Corey Harawira Naera’s career remains in limbo

[Northern Raider]

The bottom line is that CHN is going to be entitled to a full pay out of his contract if medically retired. He is well within his rights to try and get back on the field. If CHN is medically retired, the Raiders will be entitled to full salary cap relief from the time of the incident. It is in neither parties’ interests to try and find some sort of a negotiated payout, it’s so far fetched it’s downright ridiculous for anyone to keep suggesting it. The process will play out.

The Raiders are handling this perfectly and acting admirably. My goodness there’d be some awful reputational damage for the club with players and public alike if they were to try and do anything else.


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GE - can I ask you the same question I asked Finchy. Would you be ok with an outcome where CHN takes the entire time remaining on his contract to exhaust all options to try to return?

Asking GE if he would be OK with an outcome that is in all likelihood not going to happen is a pointless question.

[cat]

cat, do you understand what happens "in the real world" if you get injured at work and can't fulfil your duties?

Yes I do , the insurance company will want evidence the "injury " was caused by the job.
Having a seizure/medical episode due to a pre existing/none job related condition at the workplace doesn't give you workers compensation

There has been a number of staff have medical episodes in my work place where ambulances were called none of them were given workers compensation

This is not a work related illness/injury

He was actually fortunate that it occurred "at work" as it could have happened just as easily at home where there was no doctor available to help

In the real world he would be on leave without pay

[greeneyed]

Cat… it won’t come to that. There are medical processes in train and we have to be patient that those who have the appropriate information (which none of us have, appropriately) will work it through in a respectful way for all the parties. We certainly don’t know Corey’s episode is the result of a pre existing condition.

This is professional sport, it’s not an everyday situation, there are contractual obligations in place that have to be honoured. Not only legal issues, but insurance issues too - and those need to be settled by those with the information to do so.

[-TW-]

cat, do you understand what happens "in the real world" if you get injured at work and can't fulfil your duties?

Yes I do , the insurance company will want evidence the "injury " was caused by the job.
Having a seizure/medical episode due to a pre existing/none job related condition at the workplace doesn't give you workers compensation

There has been a number of staff have medical episodes in my work place where ambulances were called none of them were given workers compensation

This is not a work related illness/injury

He was actually fortunate that it occurred "at work" as it could have happened just as easily at home where there was no doctor available to help

In the real world he would be on leave without pay

How do you know it was pre existing?

How do you know those people still aren't fighting for workers compensation?

All I'm seeing from you is someone with an agenda against this guy, as you've presented the whole time he's played for the club

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[greeneyed]

I suspect the club would want the medical retirement paid by some sort of insurance, and the insurance would be in the habit of requiring clear medical evidence that he can no longer play.

In the case of CHN and a seemingly random seizure, that might be hard to obtain

The issue of having a defibrillator inserted will probably play a part there.

[Seiffert82]

cat, do you understand what happens "in the real world" if you get injured at work and can't fulfil your duties?

Yes I do , the insurance company will want evidence the "injury " was caused by the job.
Having a seizure/medical episode due to a pre existing/none job related condition at the workplace doesn't give you workers compensation

There has been a number of staff have medical episodes in my work place where ambulances were called none of them were given workers compensation

This is not a work related illness/injury

He was actually fortunate that it occurred "at work" as it could have happened just as easily at home where there was no doctor available to help

In the real world he would be on leave without pay

Yes, that is possible.

Funnily enough, NRL players do actually have sick leave entitlements (most recently reported in the Jackson Topine story).

In this case I suspect the club is doing the right thing by CHN, perhaps in large part as a publicity exercise to show how the club treats it's players.

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[Peter]

cat, do you understand what happens "in the real world" if you get injured at work and can't fulfil your duties?

Yes I do , the insurance company will want evidence the "injury " was caused by the job.
Having a seizure/medical episode due to a pre existing/none job related condition at the workplace doesn't give you workers compensation

There has been a number of staff have medical episodes in my work place where ambulances were called none of them were given workers compensation

This is not a work related illness/injury

He was actually fortunate that it occurred "at work" as it could have happened just as easily at home where there was no doctor available to help

In the real world he would be on leave without pay

None of us work in environments where our bodies are subject to constant and repetitious impact which has been proven to be equivalent to that of being in a car accident at speed.

Just because it hasn’t happened before does not mean it is not “work” related and I would take a guess that the RLPA who will represent Corey (if need be) will be requesting studies from the NRL which state that high impact collisions do NOT cause seizures. Which they obviously don’t have at this point.

The Raiders are doing the right thing by their employee and Corey is fully entitled to not be out of pocket for his current contract and perhaps beyond that if it is found to be a permanent condition that he has suffered in the course of his employment as a rugby league player.

[kona_dream]

cat, do you understand what happens "in the real world" if you get injured at work and can't fulfil your duties?

Yes I do , the insurance company will want evidence the "injury " was caused by the job.
Having a seizure/medical episode due to a pre existing/none job related condition at the workplace doesn't give you workers compensation

There has been a number of staff have medical episodes in my work place where ambulances were called none of them were given workers compensation

This is not a work related illness/injury

He was actually fortunate that it occurred "at work" as it could have happened just as easily at home where there was no doctor available to help

In the real world he would be on leave without pay

Yes, that is possible.

Funnily enough, NRL players do actually have sick leave entitlements (most recently reported in the Jackson Topine story).

In this case I suspect the club is doing the right thing by CHN, perhaps in large part as a publicity exercise to show how the club treats it's players.

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Does anyone know if the NRL “insurance” policy is a workers comp type policy or more of a personal insurance policy. Workers comp requires the injury to work related. Where as the personal policy is simply you are unable to preform your job due to accident/illness independent of how and where.

[Billy Walker]

No updates?

[Finchy]

No updates?

No. Hope this helps.

[Billy Walker]

No updates?

No. Hope this helps.

Sadly it doesn’t, we continue on with our 29 man squad I guess