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Ata for Hosking. Simi on the bench.
At least Haas and Reynolds aren't back. Also Corey Oates instead of that fast winger playing for them is a bonus.
At least Haas and Reynolds aren't back. Also Corey Oates instead of that fast winger playing for them is a bonus.
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Solid team, no real surprises.
Ata in for Hosking, Simi onto bench.
Has Hoppa been selected for Cup ?
Ata in for Hosking, Simi onto bench.
Has Hoppa been selected for Cup ?
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Ye na not winning this one
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Out of curiosity can Kaeo play hooker?
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Although the injuries are unfortunate, the side looks better balanced with backrower/center Simi on the bench. Needs more Woolford.
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I’m on board with that!
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I just can't remember the last time Starling had impact on a game. Which is 100% his role as an impact hooker is.
Probably 2020 was the last time he was any decent and actually displayed his supposed dynanic running game? When he and Havili were covering for Hodgo and actually did a great job.
Probably 2020 was the last time he was any decent and actually displayed his supposed dynanic running game? When he and Havili were covering for Hodgo and actually did a great job.
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We don't NEED Woolford to turn the game, where does chat like this come from? We just need him to keep the service up, and right now, Starling is not doing that!pickles wrote: ↑April 16, 2024, 3:57 pmI watched him pretty closely against the Titans. He brings energy and enthusiasm in defence but needs to be a lot more accurate with his passing and should have that sorted by now.Dylan’s Raiders wrote: ↑April 16, 2024, 3:31 pm Same as last week - Sasagi in for Hoskingson.
Starling is puzzling… just not effective for us anymore. No way Levi is an 80 minute hooker, there are very few of those in the competition. Would love to give Woolford a go, I don’t think Puru has played enough to slot in for 30 minutes a week tbh - he plays exclusively at lock these days.
Woolford is solid but it is hard to see him turning a game in attack or defence so not sure what the answer is. Maybe Levi just needs to get a lot fitter or if he can't manage 80, give Woolford the first 20-30 and then bring Levi on after that to finish out the game.
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With all the hate Starling is receiving, I’m surprised he’s not Billy’s new favourite player
Ata Mariota’s #1 fan. Bless his cotton socks.
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And I'm really happy with this team, with the obvious exception of Starling still at 14.
I just can't see why Stuart is persisting with an option that essentially cruels 20-30min of our game.
It works if we're comfortably in front, otherwise it's an awful option.
I just can't see why Stuart is persisting with an option that essentially cruels 20-30min of our game.
It works if we're comfortably in front, otherwise it's an awful option.
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In round one he led the kick chase and initiated the tackle where he and Papa drove the Newcastle winger back in goal. It was a big play and impacted the game.Raider47 wrote:I just can't remember the last time Starling had impact on a game. Which is 100% his role as an impact hooker is.
Probably 2020 was the last time he was any decent and actually displayed his supposed dynanic running game? When he and Havili were covering for Hodgo and actually did a great job.
I could be wrong, but I think his defence is what’s keeping him in the 14 (and possibly some intangible off field stuff we don’t see as well, I’ve seen a couple of things to suggest he’s considered a bit of a leader).
Not convinced any of this means he should be cemented in to the first grade side, mind you, but it’s not completely inexplicable.
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If defending and no hooker skills is what we are after from a 14 then Puru should get his shot.
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I doubt he was returning the ball back to him off the ground.
I hope I am wrong which would mean Sticky is thinking it also.
I don’t mind Starlings defence but we need to start defending with our attack. Stop playing so conservative. The last 2 mins of the titans (could argue the last 20) is a freak example of how we put away the attack and just invite sides back into it.
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Not shocked, but disappointed.pickles wrote: ↑April 16, 2024, 2:50 pmHe seems to have a lot more upside than the other options at the moment and I am confident he will adapt to the wing but I won't be at all shocked when he is replaced by Hoppa this afternoon.dubby wrote: ↑April 16, 2024, 1:50 pm Schiller admits himself he is adapting to life on the wing, as he usually plays centre in NSW Cup. Hopefully, video review and training sessions will help him develop the defensive mindset required to defend on the wing. His speed is a huge advantage when compared with Hoppa and Cotric, but if he is leaking points its a huge problem.
Let's admit he has some improvement.
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Nah like everyone except you, Red and GE, I think Danny Levi is going a great job. I correctly predicted he would. I feel bad for your boy Woolf that he can’t get selected over a dud like Starling
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I see a trend. I say something, others oppose me, I’m proven correct. Remember when Nicko was outraged when I suggested we should think hard about whether we extend Jacks contract. My opinions may not always be popular but they are usually right.The Nickman wrote: ↑April 16, 2024, 5:09 pmHe will be soon enough, I reckon. Now that most of us are coming around to Levi, expect old Billy Boy to pivot and turn to some other crappy option.
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Starling must be on thin ice.
Gonna be a tough 3 weeks. Would be happy with 1/3.
Gonna be a tough 3 weeks. Would be happy with 1/3.
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I’m genuinely happy with how the coach is going about selecting the squad this season except for this one glaring omissionAzza wrote:Starling must be on thin ice.
Gonna be a tough 3 weeks. Would be happy with 1/3.
And it had such a bigger impact on the close out of our games than the makeup of the bench props, I just can’t see how he doesn’t see this
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Yeah though I think if Whitehead hadn't been "injured" I suspect that would be an additional gripe.The Nickman wrote: ↑April 16, 2024, 6:14 pmI’m genuinely happy with how the coach is going about selecting the squad this season except for this one glaring omissionAzza wrote:Starling must be on thin ice.
Gonna be a tough 3 weeks. Would be happy with 1/3.
And it had such a bigger impact on the close out of our games than the makeup of the bench props, I just can’t see how he doesn’t see this
Starling's progression has been disappointing. I know he has had some off-field distractions but it seemed we had unearthed a gem when he came into the side in 2020.
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Huge opportunity looms for young Raiders wrecking ball amid injury crisis
A huge opportunity awaits young wrecking ball forward Ata Mariota, with the Canberra Raiders' second-row injuries opening the door for him to cement a spot in the starting lineup in the coming weeks.
Mariota was named to start in place of Zac Hosking for the Raiders' Saturday night showdown against the Broncos in Brisbane, with Simi Sasagi added to the bench as the only other change from last weekend's squad.
Raiders: 1. Chevy Stewart, 2. James Schiller, 3. Matt Timoko, 4. Sebastian Kris, 5. Xavier Savage, 6. Ethan Strange, 7. Jamal Fogarty, 8. Josh Papali'i, 9. Danny Levi, 10. Joe Tapine (c), 11. Hudson Young, 12. Ata Mariota, 13. Morgan Smithies. Interchange: 14. Tom Starling, 15. Simi Sasagi, 16. Trey Mooney, 17. Pasami Saulo. Reserves: 18. Kaeo Weekes, 19. Emre Guler, 20. Zac Woolford, 21. Nick Cotric, 22. Peter Hola
Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239
A huge opportunity awaits young wrecking ball forward Ata Mariota, with the Canberra Raiders' second-row injuries opening the door for him to cement a spot in the starting lineup in the coming weeks.
Mariota was named to start in place of Zac Hosking for the Raiders' Saturday night showdown against the Broncos in Brisbane, with Simi Sasagi added to the bench as the only other change from last weekend's squad.
Raiders: 1. Chevy Stewart, 2. James Schiller, 3. Matt Timoko, 4. Sebastian Kris, 5. Xavier Savage, 6. Ethan Strange, 7. Jamal Fogarty, 8. Josh Papali'i, 9. Danny Levi, 10. Joe Tapine (c), 11. Hudson Young, 12. Ata Mariota, 13. Morgan Smithies. Interchange: 14. Tom Starling, 15. Simi Sasagi, 16. Trey Mooney, 17. Pasami Saulo. Reserves: 18. Kaeo Weekes, 19. Emre Guler, 20. Zac Woolford, 21. Nick Cotric, 22. Peter Hola
Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239
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Game suited him then, doesn't nowAzza wrote:Yeah though I think if Whitehead hadn't been "injured" I suspect that would be an additional gripe.The Nickman wrote: ↑April 16, 2024, 6:14 pmI’m genuinely happy with how the coach is going about selecting the squad this season except for this one glaring omissionAzza wrote:Starling must be on thin ice.
Gonna be a tough 3 weeks. Would be happy with 1/3.
And it had such a bigger impact on the close out of our games than the makeup of the bench props, I just can’t see how he doesn’t see this
Starling's progression has been disappointing. I know he has had some off-field distractions but it seemed we had unearthed a gem when he came into the side in 2020.
He always was a bit of a downhill skier, if the forwards have a roll on he can run, put guys into gaps off his hip. If they don't, well he's screwed
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But he doesn’t do any of that stuff now, Timmy.
In fact, he doesn’t do anything!
In fact, he doesn’t do anything!
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Broncos by 37.
EDIT: Unless Chevy finally lands Christie Brinkley, in which case, Raiders by 3.
EDIT: Unless Chevy finally lands Christie Brinkley, in which case, Raiders by 3.
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*Chef's Kiss*
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Christie Brinkley recently turned 70.
70, let that sink in.
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She’s still hot..
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Back on topic thanks.
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Good side, about the best we can put on the park. Since Ricky won't drop Starling for Woodford, for whatever reason, we may never know.
My main concern is Chevys body holding up to his kamikaze runs... jesus h christ he throws himself into the line.
Has he gotten some pointers from rapa ?
Great to see no fear, but it's only his sheer velocity stopping anyone from smashing him because of his weight. And something has to give in the body eventually. Great debut though. And one he will never forget either.
Strange seems to have no ceiling yet, what a player. He could be anything. And I hope he doesn't get picked for origin just yet for his own sake and development. He does seem level headed and we'll grounded, from a footy family so wouldn't let pressure get to him imo.
Saulo is making and impact and getting through a ton of work. Good on him, the coaches saw something in him last year and boy have they turned him into a good player.
Ata is getting a lot better, I think it was always a confidence thing with him and lack of self belief. But he is now his own man. Has skills and is starting to realise he can dominate a lot of nrl players.
All round great stuff. I've enjoyed this season so far.
And I'm loving the young blokes enthusiastic approach with the older heads doing their jobs well.
Taps, Timoko, the Fog, just wow
And special mention to Savage, hard runs, tough as nails now, doesn't whinge when he gets bitch slapped, grits his teeth and tries for a quick play the ball.
**** I love this team.
My main concern is Chevys body holding up to his kamikaze runs... jesus h christ he throws himself into the line.
Has he gotten some pointers from rapa ?
Great to see no fear, but it's only his sheer velocity stopping anyone from smashing him because of his weight. And something has to give in the body eventually. Great debut though. And one he will never forget either.
Strange seems to have no ceiling yet, what a player. He could be anything. And I hope he doesn't get picked for origin just yet for his own sake and development. He does seem level headed and we'll grounded, from a footy family so wouldn't let pressure get to him imo.
Saulo is making and impact and getting through a ton of work. Good on him, the coaches saw something in him last year and boy have they turned him into a good player.
Ata is getting a lot better, I think it was always a confidence thing with him and lack of self belief. But he is now his own man. Has skills and is starting to realise he can dominate a lot of nrl players.
All round great stuff. I've enjoyed this season so far.
And I'm loving the young blokes enthusiastic approach with the older heads doing their jobs well.
Taps, Timoko, the Fog, just wow
And special mention to Savage, hard runs, tough as nails now, doesn't whinge when he gets bitch slapped, grits his teeth and tries for a quick play the ball.
**** I love this team.
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From my perspective you need at least one impact player on the bench who can come on and turn the momentum of the game. Starling has provided that before by playing fast and direct and scooting out of dummy half. He definitely hasn't found that this season with the ball but is always high energy in defence, racing up, making solid tackles and chasing kicks hard.The Nickman wrote: ↑April 16, 2024, 5:06 pmWe don't NEED Woolford to turn the game, where does chat like this come from? We just need him to keep the service up, and right now, Starling is not doing that!pickles wrote: ↑April 16, 2024, 3:57 pmI watched him pretty closely against the Titans. He brings energy and enthusiasm in defence but needs to be a lot more accurate with his passing and should have that sorted by now.Dylan’s Raiders wrote: ↑April 16, 2024, 3:31 pm Same as last week - Sasagi in for Hoskingson.
Starling is puzzling… just not effective for us anymore. No way Levi is an 80 minute hooker, there are very few of those in the competition. Would love to give Woolford a go, I don’t think Puru has played enough to slot in for 30 minutes a week tbh - he plays exclusively at lock these days.
Woolford is solid but it is hard to see him turning a game in attack or defence so not sure what the answer is. Maybe Levi just needs to get a lot fitter or if he can't manage 80, give Woolford the first 20-30 and then bring Levi on after that to finish out the game.
Just because mainly this season we have been defending leads rather than chasing the game doesn't mean that will always be the case and we definitely saw against the titans that even with every stat in your favour without a bit of spark it doesn't translate to points.
I guess the positive here is that the most contentious position in the team is a bench hooker who gets around 20 minutes per game. It has certainly been a lot worse than this!