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Fogarty- ok. Didn't see it coming but he is Sezer with a slightly better running game (in terms of stepping) which is just fine for our support half. Kicks ok, not as good as Toots but that may be moot.

He got better as the season went on (as did the team overall) so at least he's someone on an upward swing, as opposed to a Taylor or Pearce.
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sprintman wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:16 pm
Dusty wrote: September 22, 2021, 7:55 pm
sprintman wrote:Titans forum says Fogarty exit expected after specific Dennis Watts ‘comments’.
Excuse my ignorance but who is Dennis Watts?


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I'm all for it. The fog is a genuine first grader and better than all the other nuffies spoken about on here.
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greeneyed wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:19 pm
sprintman wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:16 pm
Dusty wrote: September 22, 2021, 7:55 pm
sprintman wrote:Titans forum says Fogarty exit expected after specific Dennis Watts ‘comments’.
Excuse my ignorance but who is Dennis Watts?


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On the radio, he made a comment that Sexton is guaranteed to start at 7 next year, which was odd (Titans fans thought Fogarty was possibly in line to play hooker).
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I like it. Big fan of Fogarty

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If we have already spent so much of the money that was freed up by Williams, Scott, James and Havili that we can afford both Fogarty and Peachey heads need to roll.

There’s only so much that could have been used bringing juniors into the top 30.
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Botman wrote:
Dusty wrote: September 22, 2021, 7:57 pm 1. CNK
6. Wighton
7. Fogarty
9. Hodgson
14. Starling

That’s good.


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You've named 2 players that i dont expect to be in the spine... 1 of which im still somewhat expecting to not even be at the club
Hodgson—> out??

Who out of the spine?


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Hodgson im still feeling wont be with the club, and i dont see how even Stuart, as stubborn as he can be, could not name Savage at fullback, even if they rotate him out of that spot at times to protect him physically in defence.

You simply HAVE to know what Savage can give you out of that position.
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Dusty wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:32 pm
Botman wrote:
Dusty wrote: September 22, 2021, 7:57 pm 1. CNK
6. Wighton
7. Fogarty
9. Hodgson
14. Starling

That’s good.


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You've named 2 players that i dont expect to be in the spine... 1 of which im still somewhat expecting to not even be at the club
Hodgson—> out??

Who out of the spine?


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Savage for CNK is what I’m after. Unlikely to happen under Ricky though, usually takes a year or 2 for him to come around.
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Hong Kong Raider wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:05 pm Best option available. Much prefer Fogarty over Ash Taylor, Brooks, Dylan Brown, Cust, Milford, Lachlan Lam, Townsend (even if they were available). Gold Coast's attack has looked good this year - helps if you have Justin Hollbrook as coach as well !

Cannot understand why we cannot sign both Peachey and Fogarty - I pointed out on another post we have around $1.3 million to spend with the departures of G Williams, Scott and Ryan James.
I agree. I think the DT are talking out their ......
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The more I think about this, the more I like it. Suits us very well. Good attitude as well - no off field stuff like Pearce. Positive person that has confidence unlike Taylor or Brooks.

He's not flashy, but he is more consistent than Pearce, Brooks, or Shaun Johnson. And not injured as much as Pearce or Johnson.

We came 10th last year - we cannot expect the likes of DCE, Hughes, Clearly to join us. And they wouldn't anyway. he's the best option for now and we missed out on Reynolds as we didn't chase him.

Get it done ASAP. Top 8 here we come !
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Botman wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:33 pm Hodgson im still feeling wont be with the club, and i dont see how even Stuart, as stubborn as he can be, could not name Savage at fullback, even if they rotate him out of that spot at times to protect him physically in defence.

You simply HAVE to know what Savage can give you out of that position.
I think Hodgo stays til the end of next yr, OR, leaves mid yr. I dont see Starlo and Trevilyan being ready to carry a team yet.

Agree RE Savage.
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The issue with the cap is... you have other players on your roster on escalation deals. You might lose three players worth 1.3 million... but you don't necessarily have $1.3 million to spend (not sure where $1.3 million comes from). Plus Fogarty and Tyrone Peachey will be wanting pretty big dollars. And you have to have enough dollars to keep the juniors you want to promote too.
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I am down with this.

Not a superstar, but a good came controlling half with a decent organising game and he can kick goals.

And he won’t break the bank.
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Hong Kong Raider wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:38 pm The more I think about this, the more I like it. Suits us very well. Good attitude as well - no off field stuff like Pearce. Positive person that has confidence unlike Taylor or Brooks.

He's not flashy, but he is more consistent than Pearce, Brooks, or Shaun Johnson. And not injured as much as Pearce or Johnson.

We came 10th last year - we cannot expect the likes of DCE, Hughes, Clearly to join us. And they wouldn't anyway. he's the best option for now and we missed out on Reynolds as we didn't chase him.

Get it done ASAP. Top 8 here we come !
Fog is Sezer 2.0. As Titans, they are statistically eerily similar.

I really think he is the cog in the machine we are looking for
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I’d love to see Savage get that spot.

I have him on the wing and doing the RTS/Mini set up to groom him


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Matt wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:41 pm
Hong Kong Raider wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:38 pm The more I think about this, the more I like it. Suits us very well. Good attitude as well - no off field stuff like Pearce. Positive person that has confidence unlike Taylor or Brooks.

He's not flashy, but he is more consistent than Pearce, Brooks, or Shaun Johnson. And not injured as much as Pearce or Johnson.

We came 10th last year - we cannot expect the likes of DCE, Hughes, Clearly to join us. And they wouldn't anyway. he's the best option for now and we missed out on Reynolds as we didn't chase him.

Get it done ASAP. Top 8 here we come !
Fog is Sezer 2.0. As Titans, they are statistically eerily similar.

I really think he is the cog in the machine we are looking for
Agree Matt. Except his goal kicking is not as good as Sezer's. I don't look at stats much as I judge players by the eye and Fogarty has played well in the games that I've watched GC play. I think GC want to play Jayden Campbell at 6 and Sexton at 7.
And I agree that we should keep Hodgson for next year as well - particularly with the younger players coming up and Croker potentially retiring.
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Hong Kong Raider wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:46 pm
Matt wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:41 pm
Hong Kong Raider wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:38 pm The more I think about this, the more I like it. Suits us very well. Good attitude as well - no off field stuff like Pearce. Positive person that has confidence unlike Taylor or Brooks.

He's not flashy, but he is more consistent than Pearce, Brooks, or Shaun Johnson. And not injured as much as Pearce or Johnson.

We came 10th last year - we cannot expect the likes of DCE, Hughes, Clearly to join us. And they wouldn't anyway. he's the best option for now and we missed out on Reynolds as we didn't chase him.

Get it done ASAP. Top 8 here we come !
Fog is Sezer 2.0. As Titans, they are statistically eerily similar.

I really think he is the cog in the machine we are looking for
Agree Matt. Except his goal kicking is not as good as Sezer's. I don't look at stats much as I judge players by the eye and Fogarty has played well in the games that I've watched GC play. I think GC want to play Jayden Campbell at 6 and Sexton at 7.
And I agree that we should keep Hodgson for next year as well - particularly with the younger players coming up and Croker potentially retiring.

I think they want Campbell at #1 and Brimson at #6 to pair with Sexton. But we'll see.
They've got options for sure.
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He's rubbish imo. A seasoned reserve grade half who's looked ok in a team with improving team mates while there's been a dearth of talent in the halves.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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Dusty wrote: September 22, 2021, 7:57 pm 1. CNK
6. Wighton
7. Fogarty
9. Hodgson
14. Starling

That’s good.


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Get Hodgo the **** outta there and then it’s good… or keep him and give Fogarty one less tackle per set to work his magic?? Yeah…nah
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greeneyed wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:19 pm
sprintman wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:16 pm
Dusty wrote: September 22, 2021, 7:55 pm
sprintman wrote:Titans forum says Fogarty exit expected after specific Dennis Watts ‘comments’.
Excuse my ignorance
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http://www.leagueoftitans.com.au/showth ... ead/page14
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sprintman wrote: September 22, 2021, 9:13 pm
greeneyed wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:19 pm
sprintman wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:16 pm
Dusty wrote: September 22, 2021, 7:55 pm
sprintman wrote:Titans forum says Fogarty exit expected after specific Dennis Watts ‘comments’.
Excuse my ignorance
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http://www.leagueoftitans.com.au/showth ... ead/page14
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Feels like this is going to zoom fairly quickly towards a deal.
happy with that.
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greeneyed wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:40 pm The issue with the cap is... you have other players on your roster on escalation deals. You might lose three players worth 1.3 million... but you don't necessarily have $1.3 million to spend (not sure where $1.3 million comes from). Plus Fogarty and Tyrone Peachey will be wanting pretty big dollars. And you have to have enough dollars to keep the juniors you want to promote too.
Yep. Juniors like Sammy Williams, Frawley and Sia.
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Fogarty would be an excellent buy for us. We will never attract the elite halves because they are so few in number and the few that exist will generally sign with clubs in the big smoke. Fogarty is an OK half back and that’s a pretty darn good result for Canberra given he is a bona fide half hack and would be the best we’ve had since Carney (dont count GW as a HB). But even though he isnt going to set the world on fire, compared to SW he is a massive upgrade. Get it done Raiders!
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Botman wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:48 pm
Hong Kong Raider wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:46 pm
Matt wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:41 pm
Hong Kong Raider wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:38 pm The more I think about this, the more I like it. Suits us very well. Good attitude as well - no off field stuff like Pearce. Positive person that has confidence unlike Taylor or Brooks.

He's not flashy, but he is more consistent than Pearce, Brooks, or Shaun Johnson. And not injured as much as Pearce or Johnson.

We came 10th last year - we cannot expect the likes of DCE, Hughes, Clearly to join us. And they wouldn't anyway. he's the best option for now and we missed out on Reynolds as we didn't chase him.

Get it done ASAP. Top 8 here we come !
Fog is Sezer 2.0. As Titans, they are statistically eerily similar.

I really think he is the cog in the machine we are looking for
Agree Matt. Except his goal kicking is not as good as Sezer's. I don't look at stats much as I judge players by the eye and Fogarty has played well in the games that I've watched GC play. I think GC want to play Jayden Campbell at 6 and Sexton at 7.
And I agree that we should keep Hodgson for next year as well - particularly with the younger players coming up and Croker potentially retiring.

I think they want Campbell at #1 and Brimson at #6 to pair with Sexton. But we'll see.
They've got options for sure.
Thats what Holbrook had suggested, yes.
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I wonder if they’d throw in a Dennis Watts to sweeten the deal? Get it done Donny.
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rayden83 wrote: September 22, 2021, 10:05 pm Fogarty would be an excellent buy for us. We will never attract the elite halves because they are so few in number and the few that exist will generally sign with clubs in the big smoke. Fogarty is an OK half back and that’s a pretty darn good result for Canberra given he is a bona fide half hack and would be the best we’ve had since Carney (dont count GW as a HB). But even though he isnt going to set the world on fire, compared to SW he is a massive upgrade. Get it done Raiders!
I agree.
Im pretty sure that's what we said when we signed Sezer too.
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rayden83 wrote: September 22, 2021, 10:05 pm Fogarty would be an excellent buy for us. We will never attract the elite halves because they are so few in number and the few that exist will generally sign with clubs in the big smoke. Fogarty is an OK half back and that’s a pretty darn good result for Canberra given he is a bona fide half hack and would be the best we’ve had since Carney (dont count GW as a HB). But even though he isnt going to set the world on fire, compared to SW he is a massive upgrade. Get it done Raiders!
What did Carney ever achieve with us??? His best years was with the Roosters. The best half we’ve had since Ricky would probably be Sezer or McFadden
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Fogarty is a genuine 7 though and I'm not sure Sezer ever was

I'm not too surprised Titans fans are happy to see Fogarty leave, they have Sexton so why not. Sexton/Taylor was the halves pairing while Fogarty was injured, and there was a school of thought that they should stay on rather than bring Fog back in

All the more reason though it's a win/win for us both, and why it seems likely to eventuate. The rise of Jayden Campbell makes it an easy decision for them really, although they might be making too much change too quickly by losing all three of Taylor, Fog and Peach. AJ Brimson is injury prone too, so I'm not sure how much they can rely on him at 6. They might want Fog for depth and as security in case Sexton doesn't kick on too - hopefully not
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Botman wrote: September 22, 2021, 8:33 pm Hodgson im still feeling wont be with the club, and i dont see how even Stuart, as stubborn as he can be, could not name Savage at fullback, even if they rotate him out of that spot at times to protect him physically in defence.

You simply HAVE to know what Savage can give you out of that position.
Between you, me, Matt, C Milk and Billy, we make a good quintet of assistant coaches that think the same way :D
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"Brent Read wrote in the Australian today that Peachey was offered to the Tigers and Raiders for $400k and neither club is "likely to meet those demands", but he can be had for less.

However he also says that with Campbell doing well at fullback Brimson is likely to move to 5/8 and Jamal Fogerty's "people" are therefore putting out feelers. Doesn't say who to."

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34815

I'm just going to say "I told you so". Apart from spelling his surname incorrectly...
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Can't say I've watched enough of Fogarty to have a strong opinion. What I have seen is quite underwhelming. He's a 27 year old who has played about 2 First Grade seasons with the Titans. Doesn't scream success. Seems to have a decent skillset, but doesn't seem to be a great game manager. He's possibly a better than our existing options though. At least he is a genuine halfback.

I'm very interested in the fact the club is persuing him, Peachey and CHT. My only question is whether they are chasing all three at once, which would completely turn our attacking structure on its head. I have no doubts that we would have the cap space to do so.

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Seiffert82 wrote: September 22, 2021, 10:45 pm Can't say I've watched enough of Fogarty to have a strong opinion. What I have seen is quite underwhelming. He's a 27 year old who has played about 2 First Grade seasons with the Titans. Doesn't scream success. Seems to have a decent skillset, but doesn't seem to be a great game manager. He's possibly a better than our existing options though. At least he is a genuine halfback.

I'm very interested in the fact the club is persuing him, Peachey and CHT. My only question is whether they are chasing all three at once, which would completely turn our attacking structure on its head. I have no doubts that we would have the cap space to do so.

Interesting days.

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He's not a great game manager. He's not even a great player. The Titans looked directionless against the Roosters with him steering the ship, or failing to steer the ship more accurately. But you'd be hard-pressed to say he's not a first-grader, and hopefully we will have enough ad-lib attack elsewhere in the team to compensate. If he can chime in with some kicking, goalkicking and assists here and there it's a win
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Seiffert82 wrote: September 22, 2021, 10:45 pm Can't say I've watched enough of Fogarty to have a strong opinion. What I have seen is quite underwhelming. Seems to have a decent skillset, but doesn't seem to be a great game manager. He's probably better than our existing options though.

I'm very interested in the fact the club is persuing him, Peachey and CHT. My only question is whether they are chasing all three at once, which would completely turn our attacking structure on its head. I have no doubts that we would have the cap space to do so.

Interesting days.

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I reckon I've seen every Titans game this year (though to be fair I think I've missed about three NRL games all season - possibly I need a life) and Fogarty isn't a great linebreaker but he has a nice short ball and a good kicking game. Mostly though he has a calm head that isn't just about putting up dinky kicks. In the last couple of weeks I've seen a few Warrington games with George Williams (by way of comparison) and Fogarty is probably better that George. Of course he's not hindered by Old Man Widdop and Blake Austin coming off the bench to give away penalties, but still...

With Fogarty, Peachey would be an even more excellent moneyball buy. And there'd be no need to chase CHT because the obvious idea would be for Fogarty to fill a gap, or win a premiership, while we wait for Schneider to get a bit more game time and become a superstar. Haha fingers crossed.
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