Canberra Milk wrote: ↑June 4, 2021, 12:26 pm
I like Hoops, ever since he called out Bateman and proved to be generally correct
Paul Kent I'm not so sure, I didn't like how he talked to Clint Newtown, very aggressive, didn't like it at all
I thought the way Paul Kent spoke to Clint Newton was downright disgraceful, completely lacking in any journalistic ethics.
I used to think Kent was alright.
Then I watched a replay of Wednesday night's NRL360... after switching the show off on Tuesday night, due to Hadley's carrying on, and the carrying on of others.
The way both Paul Kent and James Hooper interrupted, shouted down and talked down to Lara Pitt on Wednesday night was even worse than the behaviour on Tuesday night. Absolutely disgraceful. It sure looked a lot like bullying. The way Kent spoke to Daly Cherry-Evans was also completely unnecessary.
Hooper appears to have been generally correct on Bateman, and we shall see on Williams. But there's no need to behave like a bully boy schoolboy while you go about your job of being a reporter.
I've just about given up on NRL 360, and I generally respect Ben Ikin. But I was disturbed to see how he failed to step in and tell Kent and Hooper to let Lara Pitt have their say, and stop interrupting her.
GE I agree with regards to Lara Pitt. Every week on 360, at least once and often multiple times on a Wednesday night Hoops just cuts her off and talks over her. You can see in her body language that it rightfully pisses her off - she sits silent and waits - but you can see her internally steaming and rolling her eyes. Mansplaining at its worst and noting that Pitt is their only female commentator on this show it is bewildering and disturbing that Fox let it go on week after week.
Seeing this made me feel uncomfortable which reminded me of the last time I saw Lara Pitt in that chair and I remember thinking the same thing then.
The erraticness of what's acceptable and what's not in today's society is mind boggling.
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Mickey_Raider wrote: ↑June 4, 2021, 4:01 pm
Surely there won’t be Williams/player empowerment apologists on the GH if he winds up playing for a beachside NRL club next year?
Would be a supremely grubby move if the reports are correct.
100%, it still sounds like the issue was wanting certainty over his location (near family) for next year when his child comes, so if he is away from family then it confirms game-playing. Until then, it is a reasonable thing to agitate for, and uncertainty of being able to be with your first child during their first year of life seems like a perfectly understandable source of stress to me.
Worth noting that George is claiming to be in Canberra right now, so possibly another fail for Ricky's mates getting ahead of themselves.
He had a meeting in Canberra this morning to organise his release. Not sure that means the “report” about him recently being on the Gold Coast was incorrect.
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"Williams is currently holidaying on the Gold Coast - so much for being homesick - while the England halfback tries to resolve his contract termination with the Canberra Raiders."
That sounds incorrect to me?
See one of my other posts today to see at I think of Hooper, but he was pretty close to the mark on Bateman. I won’t be surprised if he’s pretty close to the mark on Williams.
Oh, I agree that we shouldn't fall down the fallacy that just because he's a misogynist/bully that is only interested in putting forward to point of view of Ricky Stuart, that he is necessarily wrong. After all, Ricky, or whoever it is in the club that has access to player welfare information and is enough of a lowlife to feel happy leaking it to the press, might be feeding the press the truth. Indeed, George could've disclosed that he is intending to holiday on the GC before heading back to the UK, and that's all that the Canberra leaker(s) gave Hooper, hence me saying he probably got ahead of himself.
Mickey_Raider wrote: ↑June 4, 2021, 4:01 pm
Surely there won’t be Williams/player empowerment apologists on the GH if he winds up playing for a beachside NRL club next year?
Would be a supremely grubby move if the reports are correct.
100%, it still sounds like the issue was wanting certainty over his location (near family) for next year when his child comes, so if he is away from family then it confirms game-playing. Until then, it is a reasonable thing to agitate for, and uncertainty of being able to be with your first child during their first year of life seems like a perfectly understandable source of stress to me.
Worth noting that George is claiming to be in Canberra right now, so possibly another fail for Ricky's mates getting ahead of themselves.
He had a meeting in Canberra this morning to organise his release. Not sure that means the “report” about him recently being on the Gold Coast was incorrect.
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“Predictably, another NRL club has already fielded a call to gauge interest in adding Williams to its roster for next year. Surprise, surprise, it’s a beachside club.”
Son, we live in a world that has forums, and those forums have to be guarded by Mods. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Nickman? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Lucy, and you curse GE. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that GE’s moderation, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, keeps threads on track and under the appropriately sized, highlighted green headings.
You want moderation because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that forum -- you need me on that forum. We use words like "stay on topic," "use the appropriate forum," "please delete." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very moderation that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you get a green handle and edit a post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think about moderation.
Canberra Milk wrote: ↑June 4, 2021, 12:26 pm
I like Hoops, ever since he called out Bateman and proved to be generally correct
Paul Kent I'm not so sure, I didn't like how he talked to Clint Newtown, very aggressive, didn't like it at all
I thought the way Paul Kent spoke to Clint Newton was downright disgraceful, completely lacking in any journalistic ethics.
I used to think Kent was alright.
Then I watched a replay of Wednesday night's NRL360... after switching the show off on Tuesday night, due to Hadley's carrying on, and the carrying on of others.
The way both Paul Kent and James Hooper interrupted, shouted down and talked down to Lara Pitt on Wednesday night was even worse than the behaviour on Tuesday night. Absolutely disgraceful. It sure looked a lot like bullying. The way Kent spoke to Daly Cherry-Evans was also completely unnecessary.
Hooper appears to have been generally correct on Bateman, and we shall see on Williams. But there's no need to behave like a bully boy schoolboy while you go about your job of being a reporter.
I've just about given up on NRL 360, and I generally respect Ben Ikin. But I was disturbed to see how he failed to step in and tell Kent and Hooper to let Lara Pitt have their say, and stop interrupting her.
Fantastic post. The journalist integrity of Hooper and Kent (who I also used to think was alright) is right out the window now for me, and whoever from the raiders' club is feeding these two **** information.
The whole thing **** stinks. No wonder the players have had enough.
We're supposed to be a **** professional organisation.
I'm like you guys - sick of Kent and Baldy being rude to Lara and disrespectful. He talks down to Lara. I used to like Kent but now he's smug, arrogant and rude. He only sees one side of things and is very disrespectful to people that he doesn't need favours from. I understand journalists are paid for their opinion but Kent is rude and obnoxious. Ricky should be like Bellamy who doesn't give a **** and not pamper these guys. Brent Read was the best panelist on there on Tuesday but now replaced by Hadley who I despise. Buzz is past it - Gus Gould was right about him. Paul Crawley is no better.
I’m surprised people like Brent Read with his heavy News Corp and Broncos agenda to his reporting. May as well get Rupert Murdoch to tell us about the game.
Mind you the others all have their own agendas too. I’m up for an all female media team, we might at least get some real reporting.
Canberra Milk wrote: ↑June 4, 2021, 12:26 pm
I like Hoops, ever since he called out Bateman and proved to be generally correct
Paul Kent I'm not so sure, I didn't like how he talked to Clint Newtown, very aggressive, didn't like it at all
I thought the way Paul Kent spoke to Clint Newton was downright disgraceful, completely lacking in any journalistic ethics.
I used to think Kent was alright.
Then I watched a replay of Wednesday night's NRL360... after switching the show off on Tuesday night, due to Hadley's carrying on, and the carrying on of others.
The way both Paul Kent and James Hooper interrupted, shouted down and talked down to Lara Pitt on Wednesday night was even worse than the behaviour on Tuesday night. Absolutely disgraceful. It sure looked a lot like bullying. The way Kent spoke to Daly Cherry-Evans was also completely unnecessary.
Hooper appears to have been generally correct on Bateman, and we shall see on Williams. But there's no need to behave like a bully boy schoolboy while you go about your job of being a reporter.
I've just about given up on NRL 360, and I generally respect Ben Ikin. But I was disturbed to see how he failed to step in and tell Kent and Hooper to let Lara Pitt have their say, and stop interrupting her.
GE I agree with regards to Lara Pitt. Every week on 360, at least once and often multiple times on a Wednesday night Hoops just cuts her off and talks over her. You can see in her body language that it rightfully pisses her off - she sits silent and waits - but you can see her internally steaming and rolling her eyes. Mansplaining at its worst and noting that Pitt is their only female commentator on this show it is bewildering and disturbing that Fox let it go on week after week.
Seeing this made me feel uncomfortable which reminded me of the last time I saw Lara Pitt in that chair and I remember thinking the same thing then.
The erraticness of what's acceptable and what's not in today's society is mind boggling.
afgtnk wrote: ↑June 4, 2021, 9:47 pm
If GE goes home then who does the forum fall back to? Sam Williams?
I’ve been out of the forum administrator game for a while
People have been saying how they don’t go to forums anymore because I’m not in it
But I just need a chance, one off season and it’s game over
afgtnk wrote: ↑June 4, 2021, 9:47 pm
If GE goes home then who does the forum fall back to? Sam Williams?
I’ve been out of the forum administrator game for a while
People have been saying how they don’t go to forums anymore because I’m not in it
But I just need a chance, one off season and it’s game over
Train and trial contract might be your ceiling.
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afgtnk wrote: ↑June 4, 2021, 9:47 pm
If GE goes home then who does the forum fall back to? Sam Williams?
I’ve been out of the forum administrator game for a while
People have been saying how they don’t go to forums anymore because I’m not in it
But I just need a chance, one off season and it’s game over
The comeback would be of Chris Sandow-esque proportions!
afgtnk wrote: ↑June 4, 2021, 9:47 pm
If GE goes home then who does the forum fall back to? Sam Williams?
I’ve been out of the forum administrator game for a while
People have been saying how they don’t go to forums anymore because I’m not in it
But I just need a chance, one off season and it’s game over
I haven't heard any 'people' saying that. Maybe Shadowboxer, but nobody else.
afgtnk wrote: ↑June 4, 2021, 9:47 pm
If GE goes home then who does the forum fall back to? Sam Williams?
I’ve been out of the forum administrator game for a while
People have been saying how they don’t go to forums anymore because I’m not in it
But I just need a chance, one off season and it’s game over
The comeback would be of Chris Sandow-esque proportions!
One off season
And when it happens, make the apology as loud as the disrespect 🗣🗣
afgtnk wrote: ↑June 4, 2021, 9:47 pm
If GE goes home then who does the forum fall back to? Sam Williams?
I’ve been out of the forum administrator game for a while
People have been saying how they don’t go to forums anymore because I’m not in it
But I just need a chance, one off season and it’s game over
The comeback would be of Chris Sandow-esque proportions!
One off season
And when it happens, make the apology as loud as the disrespect 🗣🗣
No disrespect, I'm all for the comeback. If they try to block you, you may need a Clive Palmer-type backer and threaten to sue everyone to make it happen though
afgtnk wrote: ↑June 4, 2021, 9:47 pm
If GE goes home then who does the forum fall back to? Sam Williams?
I’ve been out of the forum administrator game for a while
People have been saying how they don’t go to forums anymore because I’m not in it
But I just need a chance, one off season and it’s game over
The comeback would be of Chris Sandow-esque proportions!
One off season
And when it happens, make the apology as loud as the disrespect 🗣🗣
I'll happily return as admin with Ed.
Bring the old band back together, 2005-08 were clearly the GH glory years!
afgtnk wrote: ↑June 4, 2021, 9:47 pm
If GE goes home then who does the forum fall back to? Sam Williams?
I’ve been out of the forum administrator game for a while
People have been saying how they don’t go to forums anymore because I’m not in it
But I just need a chance, one off season and it’s game over
The comeback would be of Chris Sandow-esque proportions!
One off season
And when it happens, make the apology as loud as the disrespect
I'll happily return as admin with Ed.
Bring the old band back together, 2005-08 were clearly the GH glory years!
Canberra Milk wrote: ↑June 4, 2021, 12:26 pm
I like Hoops, ever since he called out Bateman and proved to be generally correct
Paul Kent I'm not so sure, I didn't like how he talked to Clint Newtown, very aggressive, didn't like it at all
I thought the way Paul Kent spoke to Clint Newton was downright disgraceful, completely lacking in any journalistic ethics.
I used to think Kent was alright.
Then I watched a replay of Wednesday night's NRL360... after switching the show off on Tuesday night, due to Hadley's carrying on, and the carrying on of others.
The way both Paul Kent and James Hooper interrupted, shouted down and talked down to Lara Pitt on Wednesday night was even worse than the behaviour on Tuesday night. Absolutely disgraceful. It sure looked a lot like bullying. The way Kent spoke to Daly Cherry-Evans was also completely unnecessary.
Hooper appears to have been generally correct on Bateman, and we shall see on Williams. But there's no need to behave like a bully boy schoolboy while you go about your job of being a reporter.
I've just about given up on NRL 360, and I generally respect Ben Ikin. But I was disturbed to see how he failed to step in and tell Kent and Hooper to let Lara Pitt have their say, and stop interrupting her.
GE I agree with regards to Lara Pitt. Every week on 360, at least once and often multiple times on a Wednesday night Hoops just cuts her off and talks over her. You can see in her body language that it rightfully pisses her off - she sits silent and waits - but you can see her internally steaming and rolling her eyes. Mansplaining at its worst and noting that Pitt is their only female commentator on this show it is bewildering and disturbing that Fox let it go on week after week.
Seeing this made me feel uncomfortable which reminded me of the last time I saw Lara Pitt in that chair and I remember thinking the same thing then.
The erraticness of what's acceptable and what's not in today's society is mind boggling.
You are what is wrong with the world.
You don't know me and I don't know you, I'm happy to keep it that way.