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Vaughan will be spewing he's missing the big party up the Gold Coast.
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Billy Walker wrote: July 11, 2021, 8:41 pm
Schifty wrote: July 11, 2021, 8:34 pm So the Dragons players have to complete their suspensions on the Gold Coast.

Also I wonder who draws the short straw and has to share a hotel with the Sharks.
Something tonight about Lomax and one other dragon player not wanting to fill out what sounded like pretty stock standard forms
I think it was more than they were unwilling to sign forms that they new to be false - ie they were not prepared to back up the other players' stories at the risk of perjury.
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T_R wrote: July 11, 2021, 9:48 pm
Billy Walker wrote: July 11, 2021, 8:41 pm
Schifty wrote: July 11, 2021, 8:34 pm So the Dragons players have to complete their suspensions on the Gold Coast.

Also I wonder who draws the short straw and has to share a hotel with the Sharks.
Something tonight about Lomax and one other dragon player not wanting to fill out what sounded like pretty stock standard forms
I think it was more than they were unwilling to sign forms that they new to be false - ie they were not prepared to back up the other players' stories at the risk of perjury.
Don’t they need to sign them to join the bubble?
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Billy Walker wrote: July 11, 2021, 9:53 pm
T_R wrote: July 11, 2021, 9:48 pm
Billy Walker wrote: July 11, 2021, 8:41 pm
Schifty wrote: July 11, 2021, 8:34 pm So the Dragons players have to complete their suspensions on the Gold Coast.

Also I wonder who draws the short straw and has to share a hotel with the Sharks.
Something tonight about Lomax and one other dragon player not wanting to fill out what sounded like pretty stock standard forms
I think it was more than they were unwilling to sign forms that they new to be false - ie they were not prepared to back up the other players' stories at the risk of perjury.
Don’t they need to sign them to join the bubble?
I think the club has said that, yes. So, they have a problem. They're being asked to sign declarations they believe to be false, but can't resume work until they do.

Pretty much the definition of 'messy'.
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BJ wrote: July 11, 2021, 2:55 pm So the NRL is moving the Raiders out of a location that hasn’t had a single case of Covid in over a year to an area with higher cases.
I suspect it's because like most other states, they think it's only a matter of time before it spreads here.
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myanonymoususername wrote: July 11, 2021, 10:35 pm
BJ wrote: July 11, 2021, 2:55 pm So the NRL is moving the Raiders out of a location that hasn’t had a single case of Covid in over a year to an area with higher cases.
I suspect it's because like most other states, they think it's only a matter of time before it spreads here.
It is more likely the issue of potential border closures.
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greeneyed wrote:
myanonymoususername wrote: July 11, 2021, 10:35 pm
BJ wrote: July 11, 2021, 2:55 pm So the NRL is moving the Raiders out of a location that hasn’t had a single case of Covid in over a year to an area with higher cases.
I suspect it's because like most other states, they think it's only a matter of time before it spreads here.
It is more likely the issue of potential border closures.
It’s 100% about the travel and boarder closures, location location.
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Yep, they’ll also want teams close together in the same state in case things spiral out of control and they need to move to a bubble again
Easier to do that if everyone is in the same state
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Read a report the QLD government might block crowds out for the games. Makes zero sense considering you can get tickets for Titans and Broncos home games against Sydney teams.
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Everything you need to know about NRL relocation: https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/07/12/eve ... elocation/
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Dr Zaius wrote: July 11, 2021, 6:29 pm No doubt that the people of Sydney are under considerable stress at the moment. Worried about their health, their loved ones, their income and schooling their children.

Tarring a city of 5 million with the indiscretions of a minority is probably not helpful for them. It wasn't fair to Melbournians, and it's not fair to Sydneysiders.
Well said.

There has been complacency among some and unfortunately we've seen what that can do.

If everybody does the right thing re the guidelines and getting vaccinated we will be able to look at this in the rear view mirror.

Until then this will be ongoing.

These lockdowns are tough. I can only speak for myself but it does have an impact on mental health.
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hrundi89 wrote: July 12, 2021, 11:30 am
Dr Zaius wrote: July 11, 2021, 6:29 pm No doubt that the people of Sydney are under considerable stress at the moment. Worried about their health, their loved ones, their income and schooling their children.

Tarring a city of 5 million with the indiscretions of a minority is probably not helpful for them. It wasn't fair to Melbournians, and it's not fair to Sydneysiders.
Well said.

There has been complacency among some and unfortunately we've seen what that can do.

If everybody does the right thing re the guidelines and getting vaccinated we will be able to look at this in the rear view mirror.

Until then this will be ongoing.

These lockdowns are tough. I can only speak for myself but it does have an impact on mental health.
If the vaccination target is 80% before things can go back to "normal" then this will be ongoing for several years. We need to approach this differently.
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hrundi89 wrote:
Dr Zaius wrote: July 11, 2021, 6:29 pm No doubt that the people of Sydney are under considerable stress at the moment. Worried about their health, their loved ones, their income and schooling their children.

Tarring a city of 5 million with the indiscretions of a minority is probably not helpful for them. It wasn't fair to Melbournians, and it's not fair to Sydneysiders.
Well said.

There has been complacency among some and unfortunately we've seen what that can do.

If everybody does the right thing re the guidelines and getting vaccinated we will be able to look at this in the rear view mirror.

Until then this will be ongoing.

These lockdowns are tough. I can only speak for myself but it does have an impact on mental health.
I'm confused, cat said there was no complacency?

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-TW- wrote: July 12, 2021, 12:31 pm
hrundi89 wrote:
Dr Zaius wrote: July 11, 2021, 6:29 pm No doubt that the people of Sydney are under considerable stress at the moment. Worried about their health, their loved ones, their income and schooling their children.

Tarring a city of 5 million with the indiscretions of a minority is probably not helpful for them. It wasn't fair to Melbournians, and it's not fair to Sydneysiders.
Well said.

There has been complacency among some and unfortunately we've seen what that can do.

If everybody does the right thing re the guidelines and getting vaccinated we will be able to look at this in the rear view mirror.

Until then this will be ongoing.

These lockdowns are tough. I can only speak for myself but it does have an impact on mental health.
I'm confused, cat said there was no complacency?

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Sydney as a whole hasn't been complacent. The people in Bondi who kicked this off clearly were. It shows clearly that it doesn't take much to turn 10 into 400.
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There are people everywhere (not just Sydney) who simply have their heads up their arses about how to behave.

At my local Woolies the other day and they were stringent about ensuring customers were masked and had checked in.

There was one young woman walking around inside with her scarf loosely around her mouth (which later wasn't up at all), and there was a Woolies employee at the checkout without a mask at all.

My in-laws are anti-vax and mask. Yet they're the first ones to complain about being put out by the lockdown.

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Raiders_Pat wrote: July 12, 2021, 12:18 pm
hrundi89 wrote: July 12, 2021, 11:30 am
Dr Zaius wrote: July 11, 2021, 6:29 pm No doubt that the people of Sydney are under considerable stress at the moment. Worried about their health, their loved ones, their income and schooling their children.

Tarring a city of 5 million with the indiscretions of a minority is probably not helpful for them. It wasn't fair to Melbournians, and it's not fair to Sydneysiders.
Well said.

There has been complacency among some and unfortunately we've seen what that can do.

If everybody does the right thing re the guidelines and getting vaccinated we will be able to look at this in the rear view mirror.

Until then this will be ongoing.

These lockdowns are tough. I can only speak for myself but it does have an impact on mental health.
If the vaccination target is 80% before things can go back to "normal" then this will be ongoing for several years. We need to approach this differently.
We shouldn't be setting a % when you cannot force people into receiving the vaccine. Dan Andrews made a statement recently that is a better way to go. It was along the lines of getting back to normal when everybody has had the opportunity to be vaccinated.
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It should be a proportion of the population vs the available health capacity

Are they able to manage a surge in non vaccinated illness when a proportion of the population is fully vaccinated

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Northern Raider wrote: July 12, 2021, 1:00 pm
Raiders_Pat wrote: July 12, 2021, 12:18 pm
hrundi89 wrote: July 12, 2021, 11:30 am
Dr Zaius wrote: July 11, 2021, 6:29 pm No doubt that the people of Sydney are under considerable stress at the moment. Worried about their health, their loved ones, their income and schooling their children.

Tarring a city of 5 million with the indiscretions of a minority is probably not helpful for them. It wasn't fair to Melbournians, and it's not fair to Sydneysiders.
Well said.

There has been complacency among some and unfortunately we've seen what that can do.

If everybody does the right thing re the guidelines and getting vaccinated we will be able to look at this in the rear view mirror.

Until then this will be ongoing.

These lockdowns are tough. I can only speak for myself but it does have an impact on mental health.
If the vaccination target is 80% before things can go back to "normal" then this will be ongoing for several years. We need to approach this differently.
We shouldn't be setting a % when you cannot force people into receiving the vaccine. Dan Andrews made a statement recently that is a better way to go. It was along the lines of getting back to normal when everybody has had the opportunity to be vaccinated.
That's what I'm getting at... We've gone as far as we can as far as preventing this. It's a respiratory illness and needs to be treated as such. Now that the vaccine is available and we've found out that lockdowns have a detrimental effect on society, we should be going back to "normal" immediately. We're not an authoritarian society where we can enforce these draconian restrictions with force and nor should we be evolving into one.
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Raiders_Pat wrote: July 12, 2021, 1:07 pm
Northern Raider wrote: July 12, 2021, 1:00 pm
Raiders_Pat wrote: July 12, 2021, 12:18 pm
hrundi89 wrote: July 12, 2021, 11:30 am
Dr Zaius wrote: July 11, 2021, 6:29 pm No doubt that the people of Sydney are under considerable stress at the moment. Worried about their health, their loved ones, their income and schooling their children.

Tarring a city of 5 million with the indiscretions of a minority is probably not helpful for them. It wasn't fair to Melbournians, and it's not fair to Sydneysiders.
Well said.

There has been complacency among some and unfortunately we've seen what that can do.

If everybody does the right thing re the guidelines and getting vaccinated we will be able to look at this in the rear view mirror.

Until then this will be ongoing.

These lockdowns are tough. I can only speak for myself but it does have an impact on mental health.
If the vaccination target is 80% before things can go back to "normal" then this will be ongoing for several years. We need to approach this differently.
We shouldn't be setting a % when you cannot force people into receiving the vaccine. Dan Andrews made a statement recently that is a better way to go. It was along the lines of getting back to normal when everybody has had the opportunity to be vaccinated.
That's what I'm getting at... We've gone as far as we can as far as preventing this. It's a respiratory illness and needs to be treated as such. Now that the vaccine is available and we've found out that lockdowns have a detrimental effect on society, we should be going back to "normal" immediately. We're not an authoritarian society where we can enforce these draconian restrictions with force and nor should we be evolving into one.
You don’t think it might be a good idea to put the brakes of this killer virus until everyone who might want the vaccine has had the opportunity to get it?
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hrundi89 wrote: July 12, 2021, 12:54 pm
-TW- wrote: July 12, 2021, 12:31 pm
hrundi89 wrote:
Dr Zaius wrote: July 11, 2021, 6:29 pm No doubt that the people of Sydney are under considerable stress at the moment. Worried about their health, their loved ones, their income and schooling their children.

Tarring a city of 5 million with the indiscretions of a minority is probably not helpful for them. It wasn't fair to Melbournians, and it's not fair to Sydneysiders.
Well said.

There has been complacency among some and unfortunately we've seen what that can do.

If everybody does the right thing re the guidelines and getting vaccinated we will be able to look at this in the rear view mirror.

Until then this will be ongoing.

These lockdowns are tough. I can only speak for myself but it does have an impact on mental health.
I'm confused, cat said there was no complacency?

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Sydney as a whole hasn't been complacent. The people in Bondi who kicked this off clearly were. It shows clearly that it doesn't take much to turn 10 into 400.
If that were true it would be circulating around Bondi with little to no ability to spread among the rest of the diligent and vigilant population. I’m sure some people in Sydney are doing the right thing and I am genuinely appreciative of them the same way I am grateful for the massive sacrifices the good folks in Melbourne have made for the nation. I just can’t see this outbreak being rounded up.
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Back on topic. Raiders will be based on the Gold Coast along with Eels, Warriors, Dogs and Bunnies. Assume that means our next 2 games will be there. Knights are on Sunshine Coast so we might be playing there in round 20.

Revealed - the bubble plan for every team as NRL scrambles to avoid $25m disaster

The 12 relocated teams have been split amongst three hubs consisting of five, four and three teams divided amongst the Sunshine Coast, Gold Coast and Brisbane.

The Sydney Morning Herald’s Michael Chammas reported the Eels, Bulldogs, Rabbitohs, Raiders and Warriors will be based on the Gold Coast. Meanwhile the Panthers, Knights, Roosters and Sea Eagles will be on the Sunshine Coast, while the Dragons, Sharks and Tigers will train and live in Brisbane.

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 560ebd02d2

Zero cases: Canberra Raiders seek ACT-Queensland travel leniency

With travel between the ACT and Queensland still permitted, the Raiders are set to explore the possibility of being allowed to send their players back and forward over the next month.

"It was a bit of a shock because I thought we were safe. Canberra is safe. The ACT government and people of Canberra have done a fantastic job in containing any spread. Unfortunately we got tagged in by the Victorian government as a red zone and that changed everything," Raiders CEO Don Furner said.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/07/12/zer ... -leniency/

VIDEO: Don Furner: We're working with players and staff on relocating: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2021/07 ... elocating/

Raiders to be part of NRL hub at Mercure Carrara on the Gold Coast: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14280

VIDEO: Abdo explains relocation of 12 clubs to Queensland: https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/07/12/abd ... ueensland/
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Mercure Cararra looks pretty good: https://www.mercuregoldcoastresort.com.au/
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hrundi89 wrote: July 12, 2021, 12:54 pm
-TW- wrote: July 12, 2021, 12:31 pm
hrundi89 wrote:
Dr Zaius wrote: July 11, 2021, 6:29 pm No doubt that the people of Sydney are under considerable stress at the moment. Worried about their health, their loved ones, their income and schooling their children.

Tarring a city of 5 million with the indiscretions of a minority is probably not helpful for them. It wasn't fair to Melbournians, and it's not fair to Sydneysiders.
Well said.

There has been complacency among some and unfortunately we've seen what that can do.

If everybody does the right thing re the guidelines and getting vaccinated we will be able to look at this in the rear view mirror.

Until then this will be ongoing.

These lockdowns are tough. I can only speak for myself but it does have an impact on mental health.
I'm confused, cat said there was no complacency?

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Sydney as a whole hasn't been complacent. The people in Bondi who kicked this off clearly were. It shows clearly that it doesn't take much to turn 10 into 400.
Wrong.
I happen to be best friends with one of the first infected in Bondi by patient zero.
Basically, his wife was working in retail (David Jones) when the infamous Limo driver went past her section..
Few days later, they were both unwell and self isolated. They took the test and indeed they had the virus...
They were in the original cluster of 10 or so...
They live in Bondi and were nothing more than victims of circumstances...
The **** up belongs to government for not insisting on front line workers being vaccinated and not having a quarantine facility (using hotels for an air born virus)..
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...and here's be thinking it was because some dude in Wuhan ate a bat.
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I appreciate what Don is trying to do, but I don't see the border situation staying that way. We know that the last time states closed borders to NSW but not the ACT, selfish Sydney jerks sneaked into Canberra to fly to the closed states and get around the closures. I don't doubt it will happen again, just look at the number of Sydneyjerks they had to kick out on the very first weekend - and that was just the ones they knew about. More have been caught since.

And after seeing the way Sydney carried on towards Melbourne last year, I have no compunction in laying the boot in on this occasion, especially since their stupidity increases our risk. They called him Dictator Dan for doing what needed doing; no Butcher Berejiklian headlines of course, despite her movements being governed solely by selfish political pride with no consideration for the people who elected her to SERVE them.
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Can we have a comp to guess the first player in the NRL to get kicked out of QLD for a bubble breach?

I'm picking Dugan.
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Re: Canberra Raiders relocated to Gold Coast due to COVID

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raiderskater wrote:I appreciate what Don is trying to do, but I don't see the border situation staying that way. We know that the last time states closed borders to NSW but not the ACT, selfish Sydney jerks sneaked into Canberra to fly to the closed states and get around the closures. I don't doubt it will happen again, just look at the number of Sydneyjerks they had to kick out on the very first weekend - and that was just the ones they knew about. More have been caught since.

And after seeing the way Sydney carried on towards Melbourne last year, I have no compunction in laying the boot in on this occasion, especially since their stupidity increases our risk. They called him Dictator Dan for doing what needed doing; no Butcher Berejiklian headlines of course, despite her movements being governed solely by selfish political pride with no consideration for the people who elected her to SERVE them.
Great work generalising about 5 million people
Bravo.
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Re: NRL considers moving all 16 teams to southeast Queensland as early as Round 18

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Northern Raider wrote:
Raiders_Pat wrote: July 12, 2021, 12:18 pm
hrundi89 wrote: July 12, 2021, 11:30 am
Dr Zaius wrote: July 11, 2021, 6:29 pm No doubt that the people of Sydney are under considerable stress at the moment. Worried about their health, their loved ones, their income and schooling their children.

Tarring a city of 5 million with the indiscretions of a minority is probably not helpful for them. It wasn't fair to Melbournians, and it's not fair to Sydneysiders.
Well said.

There has been complacency among some and unfortunately we've seen what that can do.

If everybody does the right thing re the guidelines and getting vaccinated we will be able to look at this in the rear view mirror.

Until then this will be ongoing.

These lockdowns are tough. I can only speak for myself but it does have an impact on mental health.
If the vaccination target is 80% before things can go back to "normal" then this will be ongoing for several years. We need to approach this differently.
We shouldn't be setting a % when you cannot force people into receiving the vaccine. Dan Andrews made a statement recently that is a better way to go. It was along the lines of getting back to normal when everybody has had the opportunity to be vaccinated.
That's ultimately where it will end up, unfortunately it doesn't take into account those that can't be vaccinated.

Australians are overwhelmingly provax. I don't doubt that 80% achievable once more palatable vaccines are available, provided they sort out the delivery logistics.
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Re: Canberra Raiders relocated to Gold Coast due to COVID

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Schifty wrote: July 12, 2021, 7:54 pm Can we have a comp to guess the first player in the NRL to get kicked out of QLD for a bubble breach?

I'm picking Dugan.
They said on NRL Tonight that the Sharks aren't even going to take him.
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Re: Canberra Raiders relocated to Gold Coast due to COVID

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greeneyed wrote: July 12, 2021, 8:43 pm
Schifty wrote: July 12, 2021, 7:54 pm Can we have a comp to guess the first player in the NRL to get kicked out of QLD for a bubble breach?

I'm picking Dugan.
They said on NRL Tonight that the Sharks aren't even going to take him.
****... that's telling :lol:
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Re: Canberra Raiders relocated to Gold Coast due to COVID

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greeneyed wrote: July 12, 2021, 8:43 pm
Schifty wrote: July 12, 2021, 7:54 pm Can we have a comp to guess the first player in the NRL to get kicked out of QLD for a bubble breach?

I'm picking Dugan.
They said on NRL Tonight that the Sharks aren't even going to take him.
Hope you didn't outlay your bet already Schifty. :lol:
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