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Who will win?

Raiders 13+
2
15%
Raiders 1-12
3
23%
Draw
1
8%
Sharks 1-12
4
31%
Sharks 13+
3
23%
 
Total votes: 13

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Even though we are no chance of winning the premiership I would still like to be in the finals.
Perhaps the last two years have spoilt us.
Making the 8 would not cover the cracks of a busted team, and changes will still take place. Just want "that" finals feeling in such a dour year.
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1992 wrote: July 12, 2021, 6:16 pm Even though we are no chance of winning the premiership I would still like to be in the finals.
Perhaps the last two years have spoilt us.
Making the 8 would not cover the cracks of a busted team, and changes will still take place. Just want "that" finals feeling in such a dour year.
Raiders are 21-9 over the last two and a half years playing away and
14-16 playing at home.

$4 to make the 8.

It’s possible.
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1992 wrote: July 12, 2021, 6:16 pm Even though we are no chance of winning the premiership I would still like to be in the finals.
Perhaps the last two years have spoilt us.
Making the 8 would not cover the cracks of a busted team, and changes will still take place. Just want "that" finals feeling in such a dour year.
Agree we are no chance of winning the premiership, but was thinking the other day how strange it would feel if we did scape in the 8 and put a few wins together. Clearly it would be amazing to win another, but it would be an awesome happy ending on what otherwise has been an entirely terrible year to be a raiders supporter. In years to come when people ask what the 2021 premiership season was like it would be a very hard one to explain. A miserable season from hell that ended on the highest of high notes.
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I still think we’ll play finals..
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mick63 wrote: July 12, 2021, 7:26 pm
1992 wrote: July 12, 2021, 6:16 pm Even though we are no chance of winning the premiership I would still like to be in the finals.
Perhaps the last two years have spoilt us.
Making the 8 would not cover the cracks of a busted team, and changes will still take place. Just want "that" finals feeling in such a dour year.
Raiders are 21-9 over the last two and a half years playing away and
14-16 playing at home.

$4 to make the 8.

It’s possible.
Yeah, I was just thinking that this QLD bubble thing was just what the doctor ordered for our club.

Don't know what it is about our home form, but for a VERY long time we've played much better away than at home...maybe back to 2015.
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-PJ- wrote: July 13, 2021, 6:40 am I still think we’ll play finals..
We've got a very tough draw coming home. The Titans and Dragons losses cost us any chance IMO.
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Roger Kenworthy wrote: July 13, 2021, 8:12 am
-PJ- wrote: July 13, 2021, 6:40 am I still think we’ll play finals..
We've got a very tough draw coming home. The Titans and Dragons losses cost us any chance IMO.
Yep, we have well and truely crapped in our own nest..

But this 4 week holiday in the Goldie might work to our advantage.

The fortress wasn’t getting us many results was it ?
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-PJ- wrote: July 13, 2021, 8:20 am
Roger Kenworthy wrote: July 13, 2021, 8:12 am
-PJ- wrote: July 13, 2021, 6:40 am I still think we’ll play finals..
We've got a very tough draw coming home. The Titans and Dragons losses cost us any chance IMO.
Yep, we have well and truely crapped in our own nest..

But this 4 week holiday in the Goldie might work to our advantage.

The fortress wasn’t getting us many results was it ?
Difficulty of the draw depends on how team deal with the relocation. About the only games I'd write off are Melbourne and Manly (assuming Turbo plays). Wins are quite possible against Sharks, Knights, Dragons, Warriors and Roosters. Eels depends on which Eels team shows up.

We control our own destiny. If this team wants to make the finals they can.
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-PJ- wrote: July 13, 2021, 8:20 am
Roger Kenworthy wrote: July 13, 2021, 8:12 am
-PJ- wrote: July 13, 2021, 6:40 am I still think we’ll play finals..
We've got a very tough draw coming home. The Titans and Dragons losses cost us any chance IMO.
Yep, we have well and truely crapped in our own nest..

But this 4 week holiday in the Goldie might work to our advantage.

The fortress wasn’t getting us many results was it ?
Its almost like a good old Camp David isnt it?(extended version)
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:lol: Camp David..the good ole days
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I hope we don’t do the Viking Clap at these Queensland games. It would likely cheapen the value of our best public marketing tool.
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Seiffert82 wrote: July 13, 2021, 7:23 am
mick63 wrote: July 12, 2021, 7:26 pm
1992 wrote: July 12, 2021, 6:16 pm Even though we are no chance of winning the premiership I would still like to be in the finals.
Perhaps the last two years have spoilt us.
Making the 8 would not cover the cracks of a busted team, and changes will still take place. Just want "that" finals feeling in such a dour year.
Raiders are 21-9 over the last two and a half years playing away and
14-16 playing at home.

$4 to make the 8.

It’s possible.
Yeah, I was just thinking that this QLD bubble thing was just what the doctor ordered for our club.

Don't know what it is about our home form, but for a VERY long time we've played much better away than at home...maybe back to 2015.
It used to be a reliable guide to back Victorian horses moving up for the QLD carnival.Id put Canberra as a good place to leave over winter for warmer conditions.

It’s really on Rick to get the balance right.
Bring Starling on at the 20,of he doesn’t start.Hodgson to link/lock.

But the big call for mine is to bring Timoko to right centre,Kris to left centre.

Croker has been playing injured maybe,without confidence definitely and should have been bought back via reggies.
Leaving out Timoko is a wretched call and inhibits his progress.

This idea of doubling down on the mistake of Crokers four year deal with him starting is one of Ricks most pig headed plays.
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Northern Raider wrote: July 13, 2021, 9:52 am
-PJ- wrote: July 13, 2021, 8:20 am
Roger Kenworthy wrote: July 13, 2021, 8:12 am
-PJ- wrote: July 13, 2021, 6:40 am I still think we’ll play finals..
We've got a very tough draw coming home. The Titans and Dragons losses cost us any chance IMO.
Yep, we have well and truely crapped in our own nest..

But this 4 week holiday in the Goldie might work to our advantage.

The fortress wasn’t getting us many results was it ?
Difficulty of the draw depends on how team deal with the relocation. About the only games I'd write off are Melbourne and Manly (assuming Turbo plays). Wins are quite possible against Sharks, Knights, Dragons, Warriors and Roosters. Eels depends on which Eels team shows up.

We control our own destiny. If this team wants to make the finals they can.
We seem to have mental block against the Eels these days. It's so annoying when they have Moses and "King" Gutho strutting round like they're Sterlo and Kenny.
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Roger Kenworthy wrote: July 13, 2021, 12:18 pm
Northern Raider wrote: July 13, 2021, 9:52 am
-PJ- wrote: July 13, 2021, 8:20 am
Roger Kenworthy wrote: July 13, 2021, 8:12 am
-PJ- wrote: July 13, 2021, 6:40 am I still think we’ll play finals..
We've got a very tough draw coming home. The Titans and Dragons losses cost us any chance IMO.
Yep, we have well and truely crapped in our own nest..

But this 4 week holiday in the Goldie might work to our advantage.

The fortress wasn’t getting us many results was it ?
Difficulty of the draw depends on how team deal with the relocation. About the only games I'd write off are Melbourne and Manly (assuming Turbo plays). Wins are quite possible against Sharks, Knights, Dragons, Warriors and Roosters. Eels depends on which Eels team shows up.

We control our own destiny. If this team wants to make the finals they can.
We seem to have mental block against the Eels these days. It's so annoying when they have Moses and "King" Gutho strutting round like they're Sterlo and Kenny.
Yeah, I'd pencil it in as a loss. Although the Eels can put in some real stinkers. They've hardly left Sydney for the last 18 months so we'll see how the relocation affects them.
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If I see Moses do that sway one more time when he's kicking for goal, I will personally drive up to QLD, smash through any border barricades, and slap him silly.
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2021 Rd 18 NRL teams: Raiders V Sharks

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Canberra Raiders V Cronulla Sharks
Saturday 17 July, 5:30pm
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Radio: ABC, Mix 106.3, 2CC

The Canberra Raiders have named their squad for Saturday afternoon's match against the Cronulla Sharks. Josh Papalii and Jack Wighton have been named to return to the team following State of Origin on Wednesday night, replacing Dunamis Lui and Matt Frawley. Lui will miss two 2-3 weeks with a calf injury he sustained against the Sea Eagles in Round 17. Elliott Whitehead (shoulder) will miss one more match but is expected to be available in Round 19.

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Canberra Raiders

1. Xavier Savage
2. Semi Valemei
3. Jarrod Croker
4. Sebastian Kris
5. Jordan Rapana
6. Jack Wighton
7. Sam Williams
8. Josh Papalii
9. Josh Hodgson
10. Emre Guler
11. Corey Harawira-Naera
12. Hudson Young
13. Ryan Sutton

14. Tom Starling
15. Joseph Tapine
16. Iosia Soliola
17. Ryan James

18. Matthew Timoko
19. Trey Mooney
20. Matt Frawley
21. Harley Smith-Shields

Injury/Suspension

Elliott Whitehead, Shoulder (Rd 19)
Corey Horsburgh, Wrist (Rd 19-20)
Dunamis Lui, Calf (Rd 20-21)
Bailey Simonson, Toe (Rd 21-23)
Curtis Scott, Stood down (Indefinite)
Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad, Neck (Season)

Cronulla Sharks

1. Will Kennedy
2. Sione Katoa
3. Connor Tracey
4. Jesse Ramien
5. Ronaldo Mulitalo
6. Braydon Trindall
7. Shaun Johnson
8. Aiden Tolman
9. Blayke Brailey
10. Aaron Woods
11. Briton Nikora
12. Teig Wilton
13. Toby Rudolf

14. Marwene Hiroti
15.Siosfa Talakai
16. Jack Williams
17. Braden Hamlin-Uele

18. Billy Magoulias
19. Royce Hunt
20. Andrew Fifita
21. Luke Metcalf

Injury/Suspension

Josh Dugan, Isolation (Rd 18)
Matt Moylan, Calf (Rd 18)
Jackson Ferris, Foot (Rd 18)
Royce Hunt, Knee (Rd 18)
Franklin Pele, Foot (Rd 25)
Wade Graham, Knee (Indefinite)

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Referee: Grant Atkins
Touch judges: Kasey Badger, Drew Oultram
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Seriously can we give MTimoko a run ?

Other than that..I think we’ll win by plenty.
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I must have missed something. How did Sione Katoa not get charged for his shot on Sironen? I assume the crackdown is officially over now.
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The team with Croker and Sammy sucks - replace with Timoko and Matt Frawley
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Hong Kong Raider wrote: July 13, 2021, 4:05 pm The team with Croker and Sammy sucks - replace with Timoko and Matt Frawley
I second that but Ricky's responsiveness to reality is like watching a glacier melt, very, very slow!
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Green Taipan wrote: July 13, 2021, 4:32 pm
Hong Kong Raider wrote: July 13, 2021, 4:05 pm The team with Croker and Sammy sucks - replace with Timoko and Matt Frawley
I second that but Ricky's responsiveness to reality is like watching a glacier melt, very, very slow!
Thirded.

Very rough on Matt Frawley after an extremely controlled game.
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Here's hoping Xavier can get into the clear this week. Likely to be off a Hodgo pass or via some support play. I just want to see him slice through against an NRL defence. I expect the usual Shark grub plays against the young fella but that is all part of the learning experience.
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Canberra Raiders stars Jack Wighton and Josh Papalii to back up from Origin III against the Cronulla Sharks





Jack Wighton and Josh Papalii will make their way back into the Canberra Raiders squad in time for their first game at their new home in the Gold Coast.

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14280

Jarrod Croker considers himself one of the lucky Canberra Raiders players ahead of club's Gold Coast move

Jarrod Croker considers himself one of the lucky ones in the Canberra Raiders camp, with his wife Brittany and one-year-old son Rory able to drop everything and join him on the Gold Coast.

"We are quite lucky, Brittany hasn't gone back to work yet and Rory is in daycare but there's people out there who have got partners who are pregnant and partners who have just had kids, partners without kids who are working, so it's a lot harder for them," he said.

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Sammy and Frawly- not sure there's that much difference between the two.

Croker v Ramien could be interesting. He'll have done pretty well if he keeps him quiet.
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Mickey_Raider wrote: July 13, 2021, 4:38 pm
Green Taipan wrote: July 13, 2021, 4:32 pm
Hong Kong Raider wrote: July 13, 2021, 4:05 pm The team with Croker and Sammy sucks - replace with Timoko and Matt Frawley
I second that but Ricky's responsiveness to reality is like watching a glacier melt, very, very slow!
Thirded.

Very rough on Matt Frawley after an extremely controlled game.
Fourthed - I thought the article about Jarrod considering himself lucky was possibly some good self reflection but turns out it was not about selections.
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Fifthed

Hand Matt Frawley a Taumalolo contract, the captaincy, Dally M, Clive Churchill, and Nobel prize after that three FDO, two seven tackle set performance which carried us to victory.
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afgtnk wrote: July 13, 2021, 5:56 pm Fifthed

Hand Matt Frawley a Taumalolo contract, the captaincy, Dally M, Clive Churchill, and Nobel prize after that three FDO, two seven tackle set performance which carried us to victory.
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afgtnk wrote: July 13, 2021, 5:56 pm Fifthed

Hand Matt Frawley a Taumalolo contract, the captaincy, Dally M, Clive Churchill, and Nobel prize after that three FDO, two seven tackle set performance which carried us to victory.
Calm down, alphabet. I don't think anyone is saying that Frawley's that good - just that he's better than Sammy, esp. defensively. Everyone knows Frawley's limitations but he's the best option in this situation.
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The spot is Crokers to lose, he's earned that, and could have quite possibly lost it had he not been injured. If he keeps going the way he is he will lose it eventually

I can see kris bring dropped before him at the moment though

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1992 wrote: July 12, 2021, 6:16 pm Even though we are no chance of winning the premiership I would still like to be in the finals.
Perhaps the last two years have spoilt us.
Making the 8 would not cover the cracks of a busted team, and changes will still take place. Just want "that" finals feeling in such a dour year.
I dont wish for us to make the finals by fielding a side that isnt developing. Thats my opinion.

Id rather put players in that are going to get experience.. in a measured and controlled environment with no expectations.

We need to get back to being a premiership force ASAP. Thats the reason we sacked Furner as coach.
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VictorTheViking wrote: July 13, 2021, 6:31 pm The spot is Crokers to lose, he's earned that, and could have quite possibly lost it had he not been injured. If he keeps going the way he is he will lose it eventually

I can see kris bring dropped before him at the moment though

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Hong Kong Raider wrote: July 13, 2021, 6:14 pm
afgtnk wrote: July 13, 2021, 5:56 pm Fifthed

Hand Matt Frawley a Taumalolo contract, the captaincy, Dally M, Clive Churchill, and Nobel prize after that three FDO, two seven tackle set performance which carried us to victory.
Calm down, alphabet. I don't think anyone is saying that Frawley's that good - just that he's better than Sammy, esp. defensively. Everyone knows Frawley's limitations but he's the best option in this situation.
Forget about it. You cant meaningfully engage with anyone pulling out that sort of nonsense.

I'd have had Frawley and Timoko in the side but the simple reality is Williams and Croker are two of Stuarts very favourites. They're not going anywhere this season, irrespective of their level of play.
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I fully expect Shaun Johnson to blitz us and then during a post game interview make some sort of comment about how much of a **** hole Canberra is and how happy he is to play the game on the Gold Coast. And everybody will lose their minds.

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Billy Walker wrote: July 13, 2021, 5:46 pm
Mickey_Raider wrote: July 13, 2021, 4:38 pm
Green Taipan wrote: July 13, 2021, 4:32 pm
Hong Kong Raider wrote: July 13, 2021, 4:05 pm The team with Croker and Sammy sucks - replace with Timoko and Matt Frawley
I second that but Ricky's responsiveness to reality is like watching a glacier melt, very, very slow!
Thirded.

Very rough on Matt Frawley after an extremely controlled game.
Fourthed - I thought the article about Jarrod considering himself lucky was possibly some good self reflection but turns out it was not about selections.
afgtnk wrote: July 13, 2021, 5:56 pm Fifthed

Hand Matt Frawley a Taumalolo contract, the captaincy, Dally M, Clive Churchill, and Nobel prize after that three FDO, two seven tackle set performance which carried us to victory.
Five and a halfed (yes, I know that's not a word). Okay with Sam at halfback. Unhappy Timoko isn't getting a start.

It's the entertainment business. I'd be interested in tuning in with Timoko in the centres. With the other blokes, not so much.
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Sleek the Elite wrote: July 13, 2021, 7:53 pm
Billy Walker wrote: July 13, 2021, 5:46 pm
Mickey_Raider wrote: July 13, 2021, 4:38 pm
Green Taipan wrote: July 13, 2021, 4:32 pm
Hong Kong Raider wrote: July 13, 2021, 4:05 pm The team with Croker and Sammy sucks - replace with Timoko and Matt Frawley
I second that but Ricky's responsiveness to reality is like watching a glacier melt, very, very slow!
Thirded.

Very rough on Matt Frawley after an extremely controlled game.
Fourthed - I thought the article about Jarrod considering himself lucky was possibly some good self reflection but turns out it was not about selections.
afgtnk wrote: July 13, 2021, 5:56 pm Fifthed

Hand Matt Frawley a Taumalolo contract, the captaincy, Dally M, Clive Churchill, and Nobel prize after that three FDO, two seven tackle set performance which carried us to victory.
Five and a halfed (yes, I know that's not a word). Okay with Sam at halfback. Unhappy Timoko isn't getting a start.

It's the entertainment business. I'd be interested in tuning in with Timoko in the centres. With the other blokes, not so much.
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Our style of play is mind-numbingly dull (and most weeks sees us get smashed). Yet Rick keeps turning out the same spuds?

Zero interest in watching Croker making 1m hitups and failing to lay a hand on Ramien all day - he has to go
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