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Re: Raiders won’t release Josh Hodgson to Brisbane Broncos

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gangrenous wrote: June 19, 2021, 5:39 pm Yeah, no he shouldn’t.

If he has a 3 year 1.5M deal on the table say, then he’s wagering a guaranteed 700k on top of his contract against MAYBE 800-900k if he keeps fit and form (note I’m being more generous than you signing him at 400-450)

Would you turn down 700 for what’s probably a 50/50 at best on bumping it to 800 or 900?

I wouldn’t.
i said significantly more than 350-400k per year.
Have a look at some of the starting hookers in the comp. No reason a fit hodgson can't demand 600k or more early next year
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Broncos can enjoy Hodgson's inability to do anything other than pass up the middle
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gangrenous wrote: June 19, 2021, 5:39 pm Yeah, no he shouldn’t.

If he has a 3 year 1.5M deal on the table say, then he’s wagering a guaranteed 700k on top of his contract against MAYBE 800-900k if he keeps fit and form (note I’m being more generous than you signing him at 400-450)

Would you turn down 700 for what’s probably a 50/50 at best on bumping it to 800 or 900?

I wouldn’t.
It's the opportunity loss too
If he doesnt go to Brisbane now, they'll find another option and that opportunity likely will not be there in 2023... He has to look around the league and figure out how many teams might be in the market for his services at 33 in 2023.
Im tipping the market will be very weak

It's not a strong market now, but he can cash in on a desperate coaching trying to save his job. The Raiders should simply tell him they're not paying a cent but will agree to a mutal release or will release him to the broncos if they take the full value. That's it. That's all we need to do and then it's up to Josh and his new club to figure out what to do from there
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Canberra Milk wrote: June 19, 2021, 7:33 pm Broncos can enjoy Hodgson's inability to do anything other than pass up the middle
Well. Typical Hodgo.

Set up a beautiful sleight of hand deception close ranger.

Then played one out hit ups all game or took it himself for **** on crucial plays.

Every time we got a turnover or broken play we ran 2 settlers straight away. Maybe dishing off 5m before the line to a forward makes a nice looking 10m run for the stats but you've just blown any chance of stretching the other teams back pedalling defence.

When Stuart played half he spread it after a turnover or break every time. Why do his teams play such conservative junk?

Saints were poor mostly but actually tried to play enterprising footy all game. They took some risks to score some points and eventually it paid off.

Raiders played 2019 get-in-the-grind-ball and looked completely outdated.

The new rules support playing footy, ball movement, attacking play, speed and adventurism. We don't.
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I’ll drive Hodgo to Canberra Airport myself
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We really don't have a spine guys. Put him with a proper 7 and 1 (with more than 2 games although i like what i see so far) and different story.
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benda wrote: June 20, 2021, 1:42 am We really don't have a spine guys. Put him with a proper 7 and 1 (with more than 2 games although i like what i see so far) and different story.
Been hearing that for years though and it's always the halfbacks fault...
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I don't think anything Don has said is controversial.

Hodgo himself would know he's not worth what he signed his last deal on, he's 2 ACLs and 4 years on from that

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BadnMean wrote: June 20, 2021, 9:39 am
benda wrote: June 20, 2021, 1:42 am We really don't have a spine guys. Put him with a proper 7 and 1 (with more than 2 games although i like what i see so far) and different story.
Been hearing that for years though and it's always the halfbacks fault...
Maybe its true.. sezer started coming good and we let him go. We got a backup 7 playing now.. GW didnt work out.

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Broncos brush Hodgson

The Brisbane Broncos have abandoned the club’s pursuit of England hooker Josh Hodgson as the Red Hill roster gets a multimillion-dollar overhaul.

The Broncos had been monitoring the Hodgson situation with the Canberra Raiders since the beginning of the season but the Green Machine no.9 now looks set to remain in the national capital.

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 044fa32e4c

It's James Hooper so who knows but hopefully he is on the money
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surely they throw everything at Brandon Smith

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Talk about mixed emotions, half of me is happy that the Broncs appear to have dropped away and half of me is questioning why the worst team in the competition isn’t interested in one of our better players…..
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Billy Walker wrote: July 2, 2021, 2:19 pm Talk about mixed emotions, half of me is happy that the Broncs appear to have dropped away and half of me is questioning why the worst team in the competition isn’t interested in one of our better players…..
The way the Broncos are going releasing players still under contract and having to pay some of their freight for years to come they are not going to have a full salary cap to pay players like Hodgson for years to come. It is being reported that they are going to pay $500K of Lodge's deal with the Warriors for the next three years. Broncos are going to be hamstrung by their cap the same way the Bulldogs have been for a long time.
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Botman wrote: June 19, 2021, 7:47 pm
gangrenous wrote: June 19, 2021, 5:39 pm Yeah, no he shouldn’t.

If he has a 3 year 1.5M deal on the table say, then he’s wagering a guaranteed 700k on top of his contract against MAYBE 800-900k if he keeps fit and form (note I’m being more generous than you signing him at 400-450)

Would you turn down 700 for what’s probably a 50/50 at best on bumping it to 800 or 900?

I wouldn’t.
It's the opportunity loss too
If he doesnt go to Brisbane now, they'll find another option and that opportunity likely will not be there in 2023... He has to look around the league and figure out how many teams might be in the market for his services at 33 in 2023.
Im tipping the market will be very weak

It's not a strong market now, but he can cash in on a desperate coaching trying to save his job. The Raiders should simply tell him they're not paying a cent but will agree to a mutal release or will release him to the broncos if they take the full value. That's it. That's all we need to do and then it's up to Josh and his new club to figure out what to do from there
if we dont have anyone better to fill the cap space, why bother releasing him?
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We'll see what happens in the off season
there is quite a few moving parts particularly for the broncos and their cap

Im fairly confident if they can make it work cap wise, there would be mutual interest... but if the Lodge deal is anything to go by, i think that's going to be a hard thing to achieve, and they probably know that now hence the report of them abandoning the idea of Hodgson
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The only thing I'd release to the Broncos would be coccobacillus bacterium
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Green Blogger wrote: July 2, 2021, 2:30 pm
Billy Walker wrote: July 2, 2021, 2:19 pm Talk about mixed emotions, half of me is happy that the Broncs appear to have dropped away and half of me is questioning why the worst team in the competition isn’t interested in one of our better players…..
The way the Broncos are going releasing players still under contract and having to pay some of their freight for years to come they are not going to have a full salary cap to pay players like Hodgson for years to come. It is being reported that they are going to pay $500K of Lodge's deal with the Warriors for the next three years. Broncos are going to be hamstrung by their cap the same way the Bulldogs have been for a long time.
Raiders should definitely have made a play for Lodge. Tip in $5k and get him to water and mow the training ground at Braddon. The bloke would have a job that mentality challenges him picking up $505k/year and the raiders get 3 years worth of greens keeping for $15k total - Bargain!

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bonehead wrote: July 2, 2021, 12:11 pm surely they throw everything at Brandon Smith

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Billy Walker wrote:
Green Blogger wrote: July 2, 2021, 2:30 pm
Billy Walker wrote: July 2, 2021, 2:19 pm Talk about mixed emotions, half of me is happy that the Broncs appear to have dropped away and half of me is questioning why the worst team in the competition isn’t interested in one of our better players…..
The way the Broncos are going releasing players still under contract and having to pay some of their freight for years to come they are not going to have a full salary cap to pay players like Hodgson for years to come. It is being reported that they are going to pay $500K of Lodge's deal with the Warriors for the next three years. Broncos are going to be hamstrung by their cap the same way the Bulldogs have been for a long time.
Raiders should definitely have made a play for Lodge. Tip in $5k and get him to water and mow the training ground at Braddon. The bloke would have a job that mentality challenges him picking up $505k/year and the raiders get 3 years worth of greens keeping for $15k total - Bargain!

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Interested if this is an Ikin decision. Seems to coincide with his appointment.

I’d say not, if these negotiations are happening months in advance
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Fuifui Bradbrad wrote: July 3, 2021, 10:34 am Interested if this is an Ikin decision. Seems to coincide with his appointment.
Actually true. It would have to be, you'd think

Ikin used to talk about Hodgson a fair bit though on NRL360 though, and how they needed to beef up / get quality and experience in their spine? If I remember correctly
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Northern Raider wrote: July 2, 2021, 10:07 pm
bonehead wrote: July 2, 2021, 12:11 pm surely they throw everything at Brandon Smith

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Re: Lodge, I thought I heard that Broncos went cold on releasing Lodge and Pangai, and I might be making this bit up but I also thought it had to do with the fact that they couldn't afford to be carrying big portions of their contracts.
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Canberra Milk wrote:
Fuifui Bradbrad wrote: July 3, 2021, 10:34 am Interested if this is an Ikin decision. Seems to coincide with his appointment.
Actually true. It would have to be, you'd think

Ikin used to talk about Hodgson a fair bit though on NRL360 though, and how they needed to beef up / get quality and experience in their spine? If I remember correctly
Yeah but just because he likes him and talks him up, doesn’t mean he thinks he’d be the right fit/price for a Broncs rebuild.

How much of the salary details would he have known on 360
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If the Broncos need a hooker who is going to waste half of their sets on early kicks then he is your man

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Another example of Hodgo trying to be clever with early kicks and running forwards up the middle… starling got on with 20 to go and everything instantly became more direct.

In this game at the moment, if your play isn’t fast and direct it’s irrelevant.
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Coastalraider wrote:Another example of Hodgo trying to be clever with early kicks and running forwards up the middle… starling got on with 20 to go and everything instantly became more direct.

In this game at the moment, if your play isn’t fast and direct it’s irrelevant.
Early kicks were game plan from the coach, for sure

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Only real option for rest of the year is Hodgo to half, Starling to 9 and Havili 14.
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Coastalraider wrote: July 4, 2021, 10:43 am Another example of Hodgo trying to be clever with early kicks and running forwards up the middle… starling got on with 20 to go and everything instantly became more direct.

In this game at the moment, if your play isn’t fast and direct it’s irrelevant.
That is 100% sticks tactic because the halves did it too
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Noobs wrote:Only real option for rest of the year is Hodgo to half, Starling to 9 and Havili 14.
Got to be tried.

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Noobs wrote:Only real option for rest of the year is Hodgo to half, Starling to 9 and Havili 14.
Or Schneider to 14

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Why would we play Havilli over Schneider?
Surely the remaining games are spent giving our youth experience and squeezing out players we don’t want in 2022.
Salvage something from this awful season.
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Perhaps a player swap deal will eventuate?
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Apparently there has been a rumour linking Josh Hodgson to the Wests Tigers... but the Tigers are denying it, according to The Canberra Times: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239
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