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That is a great contribution Hong Kong Raider. Thank you. Interesting that Papa and Taps not rated by Gallen in the Top 5 Props this year. Raiders spending focus is on 9 and 6 which looks right. We have underspent on the 1 and 7 positions but the salaries are probably right for the 2022 contribution. I am surprised that the players who handle the football more than anyone else - Hookers, who also have a high defensive load, are paid less on average than Props who may only spend 30 to 50 minutes on the park in each match.
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That’s the average salary of the top 5 centres. Based on that table the average center is on 300k range.
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Ah my mistake. Still massive overs then, considering he'll likely never crack first grade again. At least not here.Crash Ball wrote: ↑May 1, 2022, 2:17 pmThat’s the average salary of the top 5 centres. Based on that table the average center is on 300k range.
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Schuster is agitating to be a 5/8. You'd have to play him there. If he fails, you might be able to move him wider again, but you would probably need to give him a yr at 6.gergreg wrote: ↑April 30, 2022, 2:37 pmI'd go all in on Schuster. He is probably too big and not quite quick enough for 5/8 but we need ... not another ... "a" ballplaying option and Schuster has that in spades. Manly has him, Olakatoa (however you spell it), Bullemor and Ben Trobeyvic all vying for the second row. They won't get rid of Ben for obvious reasons - and I thought that was his best game so far last night. There were a few nice things from him. The big Olakatoa is a beast - if we can't get Schuster you go for him but Schuster would be the number 1 second rower to go for.Raiders_Pat wrote:Yep. I do recognise it's a bit of a pipe dream though when it comes to our club. We haven't made any ambitious signings like this in a while.
Agree with Pig, Tago looks worth a crack too and I'm sure there's other fringe players at Panthers you go for. Buy two.
I don't think we need to go too crazy with recruitment. We have some good pieces. Fogarty and HSS were huge losses this year. We can't use Hodgson leaving as an excuse because the club really didn't want him. But as Nickman said elsewhere (paraphrasing here) we do have some players that are good enough but they're not playing to their best. We need a new coach.
For all the recent criticism of the fans turning on the club, of course I don't have the inside knowledge, but the criticism from the fans I imagine is exactly the areas that coaches at the better clubs would be levelling directly at their players. Does anybody believe that Bellamy or Robinson would put up with the way our players have been performing this year and last? There's no way in hell. Our players have adopted Jack's infamous 'still got paid' mentality. Their **** phoning it in because the club is currently lacking any personal accountability.
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Yeah still can’t pass, is struggling to catch and has been shown up badly on goal line defence. If he was put on the open market tomorrow who is taking him?greeneyed wrote: ↑April 30, 2022, 1:19 pm Some facts about CNK… he was man of the match six times in 2019, a year when the Raiders made the Grand Final.
“Nicoll-Klokstad ended the 2019 season with 11 tries, second only to Jarrod Croker at the Raiders. He ranked fourth in the try scoring stakes amongst his fellow fullbacks. Nicoll-Klokstad finished second in the NRL, to James Tedesco, for total running metres and finished first for kick return metres. He was in the top 10 players for running metres per game, and first for kick return metres per game amongst the regular fullbacks. He made five in goal escapes, more than any player in the NRL. He was seventh in the NRL for total tackle breaks - and first at the Raiders. The area where he'll be no doubt looking to improve is his ball playing. He had four try assists for the season, and three try contributions, but that was well down the list of fullbacks. He still finished fourth at the Raiders for total try involvements.”
https://thegh.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33729
He was MOTM three times in 2020.
“Nicoll-Klokstad ended the 2020 season with seven tries, compared with 11 in 2019 - meaning his strike rate was slightly down. He ranked equal third at the Raiders in the try scoring stakes - behind Nick Cotric and Jack Wighton - and eighth amongst the regular NRL fullbacks.
In 2019, Nicoll-Klokstad finished second in the NRL, to James Tedesco, for total running metres and finished first for kick return metres. This year, he dropped to seventh for running metres and eighth for kick return metres. He also dropped out of the top 10 players for average running metres and kick return metres per game. Last year, "CNK" was seventh in the NRL for total tackle breaks and first at the Raiders. However, in 2020, he dropped outside the top 20 players in the NRL in that department. He has worked on his ball playing. But with just four try assists for the season, he was well behind the benchmark fullbacks like Gutherson (19), Ponga (16), Dufty and Tedesco (15). It's something he'll want to continue to work on.”
https://thegh.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34319
“Nicoll-Klokstad ended up making eight appearances for the Green Machine in 2021, six starting at fullback and two from the bench. He was sorely missed by the team - and I believe his absence was a major reason for the Raiders missing the finals.
Comparing CNK's 2021 statistics with those of previous seasons is very difficult. Not only did he make only eight appearances, he only played around 25 minutes in two matches, and 60 in another. His numbers on a per game basis, however, compare remarkably well with 2020. He still finished first at the club for running metres per game - level with Jordan Rapana - and second for kick return metres. He was also amongst the top four Raiders for tackle breaks per game.”
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The suggestion CNK’s form this year is anything like his form/contributions in other seasons, prior to his injury… well, it’s just not correct. And he was certainly better than an average fullback.
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As the teams ran out on the weekend Blocker Roach (not that he is a great mind of the game) said Papalli was probably getting a bit long in the tooth now. I’d say he’s still been one of our best all season but that is an interesting take. I wonder if we sometimes do rate him against a lower standard because he’s a lovable big dude that always has a go. Does he still stack up against Fisher-Harris, Haas and some of the other guys getting around? I wouldn’t have said Papa was a problem but Gallen, Blocker and others haven’t got the same green goggles on that we might.RedRaider wrote: ↑May 1, 2022, 1:19 pm That is a great contribution Hong Kong Raider. Thank you. Interesting that Papa and Taps not rated by Gallen in the Top 5 Props this year. Raiders spending focus is on 9 and 6 which looks right. We have underspent on the 1 and 7 positions but the salaries are probably right for the 2022 contribution. I am surprised that the players who handle the football more than anyone else - Hookers, who also have a high defensive load, are paid less on average than Props who may only spend 30 to 50 minutes on the park in each match.
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Interesting article. Heat being applied.
2022 over already: Time for change in Canberra as Raiders slump again
The Canberra Raiders have lost five straight games, and the bitter reality facing the green machine is that they are currently among the worst teams in the competition. That's not to say they are the worst team on paper.
On paper, they still have nine players left over from the 2019 NRL grand final loss to the Sydney Roosters, being Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad, Jordan Rapana, Nick Cotric, Jack Wighton, Josh Papalii, Elliott Whitehead, Joseph Tapine, Emre Guler and Corey Horsburgh. The problem is that, in the space of less than two and a half seasons, most of those nine players have fallen off the side of a cliff when it comes to their form.
Read more: https://www.zerotackle.com/2022-over-al ... in-117013/
2022 over already: Time for change in Canberra as Raiders slump again
The Canberra Raiders have lost five straight games, and the bitter reality facing the green machine is that they are currently among the worst teams in the competition. That's not to say they are the worst team on paper.
On paper, they still have nine players left over from the 2019 NRL grand final loss to the Sydney Roosters, being Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad, Jordan Rapana, Nick Cotric, Jack Wighton, Josh Papalii, Elliott Whitehead, Joseph Tapine, Emre Guler and Corey Horsburgh. The problem is that, in the space of less than two and a half seasons, most of those nine players have fallen off the side of a cliff when it comes to their form.
Read more: https://www.zerotackle.com/2022-over-al ... in-117013/
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Quite possibly, but often it's about money. His manager looking for an upgraded deal? It's worth making some enquiries regardless.Matt wrote:Schuster is agitating to be a 5/8. You'd have to play him there. If he fails, you might be able to move him wider again, but you would probably need to give him a yr at 6.gergreg wrote: ↑April 30, 2022, 2:37 pmI'd go all in on Schuster. He is probably too big and not quite quick enough for 5/8 but we need ... not another ... "a" ballplaying option and Schuster has that in spades. Manly has him, Olakatoa (however you spell it), Bullemor and Ben Trobeyvic all vying for the second row. They won't get rid of Ben for obvious reasons - and I thought that was his best game so far last night. There were a few nice things from him. The big Olakatoa is a beast - if we can't get Schuster you go for him but Schuster would be the number 1 second rower to go for.Raiders_Pat wrote:Yep. I do recognise it's a bit of a pipe dream though when it comes to our club. We haven't made any ambitious signings like this in a while.
Agree with Pig, Tago looks worth a crack too and I'm sure there's other fringe players at Panthers you go for. Buy two.
I don't think we need to go too crazy with recruitment. We have some good pieces. Fogarty and HSS were huge losses this year. We can't use Hodgson leaving as an excuse because the club really didn't want him. But as Nickman said elsewhere (paraphrasing here) we do have some players that are good enough but they're not playing to their best. We need a new coach.
For all the recent criticism of the fans turning on the club, of course I don't have the inside knowledge, but the criticism from the fans I imagine is exactly the areas that coaches at the better clubs would be levelling directly at their players. Does anybody believe that Bellamy or Robinson would put up with the way our players have been performing this year and last? There's no way in hell. Our players have adopted Jack's infamous 'still got paid' mentality. Their **** phoning it in because the club is currently lacking any personal accountability.
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Doesn’t count Croker from the 2019 GF.
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Thinks Josh Hodgson signed with Wests
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You never know what the situation is in reality. He could have accepted less money for an opportunity to play 6. I don't think we'd necessarily have to play him at 6, we'd just need to come up with the extra money to give him the upgrade he's entitled to. I suspect he's on relatively low coin.Matt wrote: ↑May 1, 2022, 8:47 pmSchuster is agitating to be a 5/8. You'd have to play him there. If he fails, you might be able to move him wider again, but you would probably need to give him a yr at 6.gergreg wrote: ↑April 30, 2022, 2:37 pmI'd go all in on Schuster. He is probably too big and not quite quick enough for 5/8 but we need ... not another ... "a" ballplaying option and Schuster has that in spades. Manly has him, Olakatoa (however you spell it), Bullemor and Ben Trobeyvic all vying for the second row. They won't get rid of Ben for obvious reasons - and I thought that was his best game so far last night. There were a few nice things from him. The big Olakatoa is a beast - if we can't get Schuster you go for him but Schuster would be the number 1 second rower to go for.Raiders_Pat wrote:Yep. I do recognise it's a bit of a pipe dream though when it comes to our club. We haven't made any ambitious signings like this in a while.
Agree with Pig, Tago looks worth a crack too and I'm sure there's other fringe players at Panthers you go for. Buy two.
I don't think we need to go too crazy with recruitment. We have some good pieces. Fogarty and HSS were huge losses this year. We can't use Hodgson leaving as an excuse because the club really didn't want him. But as Nickman said elsewhere (paraphrasing here) we do have some players that are good enough but they're not playing to their best. We need a new coach.
For all the recent criticism of the fans turning on the club, of course I don't have the inside knowledge, but the criticism from the fans I imagine is exactly the areas that coaches at the better clubs would be levelling directly at their players. Does anybody believe that Bellamy or Robinson would put up with the way our players have been performing this year and last? There's no way in hell. Our players have adopted Jack's infamous 'still got paid' mentality. Their **** phoning it in because the club is currently lacking any personal accountability.
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Papalii isnt the problem.Billy Walker wrote: ↑May 1, 2022, 9:18 pmAs the teams ran out on the weekend Blocker Roach (not that he is a great mind of the game) said Papalli was probably getting a bit long in the tooth now. I’d say he’s still been one of our best all season but that is an interesting take. I wonder if we sometimes do rate him against a lower standard because he’s a lovable big dude that always has a go. Does he still stack up against Fisher-Harris, Haas and some of the other guys getting around? I wouldn’t have said Papa was a problem but Gallen, Blocker and others haven’t got the same green goggles on that we might.RedRaider wrote: ↑May 1, 2022, 1:19 pm That is a great contribution Hong Kong Raider. Thank you. Interesting that Papa and Taps not rated by Gallen in the Top 5 Props this year. Raiders spending focus is on 9 and 6 which looks right. We have underspent on the 1 and 7 positions but the salaries are probably right for the 2022 contribution. I am surprised that the players who handle the football more than anyone else - Hookers, who also have a high defensive load, are paid less on average than Props who may only spend 30 to 50 minutes on the park in each match.
His contract is high but he was good on the weekend and tbh he is probably worth what we are paying him..
I think he runs out till 2024 and I think he has another two good years in him, I don't think we resign him past that point.
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No arguments from mepapabear wrote: ↑May 2, 2022, 10:13 amPapalii isnt the problem.Billy Walker wrote: ↑May 1, 2022, 9:18 pmAs the teams ran out on the weekend Blocker Roach (not that he is a great mind of the game) said Papalli was probably getting a bit long in the tooth now. I’d say he’s still been one of our best all season but that is an interesting take. I wonder if we sometimes do rate him against a lower standard because he’s a lovable big dude that always has a go. Does he still stack up against Fisher-Harris, Haas and some of the other guys getting around? I wouldn’t have said Papa was a problem but Gallen, Blocker and others haven’t got the same green goggles on that we might.RedRaider wrote: ↑May 1, 2022, 1:19 pm That is a great contribution Hong Kong Raider. Thank you. Interesting that Papa and Taps not rated by Gallen in the Top 5 Props this year. Raiders spending focus is on 9 and 6 which looks right. We have underspent on the 1 and 7 positions but the salaries are probably right for the 2022 contribution. I am surprised that the players who handle the football more than anyone else - Hookers, who also have a high defensive load, are paid less on average than Props who may only spend 30 to 50 minutes on the park in each match.
His contract is high but he was good on the weekend and tbh he is probably worth what we are paying him..
I think he runs out till 2024 and I think he has another two good years in him, I don't think we resign him past that point.
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Umm... He re-signed just recrntly, on decent to good coin, for rookie, to play 6. That's why he is agitating.Raiders_Pat wrote: ↑May 2, 2022, 7:57 amYou never know what the situation is in reality. He could have accepted less money for an opportunity to play 6. I don't think we'd necessarily have to play him at 6, we'd just need to come up with the extra money to give him the upgrade he's entitled to. I suspect he's on relatively low coin.Matt wrote: ↑May 1, 2022, 8:47 pmSchuster is agitating to be a 5/8. You'd have to play him there. If he fails, you might be able to move him wider again, but you would probably need to give him a yr at 6.gergreg wrote: ↑April 30, 2022, 2:37 pmI'd go all in on Schuster. He is probably too big and not quite quick enough for 5/8 but we need ... not another ... "a" ballplaying option and Schuster has that in spades. Manly has him, Olakatoa (however you spell it), Bullemor and Ben Trobeyvic all vying for the second row. They won't get rid of Ben for obvious reasons - and I thought that was his best game so far last night. There were a few nice things from him. The big Olakatoa is a beast - if we can't get Schuster you go for him but Schuster would be the number 1 second rower to go for.Raiders_Pat wrote:Yep. I do recognise it's a bit of a pipe dream though when it comes to our club. We haven't made any ambitious signings like this in a while.
Agree with Pig, Tago looks worth a crack too and I'm sure there's other fringe players at Panthers you go for. Buy two.
I don't think we need to go too crazy with recruitment. We have some good pieces. Fogarty and HSS were huge losses this year. We can't use Hodgson leaving as an excuse because the club really didn't want him. But as Nickman said elsewhere (paraphrasing here) we do have some players that are good enough but they're not playing to their best. We need a new coach.
For all the recent criticism of the fans turning on the club, of course I don't have the inside knowledge, but the criticism from the fans I imagine is exactly the areas that coaches at the better clubs would be levelling directly at their players. Does anybody believe that Bellamy or Robinson would put up with the way our players have been performing this year and last? There's no way in hell. Our players have adopted Jack's infamous 'still got paid' mentality. Their **** phoning it in because the club is currently lacking any personal accountability.
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I think we should poach the Cowboys Head of Football Micheal Luck
https://www.cowboys.com.au/news/2020/10 ... -football/
Ricky has been saying for ages we just need a bit of luck.
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Ricky has been saying for ages we just need a bit of luck.
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I was watching 100% Footy and they had Gus and Michael Chammas (who wrote the article in SMH regarding the salary cap and average salaries) explain how the best clubs pay less for their players / get the most value out of the money they pay for players. Gus mentioned that if the Melbourne Storm players or Penrith went on the open market, clubs would pay in excess of $13 million for their roster. I agree with this - Papenhuyzen, Jerome Hughes, Olam, Brandon Smith and Harry Grant would get a lot more than their current contract prices. Same with Penrith's Yeo, Luai, Edwards, To'o, May and Tago.
How much do you think our players would be collectively worth on the market ?
Except for Papa, Tapine, and perhaps Jack, there would be very few takers of our players on their current contract prices.
How much do you think our players would be collectively worth on the market ?
Except for Papa, Tapine, and perhaps Jack, there would be very few takers of our players on their current contract prices.
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Here's the link to the discussion if you're interested:
How the best NRL clubs manage their salary cap
How the best NRL clubs manage their salary cap
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Doesn't matter who we can recruit with Ricky as coach. Can see how well players that have left us do outside our system, so that tells me all I need to know
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We have a system?Neeeegz wrote:Doesn't matter who we can recruit with Ricky as coach. Can see how well players that have left us do outside our system, so that tells me all I need to know
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Choosing not to have a system has to be a system yeah?Azza wrote:We have a system?Neeeegz wrote:Doesn't matter who we can recruit with Ricky as coach. Can see how well players that have left us do outside our system, so that tells me all I need to know
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2 years ago when we were a top 4 team I would say quite a lot. Dogs paid overs for Cotric. Tigers same with Leilua. Right now their value is diminished. It's all relative to performance of the team and individuals at the time.Hong Kong Raider wrote: ↑May 3, 2022, 5:56 pm I was watching 100% Footy and they had Gus and Michael Chammas (who wrote the article in SMH regarding the salary cap and average salaries) explain how the best clubs pay less for their players / get the most value out of the money they pay for players. Gus mentioned that if the Melbourne Storm players or Penrith went on the open market, clubs would pay in excess of $13 million for their roster. I agree with this - Papenhuyzen, Jerome Hughes, Olam, Brandon Smith and Harry Grant would get a lot more than their current contract prices. Same with Penrith's Yeo, Luai, Edwards, To'o, May and Tago.
How much do you think our players would be collectively worth on the market ?
Except for Papa, Tapine, and perhaps Jack, there would be very few takers of our players on their current contract prices.
Storm are more the exception than the norm. Players all seem to hit their peak in that system.
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buy great players for under the market value - checkHong Kong Raider wrote: ↑May 3, 2022, 5:56 pm I was watching 100% Footy and they had Gus and Michael Chammas (who wrote the article in SMH regarding the salary cap and average salaries) explain how the best clubs pay less for their players / get the most value out of the money they pay for players. Gus mentioned that if the Melbourne Storm players or Penrith went on the open market, clubs would pay in excess of $13 million for their roster. I agree with this - Papenhuyzen, Jerome Hughes, Olam, Brandon Smith and Harry Grant would get a lot more than their current contract prices. Same with Penrith's Yeo, Luai, Edwards, To'o, May and Tago.
How much do you think our players would be collectively worth on the market ?
Except for Papa, Tapine, and perhaps Jack, there would be very few takers of our players on their current contract prices.
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The Daily Telegraph recently published the salaries of all spines. Too much for Hodgson but can understand that value based on his past performances for us…
BRONCOS
Te Maire Martin 80k
Tyson Gamble 150k
Adam Reynolds 800k
Billy Walters 120k
Total - $1.15m
BULLDOGS
Matt Dufty 200k
Matt Burton 500k
Kyle Flanagan 450k
Jeremy Marshall-King 350k
Total - $1.5m
COWBOYS
Hamiso Tabuai-Fidow 450k
Tom Dearden 400k
Chad Townsend 800k
Reece Robson 450k
Total - $2.1m
DRAGONS
Tyrrell Sloan 220k
Junior Amone 350k
Ben Hunt 1.2m
Andrew McCullough 400k
Total - $2.14m
EELS
Clint Gutherson 750k
Dylan Brown 800k
Mitch Moses 900k
Reed Mahoney 450k
Total - $2.9m
KNIGHTS
Kalyn Ponga 1.05m
Jake Clifford 300k
Adam Clune 180k
Jayden Brailey 500k
Total - $1.985m
PANTHERS
Dylan Edwards 500k
Jarome Luai 700k
Nathan Cleary 1.1m
Api Koroisau 600k
Total - $2.9m
RABBITOHS
Latrell Mitchell 850k
Cody Walker 700k
Lachlan Illias 300k
Damien Cook 700k
Total - $2.55m
RAIDERS
CNK 500k
Jack Wighton 850k
Jamal Fogarty 550k
Josh Hodgson 800k
Total - $2.7m
ROOSTERS
James Tedesco 1.1m
Sam Walker 400k
Luke Keary 800k
Sam Verrils 450k
Total - $2.75m
SEA EAGLES
Tom Trbojevic 1.1m
Keiran Foran 250k
DCE 1.2m
Lachlan Croker 300k
Total - $2.85m
SHARKS
Will Kennedy 400k
Matt Moylan 450k
Nicho Hynes 600k
Blayke Brailey 500k
Totak - $1.95m
STORM
Ryan Papenhyzen 650k
Cam Munster 1m
Jarome Hughes 700k
Harry Grant 450k
Totak - $2.8m
TIGERS
Daine Laurie 450k
Luke Brooks 960k
Jackson Hastings 500k
Jake Simpkin 150k
Total - $2.06m
TITANS
Jayden Campbell 350k
AJ Brimson 600k
Toby Sexton 400k
Erin Clarke 300k
Total - $1.65m
WARRIORS
Reece Walsh 350k
CHT 300k
Shaun Johnson 500k
Wade Egan 400k
Total - $1.55m
BRONCOS
Te Maire Martin 80k
Tyson Gamble 150k
Adam Reynolds 800k
Billy Walters 120k
Total - $1.15m
BULLDOGS
Matt Dufty 200k
Matt Burton 500k
Kyle Flanagan 450k
Jeremy Marshall-King 350k
Total - $1.5m
COWBOYS
Hamiso Tabuai-Fidow 450k
Tom Dearden 400k
Chad Townsend 800k
Reece Robson 450k
Total - $2.1m
DRAGONS
Tyrrell Sloan 220k
Junior Amone 350k
Ben Hunt 1.2m
Andrew McCullough 400k
Total - $2.14m
EELS
Clint Gutherson 750k
Dylan Brown 800k
Mitch Moses 900k
Reed Mahoney 450k
Total - $2.9m
KNIGHTS
Kalyn Ponga 1.05m
Jake Clifford 300k
Adam Clune 180k
Jayden Brailey 500k
Total - $1.985m
PANTHERS
Dylan Edwards 500k
Jarome Luai 700k
Nathan Cleary 1.1m
Api Koroisau 600k
Total - $2.9m
RABBITOHS
Latrell Mitchell 850k
Cody Walker 700k
Lachlan Illias 300k
Damien Cook 700k
Total - $2.55m
RAIDERS
CNK 500k
Jack Wighton 850k
Jamal Fogarty 550k
Josh Hodgson 800k
Total - $2.7m
ROOSTERS
James Tedesco 1.1m
Sam Walker 400k
Luke Keary 800k
Sam Verrils 450k
Total - $2.75m
SEA EAGLES
Tom Trbojevic 1.1m
Keiran Foran 250k
DCE 1.2m
Lachlan Croker 300k
Total - $2.85m
SHARKS
Will Kennedy 400k
Matt Moylan 450k
Nicho Hynes 600k
Blayke Brailey 500k
Totak - $1.95m
STORM
Ryan Papenhyzen 650k
Cam Munster 1m
Jarome Hughes 700k
Harry Grant 450k
Totak - $2.8m
TIGERS
Daine Laurie 450k
Luke Brooks 960k
Jackson Hastings 500k
Jake Simpkin 150k
Total - $2.06m
TITANS
Jayden Campbell 350k
AJ Brimson 600k
Toby Sexton 400k
Erin Clarke 300k
Total - $1.65m
WARRIORS
Reece Walsh 350k
CHT 300k
Shaun Johnson 500k
Wade Egan 400k
Total - $1.55m
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- Jason Croker
- Posts: 4264
- Joined: April 13, 2005, 2:22 pm
- Favourite Player: Laurie Daley
Re: Recruitment and retention
Ponga the biggest myth in the game...
Storm are having a laugh at that quoted Grant salary....
Storm are having a laugh at that quoted Grant salary....
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- Jason Croker
- Posts: 4751
- Joined: April 15, 2009, 10:38 am
- Favourite Player: Matt Timoko
- Location: Queanbo
Re: Recruitment and retention
For all of our success in the 2015-2019 era of Ricky recruiting, have to saying 2020-2023 + beyond is very bleak.
It's been fostered in by poor choices in retention, tying up big money to aging players meaning we aren't using the money to go to market.
It's been fostered in by poor choices in retention, tying up big money to aging players meaning we aren't using the money to go to market.
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- Laurie Daley
- Posts: 12389
- Joined: April 29, 2017, 7:22 pm
- Favourite Player: Ashley Gilbert
Re: Recruitment and retention
Yep - just the wrong emphasis on things. Values on traditions, links to players past, and rewarding longevity like it’s a family rather than a football club. Like it or hate it there is a huge bond and culture running through the Penrith team and it’s not based on how well they can recall Royce Simmons or John Cartwright’s career stats. They don’t pay a good bloke tax on guys like Maloney, Tamou or others, they move them on and find winners and success.
Re: Recruitment and retention
If we are paying Fogarty $550k then by jingo his manager earnt every penny. Bloke is marginally ahead of Frawley.Hong Kong Raider wrote: ↑May 29, 2022, 11:31 pm The Daily Telegraph recently published the salaries of all spines. Too much for Hodgson but can understand that value based on his past performances for us…
BRONCOS
Te Maire Martin 80k
Tyson Gamble 150k
Adam Reynolds 800k
Billy Walters 120k
Total - $1.15m
BULLDOGS
Matt Dufty 200k
Matt Burton 500k
Kyle Flanagan 450k
Jeremy Marshall-King 350k
Total - $1.5m
COWBOYS
Hamiso Tabuai-Fidow 450k
Tom Dearden 400k
Chad Townsend 800k
Reece Robson 450k
Total - $2.1m
DRAGONS
Tyrrell Sloan 220k
Junior Amone 350k
Ben Hunt 1.2m
Andrew McCullough 400k
Total - $2.14m
EELS
Clint Gutherson 750k
Dylan Brown 800k
Mitch Moses 900k
Reed Mahoney 450k
Total - $2.9m
KNIGHTS
Kalyn Ponga 1.05m
Jake Clifford 300k
Adam Clune 180k
Jayden Brailey 500k
Total - $1.985m
PANTHERS
Dylan Edwards 500k
Jarome Luai 700k
Nathan Cleary 1.1m
Api Koroisau 600k
Total - $2.9m
RABBITOHS
Latrell Mitchell 850k
Cody Walker 700k
Lachlan Illias 300k
Damien Cook 700k
Total - $2.55m
RAIDERS
CNK 500k
Jack Wighton 850k
Jamal Fogarty 550k
Josh Hodgson 800k
Total - $2.7m
ROOSTERS
James Tedesco 1.1m
Sam Walker 400k
Luke Keary 800k
Sam Verrils 450k
Total - $2.75m
SEA EAGLES
Tom Trbojevic 1.1m
Keiran Foran 250k
DCE 1.2m
Lachlan Croker 300k
Total - $2.85m
SHARKS
Will Kennedy 400k
Matt Moylan 450k
Nicho Hynes 600k
Blayke Brailey 500k
Totak - $1.95m
STORM
Ryan Papenhyzen 650k
Cam Munster 1m
Jarome Hughes 700k
Harry Grant 450k
Totak - $2.8m
TIGERS
Daine Laurie 450k
Luke Brooks 960k
Jackson Hastings 500k
Jake Simpkin 150k
Total - $2.06m
TITANS
Jayden Campbell 350k
AJ Brimson 600k
Toby Sexton 400k
Erin Clarke 300k
Total - $1.65m
WARRIORS
Reece Walsh 350k
CHT 300k
Shaun Johnson 500k
Wade Egan 400k
Total - $1.55m
Re: Recruitment and retention
What has Kelly Egan done since getting here? In all honestly, he has been non-existent.
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- Jason Croker
- Posts: 4690
- Joined: August 28, 2016, 6:19 pm
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Re: Recruitment and retention
Fogarty isn't a $500,000 half - he cannot run, pass or kick. He adds little to our attack. The kick in the second half over the dead ball line reminded me of Sezer
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- John Ferguson
- Posts: 2049
- Joined: July 24, 2016, 8:11 am
- Favourite Player: Josh Papalii
Re: Recruitment and retention
I thought he was paid around the $350k markHong Kong Raider wrote: ↑July 4, 2022, 12:48 am Fogarty isn't a $500,000 half - he cannot run, pass or kick. He adds little to our attack. The kick in the second half over the dead ball line reminded me of Sezer
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- Mal Meninga
- Posts: 51011
- Joined: June 25, 2012, 9:53 am
- Favourite Player: Hodgo
- Location: Rockhampton, Central Queensland
Re: Recruitment and retention
And yet he's still our best half right now, and has a better winning record over the past two months than our other, much higher paid half.Hong Kong Raider wrote: ↑July 4, 2022, 12:48 am Fogarty isn't a $500,000 half - he cannot run, pass or kick. He adds little to our attack. The kick in the second half over the dead ball line reminded me of Sezer
Go figure.
Re: Recruitment and retention
Yep he's a better half because we've won a higher percentage of games with him.
Similarly, we were doing well until CNK got injured last year, therefore his absence must explain how badly we went thereafter.
Figure go.
Similarly, we were doing well until CNK got injured last year, therefore his absence must explain how badly we went thereafter.
Figure go.
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- Laurie Daley
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Recruitment and retention
With the RBA putting up interest rates again today it pleases me that I can live rent free in your headafgtnk wrote:Similarly, we were doing well until CNK got injured last year, therefore his absence must explain how badly we went thereafter.
Re: Recruitment and retention
Was kind of a dig at Nickman, actually. Awkward.
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- Laurie Daley
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