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He's too wealthy to go to jail.
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There’ll be chaos. There’ll be absolute chaos, and violence. But it won’t be on as large a scale as people think, and the law should be able to get it under controlDr Zaius wrote:But which judge is going to convict him?The Nickman wrote:He’s either going to be in jail or he’s going to be President of the United States. And I honestly keep flipping on which one.Dr Zaius wrote:Thoughts on where Trump will be in 3 years time? In a gaol cell? In the oval office? 6 foot under.
The congressional hearings have been damming. The DOJ are clearly going deep in building a case against him over the classified documents.
Will it matter? Is that country so broken that he is untouchable?
It really does look like they’re going to nail him to the wall though, thank ****.
And if they do, what will be the response of his heavily armed red neck supporters?
However, if they DON’T do something now they could face the very unraveling of their democracy if they let the **** back in power… and I think everyone is realising this now
It could all be a moot point anyway… He’s absolutely unraveling over on Truth Social the Last week after the FBI raid, it really is a site to behold
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It is the most trite take ever to marvel at Trump but I had a peek at one of his recent rally videos yesterday.
Just the laziest exhibition of demagoguery and populism imaginable.
Just the laziest exhibition of demagoguery and populism imaginable.
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Just like Bill Clinton, hey?
Didn't stop the likes of Bill Cosby or Epstein from justice.
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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The guy is genuinely a danger to democracy the world over, I’d love nothing more to see the **** locked up tomorrow, just deal with the consequences and his nutjobs when it happens.
Otherwise the problem could be so much worse in another few years, particularly if he gains power again.
Otherwise the problem could be so much worse in another few years, particularly if he gains power again.
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You're deluded mate.
A good bloke? Sure. But misguided
A good bloke? Sure. But misguided
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If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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Of COURSE you’re a Trump supporter dubs, of course you are, but answer me just one question… why?dubby wrote:You're deluded mate.
A good bloke? Sure. But misguided
In fact, answer me another question too… why do you believe all the most **** things? You’re a good guy at heart, why do you support all the most horrible people and nasty beliefs? Makes no sense to me.
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The Nickman wrote: ↑September 2, 2022, 9:57 pmComparing Bill Clinton to Donald Trump is pretty disingenuous, dubs… even for you
Look into the Clinton's mate. They're a morally extinct mob.
Not excusing the Don. I believe all politicians are lying disgusting humans. If I had my way....TR would rule the earth, Fergus would be treasurer and you'd be minister for sport
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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Bill Clinton slept with an intern… Donald Trump incited an armed mob and tried to overturn a democratic election to retain power.dubby wrote:The Nickman wrote: ↑September 2, 2022, 9:57 pmComparing Bill Clinton to Donald Trump is pretty disingenuous, dubs… even for you
Look into the Clinton's mate. They're a morally extinct mob.
Not excusing the Don. I believe all politicians are lying disgusting humans. If I had my way....TR would rule the earth, Fergus would be treasurer and you'd be minister for sport
One of these things is not like the other.
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Wait, wait… are you about to tell me that the world is run by satanic globalist pedophiles?
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Anyone.....ANYONE defending the Clinton's while bashing Trump is blinded by political bias.
Again.... I'm not defending Don.
But both sides are morally inept. It's how it's presented
Again.... I'm not defending Don.
But both sides are morally inept. It's how it's presented
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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That’s absolute garbage dubs, I’m not blinded by political blindness, I’m not even left-wing!
Now you’re just throwing out grade a bullplop
I think if anyone here is misguided by their beliefs… it’s you
Now you’re just throwing out grade a bullplop
I think if anyone here is misguided by their beliefs… it’s you
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The Nickman wrote: ↑September 2, 2022, 10:05 pm Wait, wait… are you about to tell me that the world is run by satanic globalist pedophiles?
Wait what?
No.
I want the world to be run by TR and Fergus.
You'd have a say. Probably build Rocky a huge stadium you dodgy bugger
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If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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Look, TR and Fergus are definitely not pedophiles, but one of them is satanic and the other is a globalist, I’ll let you figure out which is which, but neither of them are **** stars!dubby wrote:The Nickman wrote: ↑September 2, 2022, 10:05 pm Wait, wait… are you about to tell me that the world is run by satanic globalist pedophiles?
Wait what?
No.
I want the world to be run by TR and Fergus.
You'd have a say. Probably build Rocky a huge stadium you dodgy bugger
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Well.
Not recently.
Not recently.
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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Neither of them are liars, idiots, a **** star or a communist
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If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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I think Democracy is having a bit of a **** time lately where self-serving twats are making authoritarian regimes look better than they should.The Nickman wrote:The guy is genuinely a danger to democracy the world over, I’d love nothing more to see the **** locked up tomorrow, just deal with the consequences and his nutjobs when it happens.
Otherwise the problem could be so much worse in another few years, particularly if he gains power again.
Need to make sure people like Trump and ScoMo get what’s coming to them (jail and broad recognition of a failure to advance our country respectively) to get our Democracy back on the rails and electing people who want to improve the place for everyone.
Really need it to be politically unviable for the LNP to have people like Dutton and Joyce in their leadership.
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I hope they don't put Trump in jail. I hope he runs again and gets slaughtered in the polls. That is the best way for the democracy brand to recover. The best possible result is that this happens in the primaries.
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Yeah, agree entirely.Boomercm wrote:I hope they don't put Trump in jail. I hope he runs again and gets slaughtered in the polls. That is the best way for the democracy brand to recover. The best possible result is that this happens in the primaries.
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Look to the mid terms in November as a potential gauge of where things are at. Typically incumbent governments get destroyed.The Nickman wrote: ↑September 3, 2022, 9:03 amYeah, agree entirely.Boomercm wrote:I hope they don't put Trump in jail. I hope he runs again and gets slaughtered in the polls. That is the best way for the democracy brand to recover. The best possible result is that this happens in the primaries.
Apparently there has been a recent uptick in approval for the Dems in light of the trump stuff, Roe v Wade, a slight easing in oil prices and inflation, and a few legislative wins.
If the republicans don’t regain control of congress, it could portend that things may not be tracking that well in MAGA land for 2024.
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How about he runs, gets slaughtered and then gets put in jail?The Nickman wrote:Yeah, agree entirely.Boomercm wrote:I hope they don't put Trump in jail. I hope he runs again and gets slaughtered in the polls. That is the best way for the democracy brand to recover. The best possible result is that this happens in the primaries.
I mean it’d be nice to have signs that Democracy is learning from it’s mistakes and not electing toxic people. Be good news for the future.
But on the flip side I think we also need to see consequences for criminal behaviour. Have confidence that the systems are strong enough to bring justice. Not that if you’ve got enough fans and money, you can sit there, call red blue and do things that undermine society.
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Or he runs…and wins?gangrenous wrote: ↑September 3, 2022, 9:22 amHow about he runs, gets slaughtered and then gets put in jail?The Nickman wrote:Yeah, agree entirely.Boomercm wrote:I hope they don't put Trump in jail. I hope he runs again and gets slaughtered in the polls. That is the best way for the democracy brand to recover. The best possible result is that this happens in the primaries.
I mean it’d be nice to have signs that Democracy is learning from it’s mistakes and not electing toxic people. Be good news for the future.
But on the flip side I think we also need to see consequences for criminal behaviour. Have confidence that the systems are strong enough to bring justice. Not that if you’ve got enough fans and money, you can sit there, call red blue and do things that undermine society.
Non-mandatory voting systems heavily rely on voting base enthusiasm.
2/3s of people might be utterly repulsed by Trump but he could still get up if there is an asymmetry of enthusiasm.
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We’re talking what we’d like to see as opposed to predictions or apocalyptic possibilities
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I'll have one of these thanks.gangrenous wrote:How about he runs, gets slaughtered and then gets put in jail?The Nickman wrote:Yeah, agree entirely.Boomercm wrote:I hope they don't put Trump in jail. I hope he runs again and gets slaughtered in the polls. That is the best way for the democracy brand to recover. The best possible result is that this happens in the primaries.
I mean it’d be nice to have signs that Democracy is learning from it’s mistakes and not electing toxic people. Be good news for the future.
But on the flip side I think we also need to see consequences for criminal behaviour. Have confidence that the systems are strong enough to bring justice. Not that if you’ve got enough fans and money, you can sit there, call red blue and do things that undermine society.
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Enlighten us Dubby. What have the Clintons done that are in any way comparable to Trump?dubby wrote:Anyone.....ANYONE defending the Clinton's while bashing Trump is blinded by political bias.
Again.... I'm not defending Don.
But both sides are morally inept. It's how it's presented
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HOLY ****, did i just stumble into something!
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Indeed. It's just hitting all the classics and people think its something new.Mickey_Raider wrote: ↑September 2, 2022, 9:33 pm It is the most trite take ever to marvel at Trump but I had a peek at one of his recent rally videos yesterday.
Just the laziest exhibition of demagoguery and populism imaginable.
FWIW i dont think he'll get back in, and nor do i think he'll end up in jail... thought maybe he should. I think (perhaps naively so) that this will all sort of peter out. Ive rarely been right on these things though so take that for what it's worth
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Prepare for some pizza gate nonsense.Dr Zaius wrote: ↑September 3, 2022, 11:43 amEnlighten us Dubby. What have the Clintons done that are in any way comparable to Trump?dubby wrote:Anyone.....ANYONE defending the Clinton's while bashing Trump is blinded by political bias.
Again.... I'm not defending Don.
But both sides are morally inept. It's how it's presented
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Nah won’t be president again he’s lost too many Republicans, Desantis will be their next nominee.The Nickman wrote: ↑September 2, 2022, 5:43 pmHe’s either going to be in jail or he’s going to be President of the United States. And I honestly keep flipping on which one.Dr Zaius wrote:Thoughts on where Trump will be in 3 years time? In a gaol cell? In the oval office? 6 foot under.
The congressional hearings have been damming. The DOJ are clearly going deep in building a case against him over the classified documents.
Will it matter? Is that country so broken that he is untouchable?
It really does look like they’re going to nail him to the wall though, thank ****.
Can’t see him going to gaol either unfortunately but I do see him being under house containment (or whatever it’s called).
He’s done too much with the records to get away with it or be president again.
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Add to that stole classified documents which has potentially put the US at high security risk.The Nickman wrote: ↑September 2, 2022, 10:02 pmBill Clinton slept with an intern… Donald Trump incited an armed mob and tried to overturn a democratic election to retain power.dubby wrote:The Nickman wrote: ↑September 2, 2022, 9:57 pmComparing Bill Clinton to Donald Trump is pretty disingenuous, dubs… even for you
Look into the Clinton's mate. They're a morally extinct mob.
Not excusing the Don. I believe all politicians are lying disgusting humans. If I had my way....TR would rule the earth, Fergus would be treasurer and you'd be minister for sport
One of these things is not like the other.
I bow down to thee oh great Nickman, the wisest of the wise, your political adroitness is unsurpassed, your sagacity is unmatched, your wisdom shines through on this forum amongst us mere mortals as bright as your scalp under the light of a full moon, never shall I doubt your analytical prowess again. You are my hero, my lord, my savior, may you accept my offerings so you continue to bless us with your genius.
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IMO They will never put an ex-president or current president for that matter in goal. It would just make the US look weak and destabilase the country.
I think the best you can hope for is charges bought against him, hopefully taking the wind out of his sails coming up to the election.
I think the best you can hope for is charges bought against him, hopefully taking the wind out of his sails coming up to the election.
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Not locking him up makes them look even weaker, he stole top secret nuclear documents and who knows what he did with them, last people who stole nuclear information were executed.Riaan wrote: ↑September 7, 2022, 12:36 pm IMO They will never put an ex-president or current president for that matter in goal. It would just make the US look weak and destabilase the country.
I think the best you can hope for is charges bought against him, hopefully taking the wind out of his sails coming up to the election.
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Is it too much to hope for EDIT?Manbush wrote:Not locking him up makes them look even weaker, he stole top secret nuclear documents and who knows what he did with them, last people who stole nuclear information were executed.Riaan wrote: ↑September 7, 2022, 12:36 pm IMO They will never put an ex-president or current president for that matter in goal. It would just make the US look weak and destabilase the country.
I think the best you can hope for is charges bought against him, hopefully taking the wind out of his sails coming up to the election.
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Regardless he won’t be seeing the inside of a prison cell. People thinking he will are getting their hopes and will be pretty disappointed. Even if it’s all true.Manbush wrote: ↑September 7, 2022, 3:12 pmNot locking him up makes them look even weaker, he stole top secret nuclear documents and who knows what he did with them, last people who stole nuclear information were executed.Riaan wrote: ↑September 7, 2022, 12:36 pm IMO They will never put an ex-president or current president for that matter in goal. It would just make the US look weak and destabilase the country.
I think the best you can hope for is charges bought against him, hopefully taking the wind out of his sails coming up to the election.