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Green Blogger wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:22 pm David Riccio on NRL Tonight stated that Curtis is not in the Raiders team to go into the QLD bubble, Raiders take culture seriously and that he is of the belief that Curtis will definitely not play first grade for the Raiders again this year and that most likely he will never play first grade for the Raiders again.

Timoko might be feeling the same way about his prospects

Azza wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 5:50 pm He's gone. Good riddance. Worst outside back signing since David Howell and Craig Frawley.

Tbh he's worse. We had nothing to lose with those two signings, it was them or Wolfgramme/Swann.

Billy Walker wrote:

Green Blogger wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:22 pm David Riccio on NRL Tonight stated that Curtis is not in the Raiders team to go into the QLD bubble, Raiders take culture seriously and that he is of the belief that Curtis will definitely not play first grade for the Raiders again this year and that most likely he will never play first grade for the Raiders again.

Timoko might be feeling the same way about his prospects

yeah he extended because he can't see a way forward

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The signing of CScott has been a dumpster fire

Let’s move on.

Billy Walker wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:25 pm

Green Blogger wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:22 pm David Riccio on NRL Tonight stated that Curtis is not in the Raiders team to go into the QLD bubble, Raiders take culture seriously and that he is of the belief that Curtis will definitely not play first grade for the Raiders again this year and that most likely he will never play first grade for the Raiders again.

Timoko might be feeling the same way about his prospects

Timoko just has to wait for Croker to get another 600 points.

bonehead wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:47 pm

Billy Walker wrote:

Green Blogger wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:22 pm David Riccio on NRL Tonight stated that Curtis is not in the Raiders team to go into the QLD bubble, Raiders take culture seriously and that he is of the belief that Curtis will definitely not play first grade for the Raiders again this year and that most likely he will never play first grade for the Raiders again.

Timoko might be feeling the same way about his prospects

yeah he extended because he can't see a way forward

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wild what some people post, isnt it?

Roger Kenworthy wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:52 pm

Billy Walker wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:25 pm

Green Blogger wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:22 pm David Riccio on NRL Tonight stated that Curtis is not in the Raiders team to go into the QLD bubble, Raiders take culture seriously and that he is of the belief that Curtis will definitely not play first grade for the Raiders again this year and that most likely he will never play first grade for the Raiders again.

Timoko might be feeling the same way about his prospects

Timoko just has to wait for Croker to get another 600 points.

That will be 300 conversations the way he is playing

bonehead wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:47 pm

Billy Walker wrote:

Green Blogger wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:22 pm David Riccio on NRL Tonight stated that Curtis is not in the Raiders team to go into the QLD bubble, Raiders take culture seriously and that he is of the belief that Curtis will definitely not play first grade for the Raiders again this year and that most likely he will never play first grade for the Raiders again.

Timoko might be feeling the same way about his prospects

yeah he extended because he can't see a way forward

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The timing of the re-signing of Tmoko and then the breach notice following shortly after is.....good timing.

Roger Kenworthy wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:52 pm

Billy Walker wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:25 pm

Green Blogger wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:22 pm David Riccio on NRL Tonight stated that Curtis is not in the Raiders team to go into the QLD bubble, Raiders take culture seriously and that he is of the belief that Curtis will definitely not play first grade for the Raiders again this year and that most likely he will never play first grade for the Raiders again.

Timoko might be feeling the same way about his prospects

Timoko just has to wait for Croker to get another 600 points.

To put a positive spin on this for Matt Timoko..
It’s only 583 pts.

We've extended 3 outside backs in the last 2 weeks including 2 players who are currently centres, we have a club captain and legend on a long term deal (for how much longer, who knows?), we've sniffed around Hines and Dufty and publically leaked that we'd be interested in moving CNK to the backline to accomidate a fullback if we got one.

the club hasnt leaked even the mildest defence for Scott and earlier this year sacked young players for lying to the club. Where as with his situation last year and Tom Starling, the coach and club offered very early support for those players indicating intention.
They stood him down from all activities, let him piss off to Sydney and didnt even both considering bringing him into Camp QLD with us. And the only comment we've got from media insiders have been to say his career is in serious jeapordy and that he may have played his last game for the club.

I've been wrong before and ill be wrong again. But i will be stunned if he's kept. Everything that has happened since the incident surface leads me to beleive the club is planning its future without Curtis Scott

We've got a glut of kids coming through who have proved they can hold their own and excel, which we didn't have when we signed him.

I doubt he would've been re signed past this deal, but his stupidity has given the club a get out free card

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-PJ- wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 7:12 pm

Roger Kenworthy wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:52 pm

Billy Walker wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:25 pm

Green Blogger wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:22 pm David Riccio on NRL Tonight stated that Curtis is not in the Raiders team to go into the QLD bubble, Raiders take culture seriously and that he is of the belief that Curtis will definitely not play first grade for the Raiders again this year and that most likely he will never play first grade for the Raiders again.

Timoko might be feeling the same way about his prospects

Timoko just has to wait for Croker to get another 600 points.

To put a positive spin on this for Matt Timoko..
It’s only 583 pts.

That will take him at least 3 seasons if we are talking points scored tally and 6 seasons if we are talking SuperCoach points…..

Roger Kenworthy wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:46 pm

Azza wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 5:50 pm He's gone. Good riddance. Worst outside back signing since David Howell and Craig Frawley.

Tbh he's worse. We had nothing to lose with those two signings, it was them or Wolfgramme/Swann.

I was trying to be nice. You always have to ruin it with brutal honesty, don't you.

Azza wrote:

Roger Kenworthy wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:46 pm

Azza wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 5:50 pm He's gone. Good riddance. Worst outside back signing since David Howell and Craig Frawley.

Tbh he's worse. We had nothing to lose with those two signings, it was them or Wolfgramme/Swann.

I was trying to be nice. You always have to ruin it with brutal honesty, don't you.

You're the **** signing on the team Curtis
You didn't have to tell it like it is Marge

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So what’s the betting market on where he is going to show up? ESL would be hot favourite I guess but without too my science or thought I’m going to say he will sign with Manly on a cheap deal. They don’t mind a bad boy and Dylan Walker is looking old.

-TW- wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 7:44 pm

Azza wrote:

Roger Kenworthy wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:46 pm

Azza wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 5:50 pm He's gone. Good riddance. Worst outside back signing since David Howell and Craig Frawley.

Tbh he's worse. We had nothing to lose with those two signings, it was them or Wolfgramme/Swann.

I was trying to be nice. You always have to ruin it with brutal honesty, don't you.

You're the **** signing on the team Curtis
You didn't have to tell it like it is Marge

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Azza wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 7:41 pm

Roger Kenworthy wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:46 pm

Azza wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 5:50 pm He's gone. Good riddance. Worst outside back signing since David Howell and Craig Frawley.

Tbh he's worse. We had nothing to lose with those two signings, it was them or Wolfgramme/Swann.

I was trying to be nice. You always have to ruin it with brutal honesty, don't you.

I need to work on bedside manner.

bonehead wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:47 pm

Billy Walker wrote:

Green Blogger wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 6:22 pm David Riccio on NRL Tonight stated that Curtis is not in the Raiders team to go into the QLD bubble, Raiders take culture seriously and that he is of the belief that Curtis will definitely not play first grade for the Raiders again this year and that most likely he will never play first grade for the Raiders again.

Timoko might be feeling the same way about his prospects

yeah he extended because he can't see a way forward

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Ball firmly wedged into back of net

Bye Curtis. Worst buy since Google bought Motorola.

Truly awful signing. All signs pointed to Timoko being ready last season - enough to be persisted with at least. Should've been given the go after we failed to get Lomax.

Billy Walker wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 7:45 pm So what’s the betting market on where he is going to show up? ESL would be hot favourite I guess but without too my science or thought I’m going to say he will sign with Manly on a cheap deal. They don’t mind a bad boy and Dylan Walker is looking old.

Yeah, because those 2 blokes get on famously….

Rickmando wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 8:34 pm

Billy Walker wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 7:45 pm So what’s the betting market on where he is going to show up? ESL would be hot favourite I guess but without too my science or thought I’m going to say he will sign with Manly on a cheap deal. They don’t mind a bad boy and Dylan Walker is looking old.

Yeah, because those 2 blokes get on famously….

it was the best of times, it was the blurst of times

Botman wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 8:43 pm

Rickmando wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 8:34 pm

Billy Walker wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 7:45 pm So what’s the betting market on where he is going to show up? ESL would be hot favourite I guess but without too my science or thought I’m going to say he will sign with Manly on a cheap deal. They don’t mind a bad boy and Dylan Walker is looking old.

Yeah, because those 2 blokes get on famously….

it was the best of times, it was the blurst of times

Here, I think there's some space on my butt.

Walker niggles him in an opposed session in preseason, Scott decks him

Sacked again before playing a game... 4D chess

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-TW- wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 8:55 pm Walker niggles him in an opposed session in preseason, Scott decks him

Sacked again before playing a game... 4D chess

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OR, they bring him in to get Walker to deck him, sack em both and get out of those contracts?
That's truly 4D chess!

Even Gal and Nate Miles are doing a pizza ad together these days.

Still no statement from the Raiders on the matter... not even posted the story about the NRL breach notice. I've thought for a long time that the Raiders board will terminate the contract.

greeneyed wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 9:11 pm Still no statement from the Raiders on the matter... not even posted the story about the NRL breach notice. I've thought for a long time that the Raiders board will terminate the contract.

That seems to be the common thought but I wouldn’t be shocked if he stayed on

With Scotts and Georgies money we have some spare change to get a decent half like Adam Reynolds , oh wait.

I wouldn't be shocked to see them keep him either, they might not want to upset the apple cart again by canning another player

I think they more likely will punt him, but wouldn't be shocked to see otherwise

Canberra Milk wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 10:48 pm I wouldn't be shocked to see them keep him either, they might not want to upset the apple cart again by canning another player

I think they more likely will punt him, but wouldn't be shocked to see otherwise

Generally terminations are best done carefully but swiftly. Scott will obviously have relationships with players in the squad. Pull that bandaid explain it to the group and move on. But drag it out and don’t be surprised if you get a level of discontent and lose the moral high ground with the group. If he isn’t gone this time next week it’s a fair bet he is staying.

His first two games with us had me excited.
I have not been excited since.
Kris
Timoko
HSS

Best of luck, Curtis.

Billy Walker wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 11:59 pm

Canberra Milk wrote: ↑July 13, 2021, 10:48 pm I wouldn't be shocked to see them keep him either, they might not want to upset the apple cart again by canning another player

I think they more likely will punt him, but wouldn't be shocked to see otherwise

Generally terminations are best done carefully but swiftly. Scott will obviously have relationships with players in the squad. Pull that bandaid explain it to the group and move on. But drag it out and don’t be surprised if you get a level of discontent and lose the moral high ground with the group. If he isn’t gone this time next week it’s a fair bet he is staying.

Unfortunately for you Billy boy, the club isnt operating on your time line, or even Curtis's

They'll do things on their time line and i dont really think Scott's standing with the playing group is going to be any factor in that time line.
This is not a long standing member of the squad with deep ties and roots. He's been here 18 months. Whatever "discontent" comes off a potential sacking of Scott wont bother the club whatsoever.

I think it could be as early as next week, but they may decide to hold off on it until Stuart and the team are out of the QLD hub.
This is not a court of law, and Curtis Scott has no contractual rights to my knowledge to a "speedy trial"... he's in breach of his contract and the club can and will take as much time as they please in deciding his future. Which ever way that goes.

The club saw him through his Oz day stuff up, the resulting police assault case and trauma, his leg break/plate injury and then he wasn't straight with them about breaking some guys nose (allegedly) in another drunken incident.

I think most playing groups would accept Curtis has been plenty of support and respect by the club and it hasn't been shown back. And if they can't see that, their standards need lifting.

Hopefully we have something in his contract that allows us to terminate without too much cost. Standard NRL contracts have a lot of protection for the player.