrote:
-TW- wrote: July 21, 2021, 1:41 pm
radicalraider wrote:
chris83 wrote: July 21, 2021, 9:05 am
Raiders666 wrote: July 21, 2021, 8:51 am He at least has a higher strike rate than you
Burn!!!!
Geez not signing Dufty has really hurt some of you Image
Nah, it's just you're repeatedly wrong

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You sound like the kinda bloke who is a toothpick

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-TW- wrote: July 21, 2021, 2:51 pm
radicalraider wrote:
-TW- wrote: July 21, 2021, 1:41 pm
radicalraider wrote:
chris83 wrote: July 21, 2021, 9:05 am

Burn!!!!
Geez not signing Dufty has really hurt some of you Image
Nah, it's just you're repeatedly wrong

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You sound like the kinda bloke who is a toothpick

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radicalraider wrote: July 21, 2021, 2:19 pm
-TW- wrote: July 21, 2021, 1:41 pm
radicalraider wrote:
chris83 wrote: July 21, 2021, 9:05 am
Raiders666 wrote: July 21, 2021, 8:51 am
He at least has a higher strike rate than you
Burn!!!!
Geez not signing Dufty has really hurt some of you Image
Nah, it's just you're repeatedly wrong

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Speaking of wrong, I bet ya if I asked you to run it straight at me you'd go the wrong way
Was there a clause in the contract that Dufty had to run it straight at you?
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We really need to find a buyer for Scott, and preferably Ryan James as well. As to next year, we have spoken about it at length, but is Croker really worth it at $600,000 / year (and for another 3 years). Josh Morris has been "rested", supposedly due to form, but his form is better than Croker's and he comes at a cheaper price for them as well.

Adam Keighran of the Roosters, who is also a goalkicker (and I think even better than Sam Walker at goalkicking), cannot make the first 17. Maybe he can be a short term halfback option and would come cheaper than Brooks.
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Hong Kong Raider wrote: July 21, 2021, 4:36 pm We really need to find a buyer for Scott, and preferably Ryan James as well. As to next year, we have spoken about it at length, but is Croker really worth it at $600,000 / year (and for another 3 years). Josh Morris has been "rested", supposedly due to form, but his form is better than Croker's and he comes at a cheaper price for them as well.

Adam Keighran of the Roosters, who is also a goalkicker (and I think even better than Sam Walker at goalkicking), cannot make the first 17. Maybe he can be a short term halfback option and would come cheaper than Brooks.
I didn't watch any of the games last weekend and haven't really kept up to speed with this forum but what's the beef with James? There are a couple middle forwards such as Horsburgh and Soliola (due to age) that I'd be looking to shift first.

Re: Croker, it doesn't really matter if he's not worth it at $600k a year for the next few years - that's the deal we've signed him on. Unless there's a pathway for medical retirement, we're gonna have to wear that one.
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Wests Tigers say swap offer to Canberra Raiders never happened: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-21/ ... /100310488

Wests Tigers have botched Luke Brooks' halves role throughout his time at the club, legendary halfback Peter Sterling says: https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/wests-tige ... fb487581f3
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Raiders_Pat wrote: July 21, 2021, 5:45 pm
Hong Kong Raider wrote: July 21, 2021, 4:36 pm We really need to find a buyer for Scott, and preferably Ryan James as well. As to next year, we have spoken about it at length, but is Croker really worth it at $600,000 / year (and for another 3 years). Josh Morris has been "rested", supposedly due to form, but his form is better than Croker's and he comes at a cheaper price for them as well.

Adam Keighran of the Roosters, who is also a goalkicker (and I think even better than Sam Walker at goalkicking), cannot make the first 17. Maybe he can be a short term halfback option and would come cheaper than Brooks.
I didn't watch any of the games last weekend and haven't really kept up to speed with this forum but what's the beef with James? There are a couple middle forwards such as Horsburgh and Soliola (due to age) that I'd be looking to shift first.

Re: Croker, it doesn't really matter if he's not worth it at $600k a year for the next few years - that's the deal we've signed him on. Unless there's a pathway for medical retirement, we're gonna have to wear that one.
Where did the $600k per year come from?
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Hong Kong Raider wrote:We really need to find a buyer for Scott, and preferably Ryan James as well. As to next year, we have spoken about it at length, but is Croker really worth it at $600,000 / year (and for another 3 years). Josh Morris has been "rested", supposedly due to form, but his form is better than Croker's and he comes at a cheaper price for them as well.

Adam Keighran of the Roosters, who is also a goalkicker (and I think even better than Sam Walker at goalkicking), cannot make the first 17. Maybe he can be a short term halfback option and would come cheaper than Brooks.
moving Ryan James does effectively nothing, he's only on a 1yr contract around $300k so at this point in the season we need someone to take his whole pay to save about $100k then we need to replace him in the cap even a base wage guy will be 60k roughly so we're saving about 40k to move on a really consistent guy who is great off the field.

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Re-sign Rapana
Its a no-brainer
Embarrassing that the best back ALL year is in the company of Aekins and Frawley as having no contract after 2021.
If it’s being done in conjunction with Scott being jettisoned and Rapa getting his money then ok.
But **** what more does the bloke have to do when you see Whitehead getting extended ,Williams another year.
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Early in the year, I was saying this is Rapana's final year. But he's definitely earned one more year.
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x 3 resign Rapana.
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greeneyed wrote: July 23, 2021, 9:50 am Early in the year, I was saying this is Rapana's final year. But he's definitely earned one more year.
Every time he looks on his last legs and this should be his last, he finds another second wind and goes up a gear again.
Certainly right now he's our best winger. At this point we, and specifically me, should stop doubting him :lol:
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Last year Rapana's off season was in Japan playing rugby. Rejoined the NRL when that comp fell over. He was out of sync and off the pace. He's had a full prep for NRL this year and the results are displayed on field.
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One more year

One more year

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I think at this point the only reason he wouldn't re-sign is price. If he's able to get a better deal or an extra year up north he'll take it.
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Absolutely we should re-sign Rapana. He and CNK should be locks in our back 5 for 2022. Savage, Timoko, Kris, HSS fighting it out for the other 3 spots (with the other on the bench). Valemei and Simonsson as depth. Very confident Scott will move on but no idea what the Club and Individual plan to do regarding Croker for next year and beyond.
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Im still on the 'you dont see many 30 yr old wingers' train. But apparently you can add Jordy to Brett Morris as the exception to the rule (give or take an ACL).
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We should offer a Swap deal wighton for Pearce from next week
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Wiki Special wrote:Absolutely we should re-sign Rapana. He and CNK should be locks in our back 5 for 2022. Savage, Timoko, Kris, HSS fighting it out for the other 3 spots (with the other on the bench). Valemei and Simonsson as depth. Very confident Scott will move on but no idea what the Club and Individual plan to do regarding Croker for next year and beyond.
I like this post, it all sounds good to me.

Unfortunately I think Croker will be there.
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The issue with Rapana is a) his price and b) his physical decline limits us to playing a certain way that is not going to be very effective in pursuit of a premiership.

You can get away with Rapana, sure - IF you have some speed on the other side. A wing combination of Rapana and Valemei is not quick enough. Having CNK back would not help that issue either.

I'd be fine with Rapana if he was willing to go cheap and be the backup veteran.
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greeneyed wrote: July 23, 2021, 9:50 am Early in the year, I was saying this is Rapana's final year. But he's definitely earned one more year.
I too have to change my call on Rapa. The make up of the back 5 is still fluid but we have a few options now that Savage can be locked in as either wing or FB. Even Jordy Raps as a #14 would be good- can definitely change a game, covers most backline positions or you could let him rip as a 5/8 as well and big/strong enough to cover backrow or modern lock.

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I'd like us to go with a back five of 1. Savage 2. CNK 3. Timoko 4. Kris 5. HSS, with Rapana, Bailey and Semi as back up. Although not the speediest backline in the comp, it's still above average, and better than what we currently have / are playing. CNK can play fullback in defence and alternate with Savage. Don't mind signing Tesi Niu as well for extra X factor, although he's far from the polished and complete article. Savage deserves his chance at fullback and Timoko in the centres from what we have seen. We need to resign HSS quick as I'm sure other clubs like Wests and Brisbane will be looking at him. We need a goalkicker as well.
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Rapana on the bench works for 2022 too if he is willing and the youth kick on. He and CNK are huge effort players and I don't think you can put a price on what those types of players do for your squad. Only thing in that mix is I feel Timoko, Kris and HSS are all specialist centres. HSS did well with his carries Thursday night but defensively and under the high ball he looked like he needed a fair bit of work as a winger.
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Im not sold on Kris, don't think he's shown much to be honest. Would rather try CNK at centre and Rapana or Simsonson on the wing.
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mongoose wrote: July 24, 2021, 10:25 am Im not sold on Kris, don't think he's shown much to be honest. Would rather try CNK at centre and Rapana or Simsonson on the wing.
He had a OK game v Parra, but I don't think his defence is that great and needs improvement (e.g. Cronulla, Melbourne, Roosters games). HSS can also play centre with Rapa on the wing
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Wiki Special wrote: July 24, 2021, 10:16 am Rapana on the bench works for 2022 too if he is willing and the youth kick on. He and CNK are huge effort players and I don't think you can put a price on what those types of players do for your squad. Only thing in that mix is I feel Timoko, Kris and HSS are all specialist centres. HSS did well with his carries Thursday night but defensively and under the high ball he looked like he needed a fair bit of work as a winger.
One thing that I've noticed in the past few games is that we suck under the high ball. The Parra, Gold Coast and Easts games come to mind. I have not looked back at the stats for the % of bomb defusals but we seem to either not contest kicks or spill them. Also we don't seem to contest and win attacking kicks. In fact I cannot remember when we last scored off a bomb or an attacking kick. We need more practice.
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afgtnk wrote: July 24, 2021, 1:59 am The issue with Rapana is a) his price and b) his physical decline limits us to playing a certain way that is not going to be very effective in pursuit of a premiership.

You can get away with Rapana, sure - IF you have some speed on the other side. A wing combination of Rapana and Valemei is not quick enough. Having CNK back would not help that issue either.

I'd be fine with Rapana if he was willing to go cheap and be the backup veteran.
I think I subscribe to this... Semi is fast, but he isn't quick. Meaning, in a straight line you probly won't catch him, but he won't create the gap for himself with that speed by using footwork and accelerration - bit like Eddy Lee really.

If we have Savage on the other wing, or FB, I suspect that the balance will be ok.
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Hong Kong Raider wrote: July 24, 2021, 10:11 am I'd like us to go with a back five of 1. Savage 2. CNK 3. Timoko 4. Kris 5. HSS, with Rapana, Bailey and Semi as back up. Although not the speediest backline in the comp, it's still above average, and better than what we currently have / are playing. CNK can play fullback in defence and alternate with Savage. Don't mind signing Tesi Niu as well for extra X factor, although he's far from the polished and complete article. Savage deserves his chance at fullback and Timoko in the centres from what we have seen. We need to resign HSS quick as I'm sure other clubs like Wests and Brisbane will be looking at him. We need a goalkicker as well.
Im not sold on Kris. Big body. Strong front on defence, but laterally has issues.

Timoko will give Rapa a cold out there. Has to develop a pass. Must be able to setup his winger.

I'd go:
1. Savage/CNK
2. CNK/ Savage
3. Croker (unless we sign a GKing half)
4. HSS
5. Rapa

Kris would be my bench backs/ BR cover
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Raps was brilliant against Parra and has been one of our better backs this year but he has slowed and can’t outrun time. I’m just not convinced it’s good sense to play a player till they prove beyond doubt they are cooked and I suspect that is where Raps would be getting towards if we gave him another year.
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When a player plays a game like Jordan Rapana did on Thursday night, you cannot not sign him on. He was best on park.
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Canberra bad boy Curtis Scott is desperately searching for a new club as it becomes increasingly likely he’s played his final game for the Raiders: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 8f7e7f82e6

Not surprised no club is showing any interest in Scott. Will have to go the ESL. West Tigers may make an offer - they like bad boys and need him for the trifecta: Joey, James Roberts, and Scott.
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Matt wrote: July 24, 2021, 2:45 pm
Hong Kong Raider wrote: July 24, 2021, 10:11 am I'd like us to go with a back five of 1. Savage 2. CNK 3. Timoko 4. Kris 5. HSS, with Rapana, Bailey and Semi as back up. Although not the speediest backline in the comp, it's still above average, and better than what we currently have / are playing. CNK can play fullback in defence and alternate with Savage. Don't mind signing Tesi Niu as well for extra X factor, although he's far from the polished and complete article. Savage deserves his chance at fullback and Timoko in the centres from what we have seen. We need to resign HSS quick as I'm sure other clubs like Wests and Brisbane will be looking at him. We need a goalkicker as well.
Im not sold on Kris. Big body. Strong front on defence, but laterally has issues.
He doesn't seem to break many tackles either. I reckon Timoko has broken more tackles in less than half as many games.
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