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Canberra Raiders eye Paulo and Brown

Parramatta stars Dylan Brown and Junior Paulo are being courted by the Canberra Raiders. The Daily Telegraph understands Canberra has engaged in internal discussions about lodging big money offers to Brown and Paulo, who can be formally approached by rival clubs from November 1.

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Wouldn’t mind Paulo for some ball playing ability in the middle third but doubt he’d want to come back to the raiders
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It’s funny, I asked Junior why he was leaving at a members function when he had signed with Parra cause I thought he wanted out of Sydney and he said Salary Cap issues had to free up some space for the club but said he would return to Canberra after his contract. But I thought he was taking the piss


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Junior certainly had a lot of time for the Raiders fans. I always found him to be a good bloke.
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Junior is a terrific bloke and actually told me he sees himself back in raiders colours one day.
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Surprising that we would release to the media our internal discussions, when we are only considering making an offer. We are probably aiming to get some of their other players. I wouldn't mind having another Papa in our team, and he's played better than our current second rowers.

I'm for both joining at the right price as our team would improve. Getting another rep level prop is strange as it comes with the price tag as that's the one area I think we are strong on.
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Do we really need Paulo?

I think if there is one position we are pretty OK on it is the prop rotation. Unless Tapine's mrs has had enough and would like to coach elsewhere.
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Brown has got one try assist all year. Then Moses being injured exposed him all the more - he can't playmake. He's the wrong guy
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Mickey_Raider wrote: August 6, 2021, 10:04 am Do we really need Paulo?
Yes. We need a good ball playing 5/8.

Am I being sarcastic? Or serious? Or both? Sarcirious? Seritastic?
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What's Paulo going to be potentially on? And why do we need to adding middles to our football team?
Dont mind the player but just not a requirement for this team

As for Brown... we need someone who can use the football... we have ball runners. We have them coming out of our ****. Up and down the roster we have ball runners... We need someone who can actually read the defence and make the correct pass. I know that's hard to find, but thats what we need and Brown isnt that
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Mickey_Raider wrote: August 6, 2021, 10:04 am Do we really need Paulo?

I think if there is one position we are pretty OK on it is the prop rotation. Unless Tapine's mrs has had enough and would like to coach elsewhere.
That's what I thought. As you suggest though, it may be around future roster move e.g. letting Tapine go. Looking forward we may need to shore up this position if that's the case. Sia also likely to retire. James probably moved on. Hors has struggled this year and often injured. Guler is OK without being a top liner. Not sure we have anyone else coming through the ranks. Paulo's presence could be a nice upgrade to support our most bankable guys like Paps and Sutton.
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Canberra Milk wrote: August 6, 2021, 10:04 am Brown has got one try assist all year. Then Moses being injured exposed him all the more - he can't playmake. He's the wrong guy
Brown is a poor man's Wighton.
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Botman wrote: August 6, 2021, 10:24 am As for Brown... we need someone who can use the football... we have ball runners. We have them coming out of our ****. Up and down the roster we have ball runners... We need someone who can actually read the defence and make the correct pass. I know that's hard to find, but thats what we need and Brown isnt that
Yep. I thought I read Mullholland's message about still looking in England those weeks ago as him using it as a solution for the defence reading/passing/structure issue (i.e. even looking at English Rugby for talent), but then Don Jr appears to have shot that to pieces saying they are developing a young halfback (which we can safely assume is Schneider).
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Lamenting Actions wrote:
Botman wrote: August 6, 2021, 10:24 am As for Brown... we need someone who can use the football... we have ball runners. We have them coming out of our ****. Up and down the roster we have ball runners... We need someone who can actually read the defence and make the correct pass. I know that's hard to find, but thats what we need and Brown isnt that
Yep. I thought I read Mullholland's message about still looking in England those weeks ago as him using it as a solution for the defence reading/passing/structure issue (i.e. even looking at English Rugby for talent), but then Don Jr appears to have shot that to pieces saying they are developing a young halfback (which we can safely assume is Schneider).
he's talking about Sam Williams, we've been developing him for 10yrs it's coming home to roost now

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Botman wrote: August 6, 2021, 10:24 am What's Paulo going to be potentially on? And why do we need to adding middles to our football team?
Dont mind the player but just not a requirement for this team

As for Brown... we need someone who can use the football... we have ball runners. We have them coming out of our ****. Up and down the roster we have ball runners... We need someone who can actually read the defence and make the correct pass. I know that's hard to find, but thats what we need and Brown isnt that
+1 for me on this. Fit Paulo is good player, chubby Paulo will struggle with the new game - we aren’t desperate for either I wouldn’t have thought.

Brown - again…..

Could use a ball player or two.
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Botman wrote: August 6, 2021, 10:24 am What's Paulo going to be potentially on? And why do we need to adding middles to our football team?
Dont mind the player but just not a requirement for this team

As for Brown... we need someone who can use the football... we have ball runners. We have them coming out of our ****. Up and down the roster we have ball runners... We need someone who can actually read the defence and make the correct pass. I know that's hard to find, but thats what we need and Brown isnt that
Can Papa only play every 2nd game next yr?

Are we trading him or Tapine?

Have we decided that with Hodgo at 13 for long periods we can't have workhorse middles, we need impact ones?

As for Brown. I'm with you. We don't need a 2nd running half. We need an organiser, a kicker, a creator.

That said... if the rotation is Papa, Tarpz, JrP, and the halves are Brown and Jack, the game plan is smash the front door down and play from offloads.
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Matt wrote: August 6, 2021, 12:39 pm
Botman wrote: August 6, 2021, 10:24 am What's Paulo going to be potentially on? And why do we need to adding middles to our football team?
Dont mind the player but just not a requirement for this team

As for Brown... we need someone who can use the football... we have ball runners. We have them coming out of our ****. Up and down the roster we have ball runners... We need someone who can actually read the defence and make the correct pass. I know that's hard to find, but thats what we need and Brown isnt that
Can Papa only play every 2nd game next yr?

Are we trading him or Tapine?

Have we decided that with Hodgo at 13 for long periods we can't have workhorse middles, we need impact ones?

As for Brown. I'm with you. We don't need a 2nd running half. We need an organiser, a kicker, a creator.
I’m not sure any player only available to play every second game is viable. Far too disruptive no matter how good the player. If that eventuates I’d say it’s hard decision time and Paulo probably is a good poor mans Papa.
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Fit Junior most definitely, Brown I’m not so sure about…
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We're moving someone/s on I assume

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I never thought Junior would come back here. Whilst I didn’t think we need more middle forwards, he plays big minutes and has ball playing ability, which we could use
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We'd have to be moving on a few players but I don't think that necessarily means it must be Tapine or Papalii... I feel like Ricky wants four props in the rotation that can all contribute at a high level. It's why he splits Papa and Tapine instead of playing the two of them as our starting props imo, I don't think he would trust a second unit of say Guler and Sutton. And I suspect that's why his bench rotation is so poor... he wants to keep the players who are performing on the field for too long.
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James is $400,000, Sia $250,000, Dunamis $250,000 - so this pays for Junior Paulo

But I thought he didn't like living in Canberra and there were rumours after his second season (2017) that he wanted to return to Sydney?
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Great moves, I hope we get them done.

JP - Insurance policy for Tapine.
DB - Great defender and support player. Allows us to move JW to lock or second row. Doesn't prevent us from adding a ball playing halfback.
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Hong Kong Raider wrote: August 6, 2021, 2:57 pm James is $400,000, Sia $250,000, Dunamis $250,000 - so this pays for Junior Paulo

But I thought he didn't like living in Canberra and there were rumours after his second season (2017) that he wanted to return to Sydney?
He was moved for cap reasons and has stated to many people privately he would return.
And I agree with your salary maths...you replace 3 squaddies with a premier prop and bring in youngsters to fill the gaps.
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GreenMachine wrote: August 6, 2021, 3:16 pm
Hong Kong Raider wrote: August 6, 2021, 2:57 pm James is $400,000, Sia $250,000, Dunamis $250,000 - so this pays for Junior Paulo

But I thought he didn't like living in Canberra and there were rumours after his second season (2017) that he wanted to return to Sydney?
He was moved for cap reasons and has stated to many people privately he would return.
And I agree with your salary maths...you replace 3 squaddies with a premier prop and bring in youngsters to fill the gaps.
Pretty sure James was reported as $350k. Replace those first 2 with $150k fringe players and you have $300k net cap room. That means only $550k to replace Lui with Paulo. Gettingbn close but might need to dip into some other cap space to make that happen.
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Mickey_Raider wrote: August 6, 2021, 10:04 am Do we really need Paulo?

I think if there is one position we are pretty OK on it is the prop rotation. Unless Tapine's mrs has had enough and would like to coach elsewhere.
Middle didn't show up in anyone's recruitment priorities. In fact we could easily let a couple go.

If we lose Nami, Hors, Havilii, James and Sia- replace most with budget contract juniors we'd be refreshing the squad and between James and Sia and the little bits of savings on the others mentioned we might get near a Junior Paulo contract I suppose, at this stage of his career.

He's a good player but it'd need to be integral to a play style shift to make much sense.

Dylan Brown is very quick but very limited in skill set and gamesense from what I've seen. Poor mans Jack Wighton.
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Havili, Sia, Lui, James all moving on.

That's a fair amount of cap. It's also a lot of older players past their best.



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Have those rumours of Papa wanting out died?
Could JP be in case Papa's out the door?
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James is contracted for next year.

Is there any actual basis to the claim he is moving on or is this just the next iteration of "Sia to welfare officer" and "Sam Williams to assistant coach"?

All are assumptions people have repeated enough that now they are treated as fact.
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Mickey_Raider wrote: August 6, 2021, 3:49 pm James is contracted for next year.

Is there any actual basis to the claim he is moving on or is this just the next iteration of "Sia to welfare officer" and "Sam Williams to assistant coach"?

All are assumptions people have repeated enough that now they are treated as fact.
Like Croker voluntarily retiring at the end of the year and leaving 1.5mil+ on the table.
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Paulo is a play for 2023 and not next year. So James having one more year doesn't change that. Broncos were looking at recruiting James for 2022 but we may have to pay some freight.

Hopefully we can terminate Scott to save more money. Croker needs to have a straight talk with Ricky and Don as well.

Wouldn't surprise me that we try to sign both Paulo and Brown for 2023 but ask them to agitate to leave and join us in 2022.
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Mickey_Raider wrote: August 6, 2021, 3:49 pm James is contracted for next year.

Is there any actual basis to the claim he is moving on or is this just the next iteration of "Sia to welfare officer" and "Sam Williams to assistant coach"?

All are assumptions people have repeated enough that now they are treated as fact.
Paulo is also contracted to the Eels for 2022. This is the NRL where negotiations are done 18 months in advance.
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Mickey_Raider wrote:James is contracted for next year.

Is there any actual basis to the claim he is moving on or is this just the next iteration of "Sia to welfare officer" and "Sam Williams to assistant coach"?

All are assumptions people have repeated enough that now they are treated as fact.
He's been offered to Brisbane.

It was posted here a few weeks ago.

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Roger Kenworthy wrote:
Mickey_Raider wrote: August 6, 2021, 3:49 pm James is contracted for next year.

Is there any actual basis to the claim he is moving on or is this just the next iteration of "Sia to welfare officer" and "Sam Williams to assistant coach"?

All are assumptions people have repeated enough that now they are treated as fact.
Like Croker voluntarily retiring at the end of the year and leaving 1.5mil+ on the table.
I don't think that was an assumption taken as fact, more an opinion.

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If Tapine moves to the Chooks that should free up some decent funds…
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