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This decision shows the NRL does not understand the US market they are trying to break into. The strongest connection they had was bringing the Australian Raiders to the home of the US Raiders. Americans have no connection or interest beyond the NFL and the NRL powers that be just threw that connection out the window.
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Green Blogger wrote: August 11, 2023, 2:46 pm This decision shows the NRL does not understand the US market they are trying to break into. The strongest connection they had was bringing the Australian Raiders to the home of the US Raiders. Americans have no connection or interest beyond the NFL and the NRL powers that be just threw that connection out the window.
I was unaware the NRL are trying to break into the US market.
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Little did I know how great my promotional idea was. Forget Jackman and Crowe. Seagal all the way.
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BJ wrote: August 11, 2023, 2:09 pm
Botman wrote:
BJ wrote: August 11, 2023, 1:51 pm Manly because Wolverine Jackman is involved.
The new Deadpool movie is slated for a February release, so he'll be all over the press in the lead up
Good chance to get a very recognisable star who will be coming off a major release to promote the game and try and sell the product.

If that is indeed the plan i think that's fine
Raiders need to get Steven Seagal as our movie star ambassador.

He has a new film coming out every fortnight. We can align our home games with his film releases and double the publicity and exposure. Tagline: The Raiders are Under Siege.
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-PJ- wrote: August 11, 2023, 2:53 pm
Green Blogger wrote: August 11, 2023, 2:46 pm This decision shows the NRL does not understand the US market they are trying to break into. The strongest connection they had was bringing the Australian Raiders to the home of the US Raiders. Americans have no connection or interest beyond the NFL and the NRL powers that be just threw that connection out the window.
I was unaware the NRL are trying to break into the US market.
Straight from the press release:

“The 2024 Las Vegas matches will form part of an exciting ‘Australia Week’ in Las Vegas where we will be showcasing rugby league and Australia to the US market,” Mr Abdo said.

My point stands. Whoever the marketing geniuses are at the NRL who could not figure out that the Raiders connection is important in Las Vegas and the NFL market in relation to this venture should be sacked. Then again, the marketing team probably pushed that line hard but the NRL executives could not take that line without removing one of their favoured teams from the mix.
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Botman. I am your father.

No. I stopped Seagal films sometime many moons ago. But credit to your dad for playing the long game. Seagal’s only ever one film away from the new Lawrence of Arabia or Citizen Kane.
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Shame we are not included , not that I could have gone.
Raiders with the connection to the NFL Raiders would have been a good link . Missed opportunity.
NRL has definitely got plans to take a piece of the US sports market. Even a small piece would be financially huge for the NRL.

1 positive , we won't be stuffed from the travel , 1 less excuse
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Looks like the Sea Eagles and Roosters agreed to be the home teams, so that would have counted in their favour. Of course, the NRL could never, ever expect the Brisbane Broncos to play a home game away.
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The fact that the best team in the NRL for the past 3 or so years is not going says absolutely everything about the NRL.
The team that shouldn’t be there is the Roosters!
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I've got no issue with us not going. We play a boring, uninspiring style. Not great advertising. And I'm quite happy for our team not to have to deal with jet lag in the first few weeks of a new season.
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Riaan wrote: August 11, 2023, 5:32 pm The fact that the best team in the NRL for the past 3 or so years is not going says absolutely everything about the NRL.
The team that shouldn’t be there is the Roosters!
I’m pretty sure Penrith didn’t want to go
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:lol: Of course it’s a Donkeys away game..
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Finchy wrote: August 11, 2023, 5:50 pm
Riaan wrote: August 11, 2023, 5:32 pm The fact that the best team in the NRL for the past 3 or so years is not going says absolutely everything about the NRL.
The team that shouldn’t be there is the Roosters!
I’m pretty sure Penrith didn’t want to go
And fair enough too, a premiership hangover leading into a WCC doesn’t give them much rest.
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Wow, who would have thought.

Manly vs Brisbane and Souths vs Roosters was always going to be the plan.

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Green Blogger wrote:This decision shows the NRL does not understand the US market they are trying to break into. The strongest connection they had was bringing the Australian Raiders to the home of the US Raiders. Americans have no connection or interest beyond the NFL and the NRL powers that be just threw that connection out the window.
Actually if they truly understood the US market they wouldn't be bothering with this at all. We're not cracking that market. I repeatedly attempted to show - supposed sports nuts - a rugby league game, State of origin in fact. And the response was one of boredom, not giving a **** and an unwillingness to even attempt to understand or care about the game. Americans are the most insular, closed minded sports fans on earth. They have their sports and they don't care for others.

And as an aside Steven Seagull sucks ****. He's is an alleged sex offender and disowned by America. Dude has switched allegiances to Russia.
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Don’t you know the Stephen Seagal issues are just an FBI plot.




















Surely you knew the Seagal stuff was a joke.
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gergreg wrote: August 11, 2023, 8:51 pm
Green Blogger wrote:This decision shows the NRL does not understand the US market they are trying to break into. The strongest connection they had was bringing the Australian Raiders to the home of the US Raiders. Americans have no connection or interest beyond the NFL and the NRL powers that be just threw that connection out the window.
Actually if they truly understood the US market they wouldn't be bothering with this at all. We're not cracking that market. I repeatedly attempted to show - supposed sports nuts - a rugby league game, State of origin in fact. And the response was one of boredom, not giving a **** and an unwillingness to even attempt to understand or care about the game. Americans are the most insular, closed minded sports fans on earth. They have their sports and they don't care for others.

And as an aside Steven Seagull sucks ****. He's is an alleged sex offender and disowned by America. Dude has switched allegiances to Russia.
This.

I work for an American company and speak to all sorts of them every day.

I'd be surprised if more than 1 in 50 of them have even heard of rugby.

Of those, I'd be surprised if more than 1 in 1000 have heard of rugby league.

And I'd imagine only a fraction of them are interested in a new sport - especially from a country as remote as Australia, where Paul Hogan would be the common frame of reference.

Nationally, that's probably still a good few people, but it's not going to be enough to crack anything.
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Botman wrote: August 11, 2023, 1:57 pm
BJ wrote: August 11, 2023, 1:51 pm Manly because Wolverine Jackman is involved.
The new Deadpool movie is slated for a February release, so he'll be all over the press in the lead up
Good chance to get a very recognisable star who will be coming off a major release to promote the game and try and sell the product.

If that is indeed the plan i think that's fine
Deadpool 3 has been removed from Disney's release schedule because of the SAG-AFTRA strike. It's unlikely that it'll come out before the 4th quarter next year or later depending on how long the strike drags on for.
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BJ wrote:Don’t you know the Stephen Seagal issues are just an FBI plot.




















Surely you knew the Seagal stuff was a joke.
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Green Blogger wrote: August 11, 2023, 2:46 pm This decision shows the NRL does not understand the US market they are trying to break into. The strongest connection they had was bringing the Australian Raiders to the home of the US Raiders. Americans have no connection or interest beyond the NFL and the NRL powers that be just threw that connection out the window.
Actually the best studies shows that the most effective marketing tactic since the start of the social media age is celebrity or influencer endorsement. So getting as many celebrities involved in marketing the game as possible, then mass marketing for an extended period, would probably be the NRL's best bet of craving out a niche in the American market if that is their goal.

From that perspective the only outlier is the Roosters. Souths and Manly make complete sense because of their connections to A-listers, and having the Broncos there to try and keep the Murdoch's in the loop makes a lot of sense as well.

I doubt that the NRL actually seriously believes that they can crack the US market anyway, and PVL has made it very clear in the past that these games in Vegas are about trying to tap into the US betting market, which is a very different thing than trying to break into the sports market.
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Badger17 wrote: August 12, 2023, 12:28 am
Botman wrote: August 11, 2023, 1:57 pm
BJ wrote: August 11, 2023, 1:51 pm Manly because Wolverine Jackman is involved.
The new Deadpool movie is slated for a February release, so he'll be all over the press in the lead up
Good chance to get a very recognisable star who will be coming off a major release to promote the game and try and sell the product.

If that is indeed the plan i think that's fine
Deadpool 3 has been removed from Disney's release schedule because of the SAG-AFTRA strike. It's unlikely that it'll come out before the 4th quarter next year or later depending on how long the strike drags on for.
Ah right
That makes sense and also sucks :(
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Botman wrote: August 12, 2023, 11:18 am
Badger17 wrote: August 12, 2023, 12:28 am
Botman wrote: August 11, 2023, 1:57 pm
BJ wrote: August 11, 2023, 1:51 pm Manly because Wolverine Jackman is involved.
The new Deadpool movie is slated for a February release, so he'll be all over the press in the lead up
Good chance to get a very recognisable star who will be coming off a major release to promote the game and try and sell the product.

If that is indeed the plan i think that's fine
Deadpool 3 has been removed from Disney's release schedule because of the SAG-AFTRA strike. It's unlikely that it'll come out before the 4th quarter next year or later depending on how long the strike drags on for.
Ah right
That makes sense and also sucks :(
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Badger17 wrote:
Green Blogger wrote: August 11, 2023, 2:46 pm This decision shows the NRL does not understand the US market they are trying to break into. The strongest connection they had was bringing the Australian Raiders to the home of the US Raiders. Americans have no connection or interest beyond the NFL and the NRL powers that be just threw that connection out the window.
Actually the best studies shows that the most effective marketing tactic since the start of the social media age is celebrity or influencer endorsement. So getting as many celebrities involved in marketing the game as possible, then mass marketing for an extended period, would probably be the NRL's best bet of craving out a niche in the American market if that is their goal.

From that perspective the only outlier is the Roosters. Souths and Manly make complete sense because of their connections to A-listers, and having the Broncos there to try and keep the Murdoch's in the loop makes a lot of sense as well.

I doubt that the NRL actually seriously believes that they can crack the US market anyway, and PVL has made it very clear in the past that these games in Vegas are about trying to tap into the US betting market, which is a very different thing than trying to break into the sports market.
Yep, this is 99.5% about gambling. That's why it's in Vegas.

The rest is a promotional gimmick.


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Geez I hope Magic Round in Brissie next year is a Donkeys away game as well.
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-PJ- wrote:Geez I hope Magic Round in Brissie next year is a Donkeys away game as well.
It really is a farce.

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Badger17 wrote: August 12, 2023, 12:57 am
Green Blogger wrote: August 11, 2023, 2:46 pm This decision shows the NRL does not understand the US market they are trying to break into. The strongest connection they had was bringing the Australian Raiders to the home of the US Raiders. Americans have no connection or interest beyond the NFL and the NRL powers that be just threw that connection out the window.
Actually the best studies shows that the most effective marketing tactic since the start of the social media age is celebrity or influencer endorsement. So getting as many celebrities involved in marketing the game as possible, then mass marketing for an extended period, would probably be the NRL's best bet of craving out a niche in the American market if that is their goal.

From that perspective the only outlier is the Roosters. Souths and Manly make complete sense because of their connections to A-listers, and having the Broncos there to try and keep the Murdoch's in the loop makes a lot of sense as well.

I doubt that the NRL actually seriously believes that they can crack the US market anyway, and PVL has made it very clear in the past that these games in Vegas are about trying to tap into the US betting market, which is a very different thing than trying to break into the sports market.
Tell that to Bud :roflmao
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The Nickman wrote: May 26, 2023, 5:12 am
greeneyed wrote:I’d be very tempted to go.
****, you’d love Vegas, Ferg. Me and you, hitting the tables and drinking for fourteen days solid, it’s the best!
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nachopants wrote: August 13, 2023, 12:39 pm
The Nickman wrote: May 26, 2023, 5:12 am
greeneyed wrote:I’d be very tempted to go.
****, you’d love Vegas, Ferg. Me and you, hitting the tables and drinking for fourteen days solid, it’s the best!
Um, excuse me, hello? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :hi :hi :hi :hi :hi :hi :hi :hi :hi
Well it's not happening now... :(
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Dr Zaius wrote: August 11, 2023, 5:48 pm I've got no issue with us not going. We play a boring, uninspiring style. Not great advertising. And I'm quite happy for our team not to have to deal with jet lag in the first few weeks of a new season.
Based on what we saw against the Storm today, it would have been a case of the NRL shooting themselves in the foot if it had included the Raiders.
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Unfair,

Espcially after we played today like we just had a bender in Vegas.
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On MMM today Peter Vlandys said all clubs will get a trip to Vegas in the next 5yrs.
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-PJ- wrote:On MMM today Peter Vlandys said all clubs will get a trip to Vegas in the next 5yrs.
No doubt some will get multiple
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Dr Zaius wrote: August 13, 2023, 4:59 pm
-PJ- wrote:On MMM today Peter Vlandys said all clubs will get a trip to Vegas in the next 5yrs.
No doubt some will get multiple
17 teams, 4 teams every year..5yr deal.

So yeah Broncos will go 5 times.
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