gangrenous wrote: ↑April 25, 2022, 3:39 pm
RedRaider wrote:gangrenous wrote: ↑April 25, 2022, 1:33 pm
RedRaider wrote:gangrenous wrote: ↑April 25, 2022, 11:29 am
Umm folks… as soon as you lift a player off the ground it’s automatically held.
That’s why there was the ‘early’ call on CHN, the player was lifted and that was then held.
Refs need to make sure they’re not allowing teams to keep driving players back after lifting, which I’d say the Panthers got too much leeway with last night.
That's not quite right gangrenous.
Under the Laws of the Game:
Tackle and Play the Ball
Notes:
Moving tackled 2. (a) Where opponents do not make a tackle effective in the
player quickest possible manner but attempt to push, pull or
carry the player in possession, it is permissible for
colleagues of the tackled player to lend their weight in
order to avoid losing ground. Immediately this happens
the referee should call “Held”.
So it takes a team mate to support the ball carrier being carried before the Ref calls 'Held'.
Actually it is right:
“succumb includes a player in possession being lifted off the ground and resulting in the calling of held by the Referee”
https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/operatio ... s_2020.pdf
It’s that way to stop you just picking up players and carrying them over sidelines or back into the in-goal etc. as well as just carting them back 5m generally. The rule you’ve cited is to do with what happens when a defending team mate comes into the picture.
It's got to be called 'held' by the referee. That needs a Raiders player to support the ball carrier. As we have seen over recent years the mere lifting/carrying of a player does not result in the immediate call of held.
https://www.rugby-league.com/governance ... f-the-game
I’m sorry, you’re wrong. If they lift the player from the ground the ref is to call held as per the rule I quoted. It’s got nothing to do with another attacking player.
I am quoting from the Laws of the Game, gangrenous. I note the author of the document you are quoting, Graham Annesley, has said in the introduction:
"This document is intended to provide
explanatory notes relating to the most
commonly scrutinised rules in the Telstra
Premiership, and the on-field interpretations
to be adopted by NRL match officials.
It does not deal with every aspect of the laws
of the game and should not be considered
a comprehensive summary of all situations
match officials may be confronted with
during the course of the 2020 season. "
Anyways, I hope the Refs do start calling 'held' for tackles on players where both feet are lifted off the ground because of the potential for injury to the player being 'carried'.