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Green2ooF wrote: July 28, 2021, 10:10 pm We should’ve thrown everything @ Hynes for the no.7 genuine future superstar who is a match winner!!
We couldn't offer him a beach unfortunately
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Green2ooF wrote: July 28, 2021, 10:10 pm We should’ve thrown everything @ Hynes for the no.7 genuine future superstar who is a match winner!!
Hynes at 7 is an interesting idea
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The jury would be very much out on Hynes at halfback imo. He's a great runner and passer/playmaker, but we've seen with Wighton/Luai/Cody Walker/plenty of others that that doesn't always translate into an organising half, far from it
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Admittedly Storm pulled it off with Jahrome Hughes. I still don't know how really. I think they have enough of a systematic attack to get away with it. And his kicking game is underrated
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Botman wrote: July 28, 2021, 10:22 pm
Green2ooF wrote: July 28, 2021, 10:10 pm We should’ve thrown everything @ Hynes for the no.7 genuine future superstar who is a match winner!!
Hynes at 7 is an interesting idea
Pretty sure he's going to Cronulla to play halfback
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Raiders_Pat wrote: July 28, 2021, 10:49 pm
Botman wrote: July 28, 2021, 10:22 pm
Green2ooF wrote: July 28, 2021, 10:10 pm We should’ve thrown everything @ Hynes for the no.7 genuine future superstar who is a match winner!!
Hynes at 7 is an interesting idea
Pretty sure he's going to Cronulla to play halfback
I was being a bit facetious
I floated on this very site that we should sign Dufty and Hynes with the idea of playing Hynes at halfback to replace Williams

Id have liked us to sign him but outside of that, im really glad someone signed him to play in the halves. Im VERY interested in seeing how he goes there
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Raiders_Pat wrote: July 28, 2021, 10:49 pm
Botman wrote: July 28, 2021, 10:22 pm
Green2ooF wrote: July 28, 2021, 10:10 pm We should’ve thrown everything @ Hynes for the no.7 genuine future superstar who is a match winner!!
Hynes at 7 is an interesting idea
Pretty sure he's going to Cronulla to play halfback
In the halves, yes, not sure about 7.
They are looking at other halves ATM. Even if they signed Delta Moylan
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Canberra Milk wrote: July 28, 2021, 10:48 pm The jury would be very much out on Hynes at halfback imo. He's a great runner and passer/playmaker, but we've seen with Wighton/Luai/Cody Walker/plenty of others that that doesn't always translate into an organising half, far from it
He does look like a 6 playing 1 at Storm. How he goes in a role closer to the action and less space is yet to be seen. As for playing as a traditional halfback I'm not so sure. Has the passing game for sure. Whether he has the organisational skills and tactical kicking game required of that position is untested.

All moot as he's off to the Sharks. This thread is about our next halfback. Not the shoulda, coulda, woulda thread.
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Canberra Milk wrote: July 28, 2021, 10:49 pm Admittedly Storm pulled it off with Jahrome Hughes. I still don't know how really. I think they have enough of a systematic attack to get away with it. And his kicking game is underrated
Hard work by both really. His kicking game is now a lot better but he's in such a dominant side he doesn't have to play like a proper halfback 95% of the time. There's not a heap of organizing to do and there's plenty of guys around him to take up a role when he needs to step back. He wouldn't be able to get to this point if he wasn't good enough but the system and team around him are also the perfect path for his development.
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Botman wrote: July 29, 2021, 7:59 am
Raiders_Pat wrote: July 28, 2021, 10:49 pm
Botman wrote: July 28, 2021, 10:22 pm
Green2ooF wrote: July 28, 2021, 10:10 pm We should’ve thrown everything @ Hynes for the no.7 genuine future superstar who is a match winner!!
Hynes at 7 is an interesting idea
Pretty sure he's going to Cronulla to play halfback
I was being a bit facetious
I floated on this very site that we should sign Dufty and Hynes with the idea of playing Hynes at halfback to replace Williams

Id have liked us to sign him but outside of that, im really glad someone signed him to play in the halves. Im VERY interested in seeing how he goes there
It's hard to know what happened behind the scenes but we really should have been a bit more aggressive in trying to get Hynes here. I'd be very surprised if he ends up a dud buy for the Sharks.
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zim wrote: July 29, 2021, 10:36 am
Canberra Milk wrote: July 28, 2021, 10:49 pm Admittedly Storm pulled it off with Jahrome Hughes. I still don't know how really. I think they have enough of a systematic attack to get away with it. And his kicking game is underrated
Hard work by both really. His kicking game is now a lot better but he's in such a dominant side he doesn't have to play like a proper halfback 95% of the time. There's not a heap of organizing to do and there's plenty of guys around him to take up a role when he needs to step back. He wouldn't be able to get to this point if he wasn't good enough but the system and team around him are also the perfect path for his development.
Thats an interesting point. Storm's consistent success under Bellamy is not so much about game plans and more about each person knowing their role and executing it. Means that they don't rely in individuals to run the show. It's an evolution from that days when Smith and Cronk were doing just that. They used to be heavily reliant on those key players making others around them better. They now have a lot of pieces are interchangeable. End result is injury, suspensions etc have had minimal impact on their results.
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Raiders_Pat wrote: July 29, 2021, 3:43 pm
Botman wrote: July 29, 2021, 7:59 am
Raiders_Pat wrote: July 28, 2021, 10:49 pm
Botman wrote: July 28, 2021, 10:22 pm
Green2ooF wrote: July 28, 2021, 10:10 pm We should’ve thrown everything @ Hynes for the no.7 genuine future superstar who is a match winner!!
Hynes at 7 is an interesting idea
Pretty sure he's going to Cronulla to play halfback
I was being a bit facetious
I floated on this very site that we should sign Dufty and Hynes with the idea of playing Hynes at halfback to replace Williams

Id have liked us to sign him but outside of that, im really glad someone signed him to play in the halves. Im VERY interested in seeing how he goes there
It's hard to know what happened behind the scenes but we really should have been a bit more aggressive in trying to get Hynes here. I'd be very surprised if he ends up a dud buy for the Sharks.
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Some Lex Luthor level land redevelopment? Bring the beach to canberra.
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Parramatta showing how crap they are without a halfback.

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Don Furner is on Raider Nick Podcast this week. When questioned about finding a new halfback he broadly stated that there are no realistic options available and they are focusing on developing a young half from within. We have a long road ahead........
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Does Don realise that to develop a player, you have to actually play them... Why hasn't Schneider given a proper shot at Firsts to see if he is up to it.
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I'll be **** if there's not a better young h/b that doesn't mind getting banged up and shows some leadership with ball playing ability running around somewhere in this country than Sam Williams, then I'm a monkeys uncle.
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And this country might as well go play soccer.
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Or netball
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Question wrote: August 5, 2021, 4:46 pm I'll be **** if there's not a better young h/b that doesn't mind getting banged up and shows some leadership with ball playing ability running around somewhere in this country than Sam Williams, then I'm a monkeys uncle.
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Not sure if this has been discussed earlier and cbf trawling through the thread, but does anyone think that it is worth giving Hodgson an actual crack at the HB spot?

Some of his touches at first receiver for mine don't look too bad, and playing one wide of the ruck kind of negates his tendency to stifle the play.

With Starling starting to impress me at hooker, Hodgson may need to reinvent himself if he wants to stay on anything close to his current deal (if at all) beyond 2022.

Doing that at HB may be just the tonic, especially seeing as the 2022 free market stocks for number 7s look as threadbare as they do.

He is 32 next year so not a long term solution, but as a medium term solution?

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The issue is he can't defend at all on the edges. He's legitimately worse than Williams out there, which is saying something... he just cant run with anyone with some speed. He's a witches hat, im afraid.
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If hodgo to 7 isn't the answer, the maybe benji Marshall or Flanagan might be.
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Neither is Flanagan... He sucks

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A 40yr old Benji is better than Flanagan, Brooks, our Sam and Frawley combined.
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I'd take Benji Barba (as that galoot Dave Smith called him) too - he won't come here though.
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Yeah Benji would fit in nicely - he organises really well this day.

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Gutherson is the best realistic spine option available on November 1. We should look at him, even as an option at 7. I'd only be keen if he agitated for an early release. If we keep Hodgson and have Whitehead transition to a ball playing 13 I can see Wighton and Gutherson working well. Others may disagree.
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Wiki Special wrote: August 9, 2021, 1:12 pm Gutherson is the best realistic spine option available on November 1. We should look at him, even as an option at 7. I'd only be keen if he agitated for an early release. If we keep Hodgson and have Whitehead transition to a ball playing 13 I can see Wighton and Gutherson working well. Others may disagree.
Not the worst idea but is Gutherson handy with the boot? We need to rely on our 7 to take on the majority of the kicking with Jack as our 6.
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Raiders_Pat wrote: August 9, 2021, 2:09 pm
Wiki Special wrote: August 9, 2021, 1:12 pm Gutherson is the best realistic spine option available on November 1. We should look at him, even as an option at 7. I'd only be keen if he agitated for an early release. If we keep Hodgson and have Whitehead transition to a ball playing 13 I can see Wighton and Gutherson working well. Others may disagree.
Not the worst idea but is Gutherson handy with the boot? We need to rely on our 7 to take on the majority of the kicking with Jack as our 6.
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It seems that Holbrook is of the belief that Sexton and Fogarty can’t exist in the same side as each other.

Could be worth investigating.
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So seems we have Ash Taylor on the super cheap?

Still think I would prefer Flanagan from the piss poor options that are out there.
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No mate. Flanagan, Croft, Sammy and Tom Dearden are the worst halfbacks in the comp from what I've seen this year.
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Hong Kong Raider wrote: August 9, 2021, 3:22 pm No mate. Flanagan, Croft, Sammy and Tom Dearden are the worst halfbacks in the comp from what I've seen this year.
....and I'd take Sam over the other 3.
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Just on people saying we should be looking speculatively at kids in lower grades at other clubs, Schneider was the halfback of the last winning national schoolboys team, Raiders won the SG Ball comp with Moala at 7.
Flegg barely played in 2 seasons, NSW cup barely played in 2 seasons.

Where are we finding these speculative signings?

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