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So, 12 months ago today I decided to have a little dabble on the ASX, but rather than be sensible with the blue chips, instead splashed some play money around in the small caps shallow end. It's insanely good fun.

So, here's my report a year in:

Best buy - PPK @ 369% up
Worst buy - ESR @ 58% down

Overall - 49.9% up

Best sector - Lithium
Worst sector - Consumer goods

Anyone else into this?
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You want moderation because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that forum -- you need me on that forum. We use words like "stay on topic," "use the appropriate forum," "please delete." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very moderation that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you get a green handle and edit a post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think about moderation.
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Play money. You deserve a punch in the face.
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Azza wrote:Play money. You deserve a punch in the face.
My other vices are very cheap. Allow me this one.
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Son, we live in a world that has forums, and those forums have to be guarded by Mods. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Nickman? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Lucy, and you curse GE. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that GE’s moderation, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, keeps threads on track and under the appropriately sized, highlighted green headings.
You want moderation because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that forum -- you need me on that forum. We use words like "stay on topic," "use the appropriate forum," "please delete." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very moderation that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you get a green handle and edit a post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think about moderation.
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I did this a while ago. At one point I was way ahead and feeling quite cocky. Since then most have fallen into a **** pile.

The biggest roller coaster was Blue Sky (BLA). I got in relatively early at around $2.00 a share. It went from strength to strength and at one point was around the $14.00 mark. I sold out my initial investment value at $12 and sat on the rest. It all came crashing down after a short-seller's report questioning their asset valuations. It went spiralling from there.

https://www.afr.com/companies/financial ... 127-p56x7w
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Northern Raider wrote: August 16, 2021, 2:16 pm I did this a while ago. At one point I was way ahead and feeling quite cocky. Since then most have fallen into a **** pile.

The biggest roller coaster was Blue Sky (BLA). I got in relatively early at around $2.00 a share. It went from strength to strength and at one point was around the $14.00 mark. I sold out my initial investment value at $12 and sat on the rest. It all came crashing down after a short-seller's report questioning their asset valuations. It went spiralling from there.

https://www.afr.com/companies/financial ... 127-p56x7w
Very smart to sell out your original stake.

I feel the market is very overvalued at the moment, too...I think a crash is coming.
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Son, we live in a world that has forums, and those forums have to be guarded by Mods. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Nickman? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Lucy, and you curse GE. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that GE’s moderation, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, keeps threads on track and under the appropriately sized, highlighted green headings.
You want moderation because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that forum -- you need me on that forum. We use words like "stay on topic," "use the appropriate forum," "please delete." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very moderation that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you get a green handle and edit a post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think about moderation.
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T_R wrote: August 16, 2021, 3:18 pm
Northern Raider wrote: August 16, 2021, 2:16 pm I did this a while ago. At one point I was way ahead and feeling quite cocky. Since then most have fallen into a **** pile.

The biggest roller coaster was Blue Sky (BLA). I got in relatively early at around $2.00 a share. It went from strength to strength and at one point was around the $14.00 mark. I sold out my initial investment value at $12 and sat on the rest. It all came crashing down after a short-seller's report questioning their asset valuations. It went spiralling from there.

https://www.afr.com/companies/financial ... 127-p56x7w
Very smart to sell out your original stake.

I feel the market is very overvalued at the moment, too...I think a crash is coming.
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I've spent the last 12 months investing in myself and in my personal growth
The ROI... has not been great.

But more seriously my wife and i did recently start our first investment portfolio... it's a mutual fund, so not stock picking like this, but i've been very interested in delving into the details of what littles bit we've got a piece of... e-gaming is an area we seem to have a nice slice of, so interested to follow it

We've talked about doing something like this, where we take a small amount of out and get a bit silly but we really dont know where to start :lol:
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Botman wrote: August 16, 2021, 3:33 pm I've spent the last 12 months investing in myself and in my personal growth
The ROI... has not been great.

But more seriously my wife and i did recently start our first investment portfolio... it's a mutual fund, so not stock picking like this, but i've been very interested in delving into the details of what littles bit we've got a piece of... e-gaming is an area we seem to have a nice slice of, so interested to follow it

We've talked about doing something like this, where we take a small amount of out and get a bit silly but we really dont know where to start :lol:
Yeah Mrs Fui and I have started as well. We're up to that part in the Barefoot Investor book. Nothing too crazy, it's all about the long term for us. I can't remember the company... but we're basically investing in an investment company. The plan is to put enough in where the dividends are enough to roll over and invest itself.

I've been saying we need to research and find somewhere that is in the synthetic meat business
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I made the mistake of investing in small cap mining stocks. They generally list to raise funds for the early stages of company growth. Usually around exploration, feasibility or establishment (for more mature ventures). Positive news and good will can often see early spikes in value. These always fall again and usually bottom out well below their initial IPO value. They invariably start running out of cash and need further capital raisings, which further dilutes share value. Bottom line is it takes way too long before they start making money. These stocks are for traders only. Not investors.
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Ok so I'm a little more conservative, I went largely blue chip stocks. But as one example I got in when Macquarie Group was at $80 odd during the mayhem last year, it's now $151 odd... not a bad return. Of course most people said I was nuts for buying, but honestly that's when fortunes are made.
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Fuifui Bradbrad wrote: August 16, 2021, 4:02 pm
Botman wrote: August 16, 2021, 3:33 pm I've spent the last 12 months investing in myself and in my personal growth
The ROI... has not been great.

But more seriously my wife and i did recently start our first investment portfolio... it's a mutual fund, so not stock picking like this, but i've been very interested in delving into the details of what littles bit we've got a piece of... e-gaming is an area we seem to have a nice slice of, so interested to follow it

We've talked about doing something like this, where we take a small amount of out and get a bit silly but we really dont know where to start :lol:
Yeah Mrs Fui and I have started as well. We're up to that part in the Barefoot Investor book. Nothing too crazy, it's all about the long term for us. I can't remember the company... but we're basically investing in an investment company. The plan is to put enough in where the dividends are enough to roll over and invest itself.

I've been saying we need to research and find somewhere that is in the synthetic meat business
Yeah we’re just trying to make sure we have a good bit of money so when we retire, we have the means to help do as we please re travel and helping our kids out if they needed etc

And god willing by then, in 2055, we’ll be allowed to travel again
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Botman wrote: August 16, 2021, 6:17 pm
Fuifui Bradbrad wrote: August 16, 2021, 4:02 pm
Botman wrote: August 16, 2021, 3:33 pm I've spent the last 12 months investing in myself and in my personal growth
The ROI... has not been great.

But more seriously my wife and i did recently start our first investment portfolio... it's a mutual fund, so not stock picking like this, but i've been very interested in delving into the details of what littles bit we've got a piece of... e-gaming is an area we seem to have a nice slice of, so interested to follow it

We've talked about doing something like this, where we take a small amount of out and get a bit silly but we really dont know where to start :lol:
Yeah Mrs Fui and I have started as well. We're up to that part in the Barefoot Investor book. Nothing too crazy, it's all about the long term for us. I can't remember the company... but we're basically investing in an investment company. The plan is to put enough in where the dividends are enough to roll over and invest itself.

I've been saying we need to research and find somewhere that is in the synthetic meat business
Yeah we’re just trying to make sure we have a good bit of money so when we retire, we have the means to help do as we please re travel and helping our kids out if they needed etc

And god willing by then, in 2055, we’ll be allowed to travel again
IMO most people don't contribute enough to super, the earlier you start doing that up to the 25k limit, the better. I try and do that every year.
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I have $1000 worth of Vanguard ETFs (Government and Shares Indexes).

I also like to live dangerously.

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Azza wrote: August 16, 2021, 6:25 pm
Botman wrote: August 16, 2021, 6:17 pm
Fuifui Bradbrad wrote: August 16, 2021, 4:02 pm
Botman wrote: August 16, 2021, 3:33 pm I've spent the last 12 months investing in myself and in my personal growth
The ROI... has not been great.

But more seriously my wife and i did recently start our first investment portfolio... it's a mutual fund, so not stock picking like this, but i've been very interested in delving into the details of what littles bit we've got a piece of... e-gaming is an area we seem to have a nice slice of, so interested to follow it

We've talked about doing something like this, where we take a small amount of out and get a bit silly but we really dont know where to start :lol:
Yeah Mrs Fui and I have started as well. We're up to that part in the Barefoot Investor book. Nothing too crazy, it's all about the long term for us. I can't remember the company... but we're basically investing in an investment company. The plan is to put enough in where the dividends are enough to roll over and invest itself.

I've been saying we need to research and find somewhere that is in the synthetic meat business
Yeah we’re just trying to make sure we have a good bit of money so when we retire, we have the means to help do as we please re travel and helping our kids out if they needed etc

And god willing by then, in 2055, we’ll be allowed to travel again
IMO most people don't contribute enough to super, the earlier you start doing that up to the 25k limit, the better. I try and do that every year.
Literally started doing extra contributions this pay for my super
it was a recommendation from our advisor who helped us set up the mutual fund etc
When he broke down how much it ends up being long term, it was a no brainer
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Botman wrote:
Azza wrote: August 16, 2021, 6:25 pm
Botman wrote: August 16, 2021, 6:17 pm
Fuifui Bradbrad wrote: August 16, 2021, 4:02 pm
Botman wrote: August 16, 2021, 3:33 pm I've spent the last 12 months investing in myself and in my personal growth
The ROI... has not been great.

But more seriously my wife and i did recently start our first investment portfolio... it's a mutual fund, so not stock picking like this, but i've been very interested in delving into the details of what littles bit we've got a piece of... e-gaming is an area we seem to have a nice slice of, so interested to follow it

We've talked about doing something like this, where we take a small amount of out and get a bit silly but we really dont know where to start :lol:
Yeah Mrs Fui and I have started as well. We're up to that part in the Barefoot Investor book. Nothing too crazy, it's all about the long term for us. I can't remember the company... but we're basically investing in an investment company. The plan is to put enough in where the dividends are enough to roll over and invest itself.

I've been saying we need to research and find somewhere that is in the synthetic meat business
Yeah we’re just trying to make sure we have a good bit of money so when we retire, we have the means to help do as we please re travel and helping our kids out if they needed etc

And god willing by then, in 2055, we’ll be allowed to travel again
IMO most people don't contribute enough to super, the earlier you start doing that up to the 25k limit, the better. I try and do that every year.
Literally started doing extra contributions this pay for my super
it was a recommendation from our advisor who helped us set up the mutual fund etc
When he broke down how much it ends up being long term, it was a no brainer
Vanguard is the place we invest in!

I’ve been tacking on an extra $50 a fortnight for a few years now. We’re finally in a good spot, where I can just roll my annual pay increase into my Super contribution.
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I do think there is a market correction coming as others have already said. But if you've got time on your side, just invest in something quality (vanguard or betashare etfs aren't a bad start if you want something that tracks the ASX and/or international stock exchanges), forget about it and by the time you need it it should be a solid return.
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Azza wrote: August 16, 2021, 7:27 pm I do think there is a market correction coming as others have already said. But if you've got time on your side, just invest in something quality (vanguard or betashare etfs aren't a bad start if you want something that tracks the ASX and/or international stock exchanges), forget about it and by the time you need it it should be a solid return.
Pffft. Chuck the lot on some random shell company operating in a country that you can't find on a map digging out minerals that you can't pronounce (ASX: IXR). Or, my personal favourite, chuck the kid's uni money on a flooded hole in the ground in Mali (ASX: FFX). Where's the adventure in ETFs?
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Son, we live in a world that has forums, and those forums have to be guarded by Mods. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Nickman? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Lucy, and you curse GE. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that GE’s moderation, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, keeps threads on track and under the appropriately sized, highlighted green headings.
You want moderation because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that forum -- you need me on that forum. We use words like "stay on topic," "use the appropriate forum," "please delete." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very moderation that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you get a green handle and edit a post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think about moderation.
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T_R wrote: August 16, 2021, 7:37 pm
Azza wrote: August 16, 2021, 7:27 pm I do think there is a market correction coming as others have already said. But if you've got time on your side, just invest in something quality (vanguard or betashare etfs aren't a bad start if you want something that tracks the ASX and/or international stock exchanges), forget about it and by the time you need it it should be a solid return.
Pffft. Chuck the lot on some random shell company operating in a country that you can't find on a map digging out minerals that you can't pronounce (ASX: IXR). Or, my personal favourite, chuck the kid's uni money on a flooded hole in the ground in Mali (ASX: FFX). Where's the adventure in ETFs?
I invested money in a b grade **** film company when covid hit. I made 50 rupiah
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Azza wrote: August 16, 2021, 7:57 pm
T_R wrote: August 16, 2021, 7:37 pm
Azza wrote: August 16, 2021, 7:27 pm I do think there is a market correction coming as others have already said. But if you've got time on your side, just invest in something quality (vanguard or betashare etfs aren't a bad start if you want something that tracks the ASX and/or international stock exchanges), forget about it and by the time you need it it should be a solid return.
Pffft. Chuck the lot on some random shell company operating in a country that you can't find on a map digging out minerals that you can't pronounce (ASX: IXR). Or, my personal favourite, chuck the kid's uni money on a flooded hole in the ground in Mali (ASX: FFX). Where's the adventure in ETFs?
I invested money in a b grade **** film company when covid hit. I made 50 rupiah
Is that a lot in $AU?
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I signed up to Jaaims this year (www.jaaimsapp.com), which allows you to pick the stocks and then the technology does the rest, buying and selling when the timing is right.

Results have been good


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I was always suspicious of stock market software. Had it on par with those "investment" software systems that bet on horses. Imagine it would all be about trading and work off small gains/losses to try and turn an overall profit.
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Northern Raider wrote: August 17, 2021, 8:18 am I was always suspicious of stock market software. Had it on par with those "investment" software systems that bet on horses. Imagine it would all be about trading and work off small gains/losses to try and turn an overall profit.
Plus it takes away that sickening feeling in the pit of your stomach when you realise that the share you just sold for $1000 COULD have made you $1050 if you'd just held on another day.

I'd miss that.
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Son, we live in a world that has forums, and those forums have to be guarded by Mods. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Nickman? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Lucy, and you curse GE. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that GE’s moderation, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, keeps threads on track and under the appropriately sized, highlighted green headings.
You want moderation because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that forum -- you need me on that forum. We use words like "stay on topic," "use the appropriate forum," "please delete." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very moderation that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you get a green handle and edit a post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think about moderation.
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T_R wrote: August 17, 2021, 8:54 am
Northern Raider wrote: August 17, 2021, 8:18 am I was always suspicious of stock market software. Had it on par with those "investment" software systems that bet on horses. Imagine it would all be about trading and work off small gains/losses to try and turn an overall profit.
Plus it takes away that sickening feeling in the pit of your stomach when you realise that the share you just sold for $1000 COULD have made you $1050 if you'd just held on another day.

I'd miss that.
Let's put this into perspective. That extra $50 is a carton of beer.
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T_R wrote:
Northern Raider wrote: August 17, 2021, 8:18 am I was always suspicious of stock market software. Had it on par with those "investment" software systems that bet on horses. Imagine it would all be about trading and work off small gains/losses to try and turn an overall profit.
Plus it takes away that sickening feeling in the pit of your stomach when you realise that the share you just sold for $1000 COULD have made you $1050 if you'd just held on another day.

I'd miss that.
That’s what’s good about Jaaims, you don’t have that sickening feeling. You just let it do it’s thing. I think I only log into the app once a week. When I was investing on my own, I live in a world of anxiety checking my account every 15 minutes then selling either to early or too late!


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Northern Raider wrote: August 17, 2021, 10:14 am
T_R wrote: August 17, 2021, 8:54 am
Northern Raider wrote: August 17, 2021, 8:18 am I was always suspicious of stock market software. Had it on par with those "investment" software systems that bet on horses. Imagine it would all be about trading and work off small gains/losses to try and turn an overall profit.
Plus it takes away that sickening feeling in the pit of your stomach when you realise that the share you just sold for $1000 COULD have made you $1050 if you'd just held on another day.

I'd miss that.
Let's put this into perspective. That extra $50 is a carton of beer.
Yeah im not built for those kind of stakes... If i went down that route and my wife ever did the conversion rate from cartons of beer to bottles of wine, she'd stab me where i stood
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I invest my hard earned into a little company called sportsbet, it is into pain and misery, so far return has been -100%.
This place is woke.
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Sid wrote:We really have matured from Gambl0rs
Haha!

Blame it on the Insurance day job, but does this thread require some General Advice warning, or does this fall under the banner of “You do you”?
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Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:
Sid wrote:We really have matured from Gambl0rs
Haha!

Blame it on the Insurance day job, but does this thread require some General Advice warning, or does this fall under the banner of “You do you”?
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Sid wrote: August 17, 2021, 6:05 pm
Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:
Sid wrote:We really have matured from Gambl0rs
Haha!

Blame it on the Insurance day job, but does this thread require some General Advice warning, or does this fall under the banner of “You do you”?
If we labelled this thread with some sort of general advice warning we’d have to do the same with all other GH Threads Image
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PPK just broke 400% for me!

I know no one cares, but neither does my family and I needed to tell SOMEONE
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Son, we live in a world that has forums, and those forums have to be guarded by Mods. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Nickman? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Lucy, and you curse GE. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that GE’s moderation, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, keeps threads on track and under the appropriately sized, highlighted green headings.
You want moderation because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that forum -- you need me on that forum. We use words like "stay on topic," "use the appropriate forum," "please delete." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very moderation that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you get a green handle and edit a post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think about moderation.
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T_R wrote:PPK just broke 400% for me!

I know no one cares, but neither does my family and I needed to tell SOMEONE
I don't care but I've quoted to give you a little something

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Send some my way to increase my care factor
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Willie hears ya, Willie don't care

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