2021 Rd 5 V Panthers: Game Day

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Who will win?

Raiders 13+
2
17%
Raiders 1-12
5
42%
Draw
0
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Panthers 1-12
1
8%
Panthers 13+
4
33%
 
Total votes: 12

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Re: 2021 Rd 5 V Panthers: Game Day

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Pete Cash wrote: April 9, 2021, 9:00 pm
Botman wrote: April 9, 2021, 8:57 pm Hudson Young gave the penalty away... you're apologies are accepted.
I feel it was a pretty soft penalty. Like for mine it's just play the ball
I agree it was soft. Think play on was the right call, but when a third man in comes and gets silly, they're more inclinded to penalise it now to prevent things blowing up
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Pete Cash wrote: April 9, 2021, 9:00 pm
Botman wrote: April 9, 2021, 8:57 pm Hudson Young gave the penalty away... you're apologies are accepted.
I feel it was a pretty soft penalty. Like for mine it's just play the ball
The ref said the penalty was for Rapana lashing out
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Jack to 1, Hodgson to 6, starling to 9
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Botman wrote: April 9, 2021, 8:53 pm
Makaveli wrote: April 9, 2021, 8:51 pm I saw no contact with the head of Rapana to be honest

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If there was contact, it was absolutely incidental. People gotta be outraged though

The real issue here is almost immediately the stupid 18th man rule has failed. Player removed from the game due to foul play, and is unable to be replaced. Pointless and changes the entire complextion of the game
Spot on. It will only work if refs have the courage to bin players for foul play which we know they won't. I'm not sure how you manage it but something needs to change. We're going to lose 2 games due to questionable HIA decisions (Kris being the other one)
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We have gotten sucked into the niggle and aggro.

I would like to see Simmonson at Fullback for the second half - he looked good there in the trial.

Also in Defence, Wighton should play outside the two backrowers and then come back into 6 when we have the ball.
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Anyone notice that our 18th man is a forward! So. Besides having 2 x hookers and 2 x forwards on the bench, if we got to use the 18th man we would still be ****! Common sense would tell you to at least put a back as 18th man


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Northern Raider wrote: April 9, 2021, 9:01 pm
Ilanraiders wrote: April 9, 2021, 8:56 pm CHN can’t be used bcoz of foul play?? 18th man rule my ****!!
Its because the player needs to be sin binned. Rule is 3 games old already been exposed as flawed. :lol:
There is literally no sense in that lol.

Absolute idiocy from the NRL. Who honestly thinks of **** like that.
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Begbie wrote: April 9, 2021, 9:01 pm If only Toots had grounded that ball - looking great in the first 20-25. Still - need more resolve when **** happens.
Yep that hurt but we were still up 6-0. Let in 18 unasnwered points since then.
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Ilanraiders wrote: April 9, 2021, 8:56 pm CHN can’t be used bcoz of foul play?? 18th man rule my ****!!
No, because Kikau was only penalised, he wasn't put on report, binned, or sent.

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GreenMachine wrote: April 9, 2021, 8:58 pm The “no brainer” move here is Wighton to fullback, Hodgson to half back, Williams to 5/8th... and Starling (a hooker)!to...uh..hooker.

So let’s see us ignore this move and get rinsed by 40 because we continue to play Jordan Disaster at fullback...
Spot on, this is where RS’s stubbornness will amount to a loss by more than 2 converted tries
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Couple of talking points:

I personally can’t blame Hudson Young. If a second rower drops on my winger like that ( I thought contact was on head but regardless) I want a teammate that fires up a bit. 99/100 iT won’t end up in a penalty against you.

CNK isn’t stopping that try, defence was too passive which gave Lui a tone of time to make that decision.

CNK got contact on the head that ended his night regardless of it being on report or not that should be enough to activate the 18th man.

I thought we went at Kikau early with the intention of gassing him out to stifle his attack. Seemed to work as I thought he went missing.


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Raiders666 wrote: April 9, 2021, 9:01 pm
Pete Cash wrote: April 9, 2021, 9:00 pm
Botman wrote: April 9, 2021, 8:57 pm Hudson Young gave the penalty away... you're apologies are accepted.
I feel it was a pretty soft penalty. Like for mine it's just play the ball
The ref said the penalty was for Rapana lashing out
That was in the intial discussion, post review, he clearly explained to Hodgson the penalty was on Young.
I feel like im going crazy, am i the only one actually watching it? It was on the telecast.
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Raiders666 wrote: April 9, 2021, 9:01 pm
Pete Cash wrote: April 9, 2021, 9:00 pm
Botman wrote: April 9, 2021, 8:57 pm Hudson Young gave the penalty away... you're apologies are accepted.
I feel it was a pretty soft penalty. Like for mine it's just play the ball
The ref said the penalty was for Rapana lashing out
That is what he initially called but after the review it was for Hudson Young running in on Kikau. That is what he explained to Hodgson.
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GreenMachine wrote: April 9, 2021, 9:01 pm
afgtnk wrote: April 9, 2021, 9:00 pm
GreenMachine wrote: April 9, 2021, 8:58 pm The “no brainer” move here is Wighton to fullback, Hodgson to half back, Williams to 5/8th... and Starling (a hooker)!to...uh..hooker.

So let’s see us ignore this move and get rinsed by 40 because we continue to play Jordan Disaster at fullback...
It's the closest theoretical 'like for like' replacement move, but it doesn't work in practice. Would risk throwing our game completely off
As opposed to our game being ‘on’ right this moment?
It's a structural thing. Moving a back to CNK's position doesn't affect it nearly as much

Shifting a half can derail an entire side of the field. I don't think Hodgo would do any training at halfback either
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raiderskater wrote:
Ilanraiders wrote: April 9, 2021, 8:56 pm CHN can’t be used bcoz of foul play?? 18th man rule my ****!!
No, because Kikau was only penalised, he wasn't put on report, binned, or sent.

NRL **** the bed bigtime here.
Plus CNK was hurt well before that. Was pretty early in the game he was getting looked at.


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Raider47 wrote: April 9, 2021, 9:03 pm
Northern Raider wrote: April 9, 2021, 9:01 pm
Ilanraiders wrote: April 9, 2021, 8:56 pm CHN can’t be used bcoz of foul play?? 18th man rule my ****!!
Its because the player needs to be sin binned. Rule is 3 games old already been exposed as flawed. :lol:
There is literally no sense in that lol.

Absolute idiocy from the NRL. Who honestly thinks of **** like that.
Yep. There's no way Sutton is binning Kikau in front if a Panthers crowd.
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We will be ok aye
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Yeah the ref told hodgson it was for hudson young push in the back
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Hodgson has lost his running game too
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Botman wrote: April 9, 2021, 9:03 pm
Raiders666 wrote: April 9, 2021, 9:01 pm
Pete Cash wrote: April 9, 2021, 9:00 pm
Botman wrote: April 9, 2021, 8:57 pm Hudson Young gave the penalty away... you're apologies are accepted.
I feel it was a pretty soft penalty. Like for mine it's just play the ball
The ref said the penalty was for Rapana lashing out
That was in the intial discussion, post review, he clearly explained to Hodgson the penalty was on Young.
I feel like im going crazy, am i the only one actually watching it? It was on the telecast.
My bad...I only heard when he sent it upstairs
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Raiders kick off to start the second half. They trail 18-6.
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Canberra Milk wrote: April 9, 2021, 9:05 pm Hodgson has lost his running game too
Let's play him at halfback then
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Hahaha yikes
Good start
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No knock on?
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Huge tackle by Young there
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One dumb moment has changed this game!!
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Whitehead and Hodgson an absolute barry of a tackle attempt. Each relying on the other.
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Yeah not good signs early on in the second
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FROG wrote: April 9, 2021, 9:02 pm
Botman wrote: April 9, 2021, 8:53 pm
Makaveli wrote: April 9, 2021, 8:51 pm I saw no contact with the head of Rapana to be honest

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If there was contact, it was absolutely incidental. People gotta be outraged though

The real issue here is almost immediately the stupid 18th man rule has failed. Player removed from the game due to foul play, and is unable to be replaced. Pointless and changes the entire complextion of the game
Spot on. It will only work if refs have the courage to bin players for foul play which we know they won't. I'm not sure how you manage it but something needs to change. We're going to lose 2 games due to questionable HIA decisions (Kris being the other one)
Trouble is there wasn’t much in it
You couldn’t argue it was worth a sin bin or send off
That’s why the rule was dumb from the onset
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43rd min The Raiders' kicking options at times are awful.
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A prop nearly outran our entire team. That's how slow we are
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Big difference is energy. Panthers play high energy.
That's where we are behind.

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The middle field half-punt such a poor option. Better off spreading it wide and Rapan booting it down field.
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Croker with another -5m hit up, right when we needed it.
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My Lord Croker is a complete plodder.

Absolutely highlighted tonight.
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