2022 Rd 12 V Eels: Game Day

[Thomas Raider]

Just no attacking class in the 20. What did Starling offer today?

[Postman Pat]

This is a pretty good parramatta team and we gave them a fairly good challenge
Lots for us to work on for sure, but i think if we play like this, we'll beat most teams

I agree, it’s a massive step up from how we were playing only a few weeks back.

[Billy Walker]

Glad we let Simmo go to buy back that plodder Cotric

Simmo, plays half ass for us for 2 years then plays the best game of his life against us.. Just to rub it in

Yeah Cotric just consistently poor these days

[Hong Kong Raider]

does Ricky ask for a new contract this week? He's shown he cannot coach against a good team. Woeful use of interchange bench and tactics to take the two.

But Parra a much better team. Two players that we have knocked on this forum - Simonsson and Dylan Brown, had wonderful games.

Fogarty reminds me of a poor man's Sezer without the tackling ability.

[Greenev]

The death riding of Savage is **** sad and pathetic, Seif.

Not death riding him at all.

I hope he has a wonderful career with us.

Today he has been poor and has demonstrated why he's not ready for regular first grade.

It's the people expecting him to be a game changer that you should be concerned about.

Okay so what does charnze give us over savage then?

Savage is - Quicker, safer at the back, better in backline plays, has a better passing game (not hard to be better than charnze there)

If your basing the fact charnze is better because hes safer and more reliable, I think you need to stop watching 2019 games because he has been anything far from safe and reliable this year.

[Begbie]

Good game, played well, enjoyable to watch. Parra were just better.

Yep. That’s about it. Just add that Brown was unbelievable and an honourable mention to Simmonson

[Raider47]

Did Parra have a tackle in our 20 that half?

Our attack was utterly putrid. So one out.

[Roger Kenworthy]

Good game of footy. We're just not quite at their level. I'll give ourselves a shot if we faced them again though with a bit more time for our team to gel with Fog

I think the scoreline flatters us. One of our tries was Gutho getting himself in a tangle trying to get a foot in goal, one was from dummy half and the other a bomb. Plenty of good fortune in our favour.

[Northern Raider]

Good game of footy. Eels just a bit too good. At least we look like we can compete for a top 8 spot now. Still need to lift another notch to do that.

[Mickey_Raider]

We didn't lose that through lack of effort.

We just have too many deficiencies in our DNA to be able to beat half decent sides if they turn up.

And we saw a reversion to the mean of some of our worst traits as a side: unimaginative attack; inability to score in the second half; and futile conservative game management from the coaching brains trust.

We are tracking perfectly for our fourth 10th place finish in six years.

[Ultima]

Whitehead... second worst player out there...

Fog worst?

Yep... I assume the only reason we bought him was organising our attack, getting repeat sets... He failed hard. Yes it was his first game of the season but if he can't outplay the kid he replaced, why isn't he getting match fitness in reserves?

[Bigcheese]

Entertaining game. Congrats to Bailey, he seems like a nice guy, just never played well for us and this would have to be a career best game for him.

Too many bad vibes towards Fog, it’s his first game, who isn’t rusty one game into the season.

Starling needs to have more impact coming on at that stage of the game.

Apart from that good effort!

[Green Taipan]

The coach made a bad call to take the penalty kick instead of going for the try. Very stupid.

[Rick]

When will everyone realise Starling is Cat Piss? We sick whenever he is on the ground.

We have looked better with Trevelan, Elliot, Hodgson and Woolford. Starling is ****.


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[The Nickman]

I thought Fogarty looked ok, it’s nice having two halves again, there’s plenty of options.

Not having CNK hurts the team too, hopefully he’s back sooner rather than later and we can solidify the combinations in our spine.

[Postman Pat]

Attack just not good enough and/or Parra's defence too good

You don’t win games letting in 28 points, at least we were in it.

They were on the rack second half and we couldn't finish them off

Brown finished us off tonight, Parra did defend well but I doubt they’ll be happy letting in 20 let alone 28.

[Greenev]

Whitehead... second worst player out there...

Fog worst?

Hahaha - either you are Shneiders wife, mate or he ran over your dog.

Sorry mate but if you cant see that fog was our worst thats your fault for not knowing footy.. Not mine

[Northern Raider]

The coach made a bad call to take the penalty kick instead of going for the try. Very stupid.

It was an odd call. Problem is we had plenty of goes at their line after that and came up blank. Nothing to say taking the tap would have been a better result for us.

[Canberra Milk]

I thought Fogarty looked ok, it’s nice having two halves again, there’s plenty of options.

Not having CNK hurts the team too, hopefully he’s back sooner rather than later and we can solidify the combinations in our spine.

CNK would have subtracted not added..X Man went close a couple of times in second half (despite Seif's bizarre death riding)... if he ran instead of passing v Waqa Blake he was over

[Greenev]

Whitehead... second worst player out there...

Fog worst?

Yep... I assume the only reason we bought him was organising our attack, getting repeat sets... He failed hard. Yes it was his first game of the season but if he can't outplay the kid he replaced, why isn't he getting match fitness in reserves?

I agree.. And by no means im saying sack fogarty, but he looked FAR away from what we need in a halfback at the moment. Surely this is just a fitness issue

for an example when he passed the ball long to cotric ( Which was a TERRIBLE pass, which cotric knocked on trying to kick ) Kris was straight through untouched literally off his hip..

[Canberra Milk]

We didn't lose that through lack of effort.

We just have too many deficiencies in our DNA to be able to beat half decent sides if they turn up.

And we saw a reversion to the mean of some of our worst traits as a side: unimaginative attack; inability to score in the second half; and futile conservative game management from the coaching brains trust.

We are tracking perfectly for our fourth 10th place finish in six years.

Sums up Raiders under Ricky. Good at effort and application. Not good at attack/chemistry/IQ

I'm ok with it though, Parra turned up and they're just a better footy team than us

[gangrenous]

I thought Fogarty looked ok, it’s nice having two halves again, there’s plenty of options.

Not having CNK hurts the team too, hopefully he’s back sooner rather than later and we can solidify the combinations in our spine.

CNK would have subtracted not added..X Man went close a couple of times in second half (despite Seif's bizarre death riding)... if he ran instead of passing v Waqa Blake he was over

Close doesn’t get you points. What might CNK have stopped in defence that counts on the scoreboard?

[Rick]

Starling is the worst. The end.


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[Hong Kong Raider]

We had enough possession to win that game. There were a couple of critical moments that we didn't ice - first was the 2 points decision. Then Savage not dummying and going himself but trying to pass to Rapa which resulted to Blake knocking it down. Then Fogarty's long pass to Cotric when he should have just found Kris when a 2 v 2.

We are a top 8 side but can't challenge the good teams. We probably won't make the 8 due to our losses to Nth Qld and Warriors with big leads.

And we are hampered by a unimaginative coach making wrong decisions - going for 2 points when we should have continued attacking and not going for 2 when they were 8 ahead. And why put Shiller on the bench when we won't use him unless there is an injury.

[Greenev]

We had enough possession to win that game. There were a couple of critical moments that we didn't ice - first was the 2 points decision. Then Savage not dummying and going himself but trying to pass to Rapa which resulted to Blake knocking it down. Then Fogarty's long pass to Cotric when he should have just found Kris when a 2 v 2.

We are a top 8 side but can't challenge the good teams. We probably won't make the 8 due to our losses to Nth Qld and Warriors with big leads.

And we are hampered by a unimaginative coach making wrong decisions - going for 2 points when we should have continued attacking and not going for 2 when they were 8 ahead. And why put Shiller on the bench when we won't use him unless there is an injury.

Agree with everything you've said here.. I feel so sorry for blokes like Paps and Taps throwing their bodys away every game for us when Ricky cant even coach attacking structure..

Bleed green but fellas

[Hong Kong Raider]

I thought Savage played Ok and offered more in attack than CNK did in 11 weeks. Just inexperienced with that loose carry and should have went himself in the second half instead of passing, allowing Waqa Blake to knock it down. If he was fully fit and trailing Sutton / Timoko we would have scored.

[BadnMean]

Did Parra have a tackle in our 20 that half?

Our attack was utterly putrid. So one out.

I posted before the game that we go back to one out grindball vs good teams when the pressure is on. We tucked it under the arm a bit and stopped offering a threat.

That's not on a single player it's either the team or an instruction. But taking the 2 was a pretty good indicator we thought we could play it safe for 35 mins and win it.

[Green Machine 2011]

We had enough possession to win that game. There were a couple of critical moments that we didn't ice - first was the 2 points decision. Then Savage not dummying and going himself but trying to pass to Rapa which resulted to Blake knocking it down. Then Fogarty's long pass to Cotric when he should have just found Kris when a 2 v 2.

We are a top 8 side but can't challenge the good teams. We probably won't make the 8 due to our losses to Nth Qld and Warriors with big leads.

And we are hampered by a unimaginative coach making wrong decisions - going for 2 points when we should have continued attacking and not going for 2 when they were 8 ahead. And why put Shiller on the bench when we won't use him unless there is an injury.

Agreed, we’re a top 8 side that wont make the top 8

[Rickmando]

I thought Fogarty looked ok, it’s nice having two halves again, there’s plenty of options.

Not having CNK hurts the team too, hopefully he’s back sooner rather than later and we can solidify the combinations in our spine.

CNK has no business being anywhere near the spine going forward

[FROG]

I'm not slitting my wrists after that performance. I thought both teams played very well. I thought fog showed plenty of promise. We are not far away I reckon. Bring on the roosters!

[Seiffert82]

The death riding of Savage is **** sad and pathetic, Seif.

Not death riding him at all.

I hope he has a wonderful career with us.

Today he has been poor and has demonstrated why he's not ready for regular first grade.

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1. Bull, you've been death riding him all game. And is indeed sad and pathetic
2. That last sentence proves it.

Sad and pathetic hey.

I get that you're keen to give me a bit of **** about my opinion of Savage because you want him to succeed.

If it's "sad and pathetic" for me to be disappointed with some of his play today then so be it. Maybe he gets 5 more weeks to show his wares.

I couldn't care less if people disagree with me. I wasn't a big fan of Reece Robinson for the same reasons, so I guess we'll agree to disagree.

Savage has youth on his side. I hope he bounces back. Today I thought he showed why the coaching staff have been hesitant to bring him in. If you saw it differently, then fair enough.

For what it's worth, I'm hoping Forgarty benefits from the run too. He was poor in defence today.

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[Green Machine 2011]

I thought Fogarty looked ok, it’s nice having two halves again, there’s plenty of options.

Not having CNK hurts the team too, hopefully he’s back sooner rather than later and we can solidify the combinations in our spine.

CNK has no business being anywhere near the spine going forward

Freudian slip. He meant CHN.

[Seiffert82]

The death riding of Savage is **** sad and pathetic, Seif.

Not death riding him at all.

I hope he has a wonderful career with us.

Today he has been poor and has demonstrated why he's not ready for regular first grade.

It's the people expecting him to be a game changer that you should be concerned about.

Okay so what does charnze give us over savage then?

Savage is - Quicker, safer at the back, better in backline plays, has a better passing game (not hard to be better than charnze there)

If your basing the fact charnze is better because hes safer and more reliable, I think you need to stop watching 2019 games because he has been anything far from safe and reliable this year.

Charnze has been very poor this season. I've said it a number of times.

Not sure what that has to do with how Savage played today. It's entirely irrelevant.

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[Dr Greenthumb]

I’m still shocked we took the two….it’s just astounding. We had an opportunity to get some fatigue into them early in the half and we decide to let them have a rest and recompose themselves!

[Hong Kong Raider]

Ironically we may have won today with Schneider in the team with his defence