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i think it's pretty obvious at this point that the eels picked sanders in their top 30 this year as a last ditch effort to keep him and when it became obvious to them that he is gone they've chucked the toys out of the pram and are now refusing to pick him for first grade.
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As julian mentioned earlier, contract talks aside, he's not the right choice for firsts anyway. If this was 2025 it'd be a different story but Sanders is not ready for first grade and Asi is their best choice.
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Raider Azz wrote:i think it's pretty obvious at this point that the eels picked sanders in their top 30 this year as a last ditch effort to keep him and when it became obvious to them that he is gone they've chucked the toys out of the pram and are now refusing to pick him for first grade.
That's my take too. Can't blame Parra for trying, but when your starting halves are Moses and Brown they were no chance of retaining him.

Interestingly, Moses is only a year younger than Fogarty and both halfbacks are signed until the end of 2026, but Sanders obviously sees more of a pathway (and dollars) here.


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Raider Azz wrote: April 11, 2024, 12:02 pm i think it's pretty obvious at this point that the eels picked sanders in their top 30 this year as a last ditch effort to keep him and when it became obvious to them that he is gone they've chucked the toys out of the pram and are now refusing to pick him for first grade.
I think all of the calls (e.g. from Andrew Johns) for Parra to play Sanders in first grade and criticism of them for not doing so is well over the top. Sanders hadn't even played NSW Cup until 1 month ago so I don't know why so many people are criticising Parra for not playing an 18yo rookie with no first grade experience and barely any reserve grade experience. He's yet to actually win a game in reserves, let alone banging down the door ala Trey Mooney from what I've gathered (I haven't watched a game). He wouldn't have made any difference to their crap start to the year IMO.

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Except they picked Blaize, who is the same age and had even less NSW cup games. He hasn’t even played in the halves.

Now they pick Asi, who has no kicking game to speak of and has been pretty meh in his first grade games. He has been worse in NSW cup in the games I’ve watched this year as well.

Sanders is a natural half and a much better fit with Brown who has struggled in an organising role.

Asi is probably less risky but picking Sanders would be half as dumb as going into a season with no genuine back up half apart from a 19 year old bloke who is leaving. Same sort of issue we saw at the Raiders with fullback last year, except Sanders is way ahead of where Stewart was at this stage.
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Based on everything that is being reported you can only assume that once he signs with us next week his management will be seeking an immediate release.
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Raider Azz wrote: April 11, 2024, 12:02 pm i think it's pretty obvious at this point that the eels picked sanders in their top 30 this year as a last ditch effort to keep him and when it became obvious to them that he is gone they've chucked the toys out of the pram and are now refusing to pick him for first grade.
Players don't get picked in the top 30. They make the list based on what they are paid. They may have upgraded the last year of his deal but that wouldn't make sense unless there was an extension involved.
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Green Blogger wrote: April 11, 2024, 1:39 pm Based on everything that is being reported you can only assume that once he signs with us next week his management will be seeking an immediate release.
Yep.

Coming into the year initially I thought just let him bide his time at the Eels, it would be good experience for him to learn more behind Moses.

But now seeing how much of a basket case the club is and how poor their lower grades are, you drop Sanders into our NSW Cup team and I reckon it will do wonders for his development.

Sanders for Guler anyone...
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IBG wrote: April 11, 2024, 5:09 pm
Green Blogger wrote: April 11, 2024, 1:39 pm Based on everything that is being reported you can only assume that once he signs with us next week his management will be seeking an immediate release.
Yep.

Coming into the year initially I thought just let him bide his time at the Eels, it would be good experience for him to learn more behind Moses.

But now seeing how much of a basket case the club is and how poor their lower grades are, you drop Sanders into our NSW Cup team and I reckon it will do wonders for his development.

Sanders for Guler anyone...
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Billy Walker wrote:
IBG wrote: April 11, 2024, 5:09 pm
Green Blogger wrote: April 11, 2024, 1:39 pm Based on everything that is being reported you can only assume that once he signs with us next week his management will be seeking an immediate release.
Yep.

Coming into the year initially I thought just let him bide his time at the Eels, it would be good experience for him to learn more behind Moses.

But now seeing how much of a basket case the club is and how poor their lower grades are, you drop Sanders into our NSW Cup team and I reckon it will do wonders for his development.

Sanders for Guler anyone...
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VIDEO: Barrett on Sanders: 10 years, not two weeks: Eels assistant coach Trent Barrett outlines the decision for rookie halfback Ethan Sanders' journey to first grade: https://www.nrl.com/news/2024/04/12/10- ... t-2-weeks/
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Eels rookie Ethan Sanders prepares to ask for release

Boom half Ethan Sanders could request a release from the Eels in the coming days as the 19-year-old headlines a list of the game’s hottest talents now free to talk with rival clubs. The likes of Sanders have had to bide their time until the completion of Round 6 although it is expected that the Parramatta’s SG Ball player of the year from last season will link up with the Raiders from next season.

That could even be fast-tracked with suggestions Sanders may ask for a release next week to join Canberra before the June 30 deadline having been overlooked multiple times to make his first grade debut in recent weeks.

Read more: https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport ... 2331b96bff

Why it's a massive week in the Raiders' future

It's set to be a big start to the week for the Canberra Raiders' future. They're not only expected to have an upgrade and extension finalised for young gun Ethan Strange - perhaps as early as Monday - but they're also able to talk to and sign young halfback Ethan Sanders as well. The 19-year-old is reportedly a chance to ask for an immediate release from Parramatta.

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239
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Blind speculation but I’ve felt all along he’ll be here this year once the paper work is officially lodged and I still believe it

No sauce just a gut feel that once the song is officially sung … all parties will be suitably motivated to work out a deal
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The drums have been beating long and loud on this one. Most league journos have talked lime it's been a done deal for 6 months. Will be stunned if it's not officially announced this week.

I'm still not sure how it could have all happened since we're not allowed to negotiate anything till now.
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Technically he could negotiate from last week, so theres been time. Also it was agreed a year ago so shouldn’t take a long time if nothings changed.

I watched his game on the weekend again. It was probably his best yet and he really took control of both sides of the ruck to engineer their comeback. He will just need to work on his line speed and defensive decision making, which will come with time.
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So… today’s the day, right?
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Does the 10 day cooling off period apply here too
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Yep, unless the Eels waive it.
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NoMan wrote: April 15, 2024, 8:45 am Yep, unless the Eels waive it.
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If its R6 then we have 10 day wait until an announcement, R5 a few days more. Unless waived.
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I don't think the 10 day cooling off rule
Applies here.
They have had 6 rounds to resign him anyway (Parramatta)
Why would they need an extra 10 days to changehis mind??
If so Parramatta should waive the 10 days.
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bayraider wrote: April 15, 2024, 9:18 am I don't think the 10 day cooling off rule
Applies here.
They have had 6 rounds to resign him anyway (Parramatta)
Why would they need an extra 10 days to changehis mind??
If so Parramatta should waive the 10 days.
technically we can't offer him a contract before R6 , so anything before that doesn't count. Same as the November 1 rule for NRL players
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bayraider wrote: April 15, 2024, 9:18 am I don't think the 10 day cooling off rule
Applies here.
They have had 6 rounds to resign him anyway (Parramatta)
Why would they need an extra 10 days to changehis mind??
If so Parramatta should waive the 10 days.
I think it will. It's not really a "cooling off" period. It is a provision to protect current clubs. It is a notification period to current clubs. Which gives them a window to make a counter offer (they can waive the 10 day period in writing if they wish). Given the Eels want to keep Sanders, I wouldn't be surprised if they try to counter.
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Well that sucks
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NoMan wrote: April 11, 2024, 1:22 pm Except they picked Blaize, who is the same age and had even less NSW cup games. He hasn’t even played in the halves.

Now they pick Asi, who has no kicking game to speak of and has been pretty meh in his first grade games. He has been worse in NSW cup in the games I’ve watched this year as well.

Sanders is a natural half and a much better fit with Brown who has struggled in an organising role.

Asi is probably less risky but picking Sanders would be half as dumb as going into a season with no genuine back up half apart from a 19 year old bloke who is leaving. Same sort of issue we saw at the Raiders with fullback last year, except Sanders is way ahead of where Stewart was at this stage.
They picked Asi. They rolled the Cowboys. Asi took plenty of pressure off Brown including doing about half the kicking which is a strong point of his game not the opposite.

I’m still gobsmacked they didn’t pick him 3 weeks ago.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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Northern Raider wrote: April 15, 2024, 4:56 am The drums have been beating long and loud on this one. Most league journos have talked lime it's been a done deal for 6 months. Will be stunned if it's not officially announced this week.

I'm still not sure how it could have all happened since we're not allowed to negotiate anything till now.
From what I've followed the round 6 rule came in later. We had him ready to go before that.
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julian87 wrote: April 15, 2024, 10:19 am
NoMan wrote: April 11, 2024, 1:22 pm Except they picked Blaize, who is the same age and had even less NSW cup games. He hasn’t even played in the halves.

Now they pick Asi, who has no kicking game to speak of and has been pretty meh in his first grade games. He has been worse in NSW cup in the games I’ve watched this year as well.

Sanders is a natural half and a much better fit with Brown who has struggled in an organising role.

Asi is probably less risky but picking Sanders would be half as dumb as going into a season with no genuine back up half apart from a 19 year old bloke who is leaving. Same sort of issue we saw at the Raiders with fullback last year, except Sanders is way ahead of where Stewart was at this stage.
They picked Asi. They rolled the Cowboys. Asi took plenty of pressure off Brown including doing about half the kicking which is a strong point of his game not the opposite.

I’m still gobsmacked they didn’t pick him 3 weeks ago.
Me too. I think BA will be asking himself the same question.
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They should keep Asi in the halves but Morgan Harper is one of the worst first graders going around
Tulagi should play centre in his spot
Kid is young but very talented which makes him 2/2 over Harper
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zim wrote: April 15, 2024, 10:34 am
Northern Raider wrote: April 15, 2024, 4:56 am The drums have been beating long and loud on this one. Most league journos have talked lime it's been a done deal for 6 months. Will be stunned if it's not officially announced this week.

I'm still not sure how it could have all happened since we're not allowed to negotiate anything till now.
From what I've followed the round 6 rule came in later. We had him ready to go before that.
The original media report that the Raiders had signed him came out well before 30 November last year. And it seems the parties weren’t supposed to be negotiating then, either. I’m wondering if it was somehow unclear that the 30 November rule applied to Sanders. In any case, it seems there has at least been some parameters informally agreed way back in July… after other clubs had been talking to him from at least early June.
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We are naughty boys.
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The Nickman wrote: April 15, 2024, 7:53 am So… today’s the day, right?
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Azza wrote: April 15, 2024, 11:59 am
The Nickman wrote: April 15, 2024, 7:53 am So… today’s the day, right?
That the lord has made?
The day that Ethan Strangers signs up to be a Raider for life.

Can't wait to see him take the field against the Broncos.
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Is he any relation to balki bartokomous?
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Azza wrote: April 15, 2024, 12:34 pm Is he any relation to balki bartokomous?
It's his city cousin, I believe.
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Eels teen makes big contract statement

A lot has been made of Brad Arthur’s decision not to give Ethan Sanders a shot at filling Mitchell Moses’ shoes and the up-and-coming halfback’s performance on the weekend will only fuel that even more.

19-year-old Sanders set up three tries — one with a cross-field kick and two via short balls to set up both centres. He also got two linebreak assists, ran for 49 metres and made 13 tackles with zero misses against an experienced Bears outfit.

That performance couldn’t have come at a better time given the clause in Sanders’ contract. As part of a revamped contract policy, off-contract players who are yet to play five senior games (NRL or NSW Cup/Queensland Cup), can’t talk to rivals until the end of Round 6. The Raiders’ have been interested in Sanders and are now free to negotiate with him.

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Eels just announced Lomax. Surely we’re good now.
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