2022 Rd 22 V Dragons: Game Day

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Who will win?

Raiders 13+
1
9%
Raiders 1-12
4
36%
Draw
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Dragons 1-12
1
9%
Dragons 13+
5
45%
 
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Re: 2022 Rd 22 V Dragons: Game Day

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kona_dream wrote: August 14, 2022, 4:27 pm
Finchy wrote: August 14, 2022, 4:14 pm
kona_dream wrote: August 14, 2022, 4:07 pm When will NRL teams become professional. I know I keep banging on about this but we again had the ball 36 seconds to go 25 out from their goal line. Run the ball back into our in goal and walk off winners. Inside 30 seconds to go that is the game.
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Except he just ran it back and over the sideline. I don’t think I will ever understand the back lash on doing this. We have players that lie down, weird dangerous tackles to gain the upper hand on play the balls. Yet you can easily win a game yet they simply don’t do it.
agreed. i've been screaming at players to do that for years, once you've got possession and there is only 30 seconds left in the game, take it dead and call it a game. Nothing wrong with it imo
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You should say that one more time, Jules
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julian87 wrote:There were countless stupid plays. But the set down their end when up by 6 with about 7 to go is possibly the worst halfback play I have ever seen. There were 5 gimme opportunities to kick a field goal. Nope, order 5 hit ups and then bomb to the in goal to give them a 20 tap.
It was literally the worst possible option to take in that situation.

Fogarty has improved over a few weeks, but that was a shocking play.

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If you werent going for the FG, and i can understand that... the kick HAS to be a grubber to trap them in goal for a repeat set or at least pin them inside their own 10

If you're going to bomb to the ingoal and give them a chance at a 7 tackle set, you might as well just take the FG attempt and try and finish the game
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I’m not sure if anyones said it, but I thought there were countless stupid plays. Speaking solely for myself, the set down their end when up by 6 with about 7 minutes to to go was possibly the worst halfback play I have ever seen personally. There were 5 gimme opportunities to kick a field goal, alas, it was not to be. Instead, order 5 hit ups and then bomb to the in goal to give them a 20 tap.

Anyone else feel the same, or is it just me?
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So pretty much we need Broncos to lose 3/3 and us to win 3/3 or Roosters to lose 2/3.

Not gonna happen the way we play and the form Roosters are in.
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Looks like you’re the first Fui!
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Botman wrote: August 14, 2022, 4:41 pm
kona_dream wrote: August 14, 2022, 4:27 pm
Finchy wrote: August 14, 2022, 4:14 pm
kona_dream wrote: August 14, 2022, 4:07 pm When will NRL teams become professional. I know I keep banging on about this but we again had the ball 36 seconds to go 25 out from their goal line. Run the ball back into our in goal and walk off winners. Inside 30 seconds to go that is the game.
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Except he just ran it back and over the sideline. I don’t think I will ever understand the back lash on doing this. We have players that lie down, weird dangerous tackles to gain the upper hand on play the balls. Yet you can easily win a game yet they simply don’t do it.
agreed. i've been screaming at players to do that for years, once you've got possession and there is only 30 seconds left in the game, take it dead and call it a game. Nothing wrong with it imo
Loving the GH - where the solition to all our fading issues is to run the ball back to our deadball line when there is less than 30 seconds left :roflmao

How about we get a few players back and pass it around a bit on the way back, we could take a punt with 45 seconds left.
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The NRL should get in front of that and put in a deliberate wasting time rule (if there isn’t one already).

No one wants to watch a GF end like that with 40 seconds on the clock.
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That’s a pretty big strawman there, Rog
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Roger Kenworthy wrote: August 14, 2022, 4:53 pm Loving the GH - where the solition to all our fading issues is to run the ball back to our deadball line when there is less than 30 seconds left :roflmao

How about we get a few players back and pass it around a bit on the way back, we could take a punt with 45 seconds left.
Its not the solution to ALLL our faiding issues. Just most. That shuan Johnson warriors game for example, we didnt touch the footy for those 4-5 minutes

I like the 45 second idea... if we're smart, once we have possession and it's a 1:30 left, we could honestly pass the ball back 10-15 metres each play, dance around a bit, come to the tackle and then on the last run it dead! We could probably get that out to near 2 minutes of play if we're dancing well enough once you add in the 30 second drop out clock

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Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:I’m not sure if anyones said it, but I thought there were countless stupid plays. Speaking solely for myself, the set down their end when up by 6 with about 7 minutes to to go was possibly the worst halfback play I have ever seen personally. There were 5 gimme opportunities to kick a field goal, alas, it was not to be. Instead, order 5 hit ups and then bomb to the in goal to give them a 20 tap.

Anyone else feel the same, or is it just me?
Yeah, I saw it a bit differently. I thought there were countless stupid plays. The set down their end when up by 6 with about 7 minutes to to go was possibly the worst halfback play I have ever seen personally. There were 5 gimme opportunities to kick a field goal, alas, it was not to be. Instead, order 5 hit ups and then bomb to the in goal to give them a 20 tap.

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Raider47 wrote: August 14, 2022, 4:52 pm So pretty much we need Broncos to lose 3/3 and us to win 3/3 or Roosters to lose 2/3.

Not gonna happen the way we play and the form Roosters are in.
Roosters have the Storm and Rabbitohs so there's a chance. That said I can't see us winning 3 on the trot. Pretty crazy if we do end up 14-10, should have been 15-9 without Matt Lodge taking a dive. Shows how weak the depth in the comp is, and with a 17th team to come in.
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Botman wrote: August 14, 2022, 4:55 pm
Roger Kenworthy wrote: August 14, 2022, 4:53 pm Loving the GH - where the solition to all our fading issues is to run the ball back to our deadball line when there is less than 30 seconds left :roflmao

How about we get a few players back and pass it around a bit on the way back, we could take a punt with 45 seconds left.
Its not the solution to ALLL our faiding issues. Just most. That shuan Johnson warriors game for example, we didnt touch the footy for those 4-5 minutes

I like the 45 second idea... if we're smart, once we have possession and it's a 1:30 left, we could honestly pass the ball back 10-15 metres each play, dance around a bit, come to the tackle and then on the last run it dead! We could probably get that out to near 2 minutes of play if we're dancing well enough once you add in the 30 second drop out clock

This **** is chess, it aint checkers!
Throw a few Brad Drew flat crossfield kicks in there too :thumbsup
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Roger Kenworthy wrote: August 14, 2022, 4:53 pm
Botman wrote: August 14, 2022, 4:41 pm
kona_dream wrote: August 14, 2022, 4:27 pm
Finchy wrote: August 14, 2022, 4:14 pm
kona_dream wrote: August 14, 2022, 4:07 pm When will NRL teams become professional. I know I keep banging on about this but we again had the ball 36 seconds to go 25 out from their goal line. Run the ball back into our in goal and walk off winners. Inside 30 seconds to go that is the game.
Also known as the Sam Walker
Except he just ran it back and over the sideline. I don’t think I will ever understand the back lash on doing this. We have players that lie down, weird dangerous tackles to gain the upper hand on play the balls. Yet you can easily win a game yet they simply don’t do it.
agreed. i've been screaming at players to do that for years, once you've got possession and there is only 30 seconds left in the game, take it dead and call it a game. Nothing wrong with it imo
Loving the GH - where the solition to all our fading issues is to run the ball back to our deadball line when there is less than 30 seconds left :roflmao

How about we get a few players back and pass it around a bit on the way back, we could take a punt with 45 seconds left.
I am not saying it is a solution to all of our fading issues. But we would have had a least 1 less loss this season if we did so. And that is likely to result in either making the 8 or not. That is one hell of a easy decision to make that make a huge difference on our season.
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Mickey_Raider wrote: August 14, 2022, 4:30 pm
gergreg wrote: August 14, 2022, 4:10 pm Up 24 to 12 and having all the momentum and a full attacking set in the 20. Dragons heads have completely dropped. We run five one out hitups, throwing absolutely nothing at them. Then give away a stupid penalty. Sums up the game, the season and the team at the moment.

It's too depressing to fully pick apart. We can say its a win but there's massive issues there.

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Yep this was the moment for me too.

Literally every time we have an opportunity to differentiate ourselves from plodding sides we just absolutely refuse to do so.

Sometimes they outplod us and we get away with the narrow victory (Knights, Dragons today).

Sometimes we outplod them (Warriors away, Dragons a few weeks back).

There is just no football IQ, no killer instinct, nothing. We just bumble along and hope that the other side is worse on the day.
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I don't think we win more easily with tapine. We bashed them. Way more metres. It was the goal line defence and goal line attack that made it a close game. There is no player that takes control like Hunt does for them.

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Put Ben Hunt in a Raiders jersey we win that by 20
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15 minutes to go and 12 points up and we put up a midfield bomb that barely makes their 30m mark. Maybe I’m old school but when you are up by 12 with 15m to go pin them on their try line please
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We struggle against absolute plodders, but we really struggle against good halves. Ben Hunt and DCE eat pieces of **** like us for breakfast.

Titans showing today how easy Manly are to smash. Watch DCE put a masterclass on next week against us to end our season
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dubby wrote: August 14, 2022, 5:11 pm Put Ben Hunt in a Raiders jersey we win that by 20
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Canberra Milk wrote: August 14, 2022, 3:47 pm That's the right call too. The tacklers don't need to get immediately up just because it's last seconds on the clock. There was no hold down
I reckon it was a bit of a hold, but probably passable- then the extra push down at the end while he hopped back to marker was all the ammo you usually need to give a ref.

CHN has practically zero match awareness during his time here. It hasn't improved ever so I think it's just how he'll be.
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gangrenous wrote: August 14, 2022, 3:45 pm Whew! But really silly holding that long on that last tackle.
After the dance moves the Dragons put on all day in the tackle the ref was consistent to the last whistle
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Riaan wrote: August 14, 2022, 3:52 pm Gee I think Savage gives away about two 40/20s a game. His positioning at the back is non existent.
You're kidding right? Ben Hunt kicking on the 2nd tackle isn't really on the FB positionally.

I guess this is the next cab off the rank when he has no errors to comment on.
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Hong Kong Raider wrote: August 14, 2022, 3:57 pm
Canberra Milk wrote: August 14, 2022, 3:54 pm
Riaan wrote: August 14, 2022, 3:52 pm Gee I think Savage gives away about two 40/20s a game. His positioning at the back is non existent.
Least of our concerns
Hunt is one of the best 40/20 exponents. Got one in the 3rd SOO when Teddy was the fullback.
Nup. Teddy needs to go back to reserve grade and work on his positioning, then he might be a good player one day.
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Roger Kenworthy wrote: August 14, 2022, 4:53 pm

Loving the GH - where the solition to all our fading issues is to run the ball back to our deadball line when there is less than 30 seconds left :roflmao

How about we get a few players back and pass it around a bit on the way back, we could take a punt with 45 seconds left.
I thought that actually was our 2nd half gameplan this season? 40 minutes of it.
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Hong Kong Raider wrote: August 14, 2022, 3:54 pm Enjoyed beating St George. After the Penrith bogans, St George is the second most disliked side:

Alleged rapist De Belin, Hip drop and high tackle specialist Tyrell Fuimaono, Jack Dirty Bird, Lair Lomax (can't blame Jess Sergis to break up with a brainless idiot like him) and of course Josh "Grubby" McGuire (even his own teammates hate him)
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I'd love to see a stat of the number of points we score per minute with Woolford on the field, vs our points per minute with Starling on the field.

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Interesting screen shot. All the commentators seem to be claiming a penalty was deserved, but maybe not! Seems to show time was up before the second push from CHN.

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cool head from the ref, well done. Second push was after clock hit zero. Was the right call.
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The push was definitely after the siren.

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Guys, guys, we don't need to tie ourselves up in knots every game just to prove or disprove the referees' calls always go against the Raiders and never the other team... can't we just admit it goes both ways?
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The Nickman wrote: August 14, 2022, 6:36 pm Guys, guys, we don't need to tie ourselves up in knots every game just to prove or disprove the referees' calls always go against the Raiders and never the other team... can't we just admit it goes both ways?
Oh Please - don’t you know unconscious bias’ only go against us. Keep up mate.
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He’s right you know
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Finchy wrote: August 14, 2022, 6:47 pm He’s right you know
About what?
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