2023 in review - Danny Levi
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2023 in review - Danny Levi
2023 in review - Danny Levi
Now it is season over for the Canberra Raiders, we will be reviewing all 30 players who pulled on a green jersey in first grade in 2023. So far, we have looked at the season of Sebastian Kris, Jordan Rapana, Albert Hopoate, Nick Cotric, James Schiller, Matt Timoko, Jarrod Croker, Harley Smith-Shields, Jack Wighton, Matt Frawley, Jamal Fogarty, Joseph Tapine, Josh Papalii, Emre Guler, Pasami Saulo, Ata Mariota, Zac Woolford and Tom Starling.
Hooker Danny Levi, stands at 177 cms and weighs in at 90 kgs. A similar player to Tom Starling, but a bigger player than Tom Starling. Born in New Zealand, he came through the ranks of the Newcastle Knights. He was captain of the Knights' Under 20s team and a Junior Kiwi in 2014. Made his NRL debut with the Knights in 2015. Went on to play 85 first grade games over five years in the Hunter.
He's been something of a journeyman. He was released early by the Knights to join the Manly Sea Eagles in 2020 (20 games), before heading to Brisbane in 2021. He initially signed to play in the Queensland Cup with the Norths Devils, but he was picked up by the Brisbane Broncos in late April (nine games).
At the end of 2021, he signed a two year deal with the Huddersfield Giants. He played 30 games with the English club, including the 2022 Challenge Cup final loss to the Wigan Warriors. It was the first appearance for the Giants in the final since 2009 - and Levi was a factor in getting them there. He was released early by Huddersfield - without acrimony - so he could return to the Anitpodes for family reasons.
News broke in October last year that Levi had signed a two year deal with the Green Machine, but it wasn't confirmed officially until early in January - just as he was reporting for training in Canberra. It was reportedly a deal worth just $150,000 a season.
Levi's signing made sense, given that up and coming hooker Adrian Trevilyan has been ruled out for a large part of the 2023 season after surgery for ACL and shoulder injuries. In addition, Ricky Stuart loves creating competition among the players for spots.
"He has really hit the ground running. He is fit and healthy and he has bought right into the place. Danny is going to get an opportunity in our first trial," Stuart said, during pre-season preparations.
"What he has done is created a very healthy competition. Zac [Woolford] and Tommy [Starling] have done a great job for us the last couple of years and that competition is very healthy for a very important position in the team."
It was a surprise to many, however, that he won the No. 9 jersey in Round 1. In my view, it was clear from the trials that the team functioned best when Zac Woolford was on the field. But, for whatever reasons, Woolford started the season in NSW Cup. Sadly, two minutes into the Round 3 clash with the Sharks, Danny Levi broke his jaw. That sidelined him for two months. He returned in the Round 12 loss to the Sea Eagles - coming in for Woolford, who was sidelined due to concussion. Woolford came straight back into the team the next week, while Levi took over at dummy half in NSW Cup.
Levi played 10 games in "reggies" over the second half of the season. Incredibly, he suffered his second broken jaw in green after only eight minutes of the Round 20 match against the Sea Eagles. Out for the year was the prognosis, but he made a surprise come back in the final round of the regular season - the Round 26 win over the Bears. He played some good footy in Cup, scoring two tries and posting four try assists, eight offloads, 82 running metres per game and a 92 tackle efficiency rate.
For his NRL games, I rated him an average of 4/10, with limited minutes in the match against the Sharks affecting that average. His season rating reflects the low number of NRL matches he played. His statistics are difficult to interpret, given his low number of appearances. His average running metres were well down the charts of NRL hookers, while average try assists and line break assists were not too far away from the top 10 players. His tackle efficiency rate was outside the top 20 hookers - and he ranked 13th at the club in that department.
Danny Levi attracted some interest from Super League clubs prior to breaking his jaw for a second time. Despite that setback the Raiders extended his contract by one year - to the end of 2025 - in early August. The extensions for both Danny Levi and Tom Starling surprised me a little. They are very similar players, and neither are regular first grade starters, in my view. Zac Woolford has some limitations to his game, while Adrian Trevilyan has had a horror run with injuries. Both are off contract at the end of 2024, and it is understandable why the club might adopt a "wait and see" approach for them both. But tying up both Starling and Levi puzzled me.
In any case, it is clear that the coaches rate Levi. He's just been selected for the Kiwis by New Zealand coach, and Raiders assistant, Michael Maguire. Few predicted that selection, given Levi hasn't played for New Zealand since 2017. He played for Samoa in last year's World Cup.
"We've had a few ruled out in the nine position with operations this year and it gives Danny an opportunity to get back into the Kiwis," Maguire said.
"He's obviously experienced and he's experienced at the international level so that was the appeal. I know that Danny will do a job for his players."
The Raiders have plenty of question marks over their line up in the spine in 2024. They have one senior half left in the top squad, following the departure of Jack Wighton, Matt Frawley and Brad Schneider. It looks like the Raiders will turn to youth to fill the No. 1 and No. 6 jerseys. There are four senior players on the books who can fill the No. 9, but it is probably a position that the Raiders would like to strengthen. There are some very good hookers in the Green Machine's junior ranks. But they won't be ready for the NRL for some time. Adrian Trevilyan is a young hooker with great promise, but his injury history is a concern. Who will step up at hooker next season? Time will tell whether Danny Levi will be able to force his way into the top 17.
How did you rate Danny Levi's 2023? Do you agree with our rating? Tell us below.
Danny Levi's 2023: 2.5/10
2023 Statistics: (Stats from Fox Sports Lab)
Games: 4
Average minutes: 31
Points: 0
Tries: 0
Try assists: 1
Try contributions: 0
Total try involvements: 1
Total kicks: 1
Kick metres: 2
Forced line drop outs: 0
Kick errors: 0
Total runs: 8
Dummy half runs: 7
All run metres: 76
Average metres per carry: 9
Average metres per game: 19
Tackle breaks: 0
Offloads: 0
Line breaks: 0
Line break assists: 0
Tackles: 71
Average tackles per game: 17
1 on 1 tackles: 4
Missed tackles: 6
Average missed tackles per game: 1.5
Ineffective tackles: 3
Tackle efficiency: 88 per cent
Try causes: 0
Line break causes: 1
Errors: 1
Penalties conceded: 2
Now it is season over for the Canberra Raiders, we will be reviewing all 30 players who pulled on a green jersey in first grade in 2023. So far, we have looked at the season of Sebastian Kris, Jordan Rapana, Albert Hopoate, Nick Cotric, James Schiller, Matt Timoko, Jarrod Croker, Harley Smith-Shields, Jack Wighton, Matt Frawley, Jamal Fogarty, Joseph Tapine, Josh Papalii, Emre Guler, Pasami Saulo, Ata Mariota, Zac Woolford and Tom Starling.
Hooker Danny Levi, stands at 177 cms and weighs in at 90 kgs. A similar player to Tom Starling, but a bigger player than Tom Starling. Born in New Zealand, he came through the ranks of the Newcastle Knights. He was captain of the Knights' Under 20s team and a Junior Kiwi in 2014. Made his NRL debut with the Knights in 2015. Went on to play 85 first grade games over five years in the Hunter.
He's been something of a journeyman. He was released early by the Knights to join the Manly Sea Eagles in 2020 (20 games), before heading to Brisbane in 2021. He initially signed to play in the Queensland Cup with the Norths Devils, but he was picked up by the Brisbane Broncos in late April (nine games).
At the end of 2021, he signed a two year deal with the Huddersfield Giants. He played 30 games with the English club, including the 2022 Challenge Cup final loss to the Wigan Warriors. It was the first appearance for the Giants in the final since 2009 - and Levi was a factor in getting them there. He was released early by Huddersfield - without acrimony - so he could return to the Anitpodes for family reasons.
News broke in October last year that Levi had signed a two year deal with the Green Machine, but it wasn't confirmed officially until early in January - just as he was reporting for training in Canberra. It was reportedly a deal worth just $150,000 a season.
Levi's signing made sense, given that up and coming hooker Adrian Trevilyan has been ruled out for a large part of the 2023 season after surgery for ACL and shoulder injuries. In addition, Ricky Stuart loves creating competition among the players for spots.
"He has really hit the ground running. He is fit and healthy and he has bought right into the place. Danny is going to get an opportunity in our first trial," Stuart said, during pre-season preparations.
"What he has done is created a very healthy competition. Zac [Woolford] and Tommy [Starling] have done a great job for us the last couple of years and that competition is very healthy for a very important position in the team."
It was a surprise to many, however, that he won the No. 9 jersey in Round 1. In my view, it was clear from the trials that the team functioned best when Zac Woolford was on the field. But, for whatever reasons, Woolford started the season in NSW Cup. Sadly, two minutes into the Round 3 clash with the Sharks, Danny Levi broke his jaw. That sidelined him for two months. He returned in the Round 12 loss to the Sea Eagles - coming in for Woolford, who was sidelined due to concussion. Woolford came straight back into the team the next week, while Levi took over at dummy half in NSW Cup.
Levi played 10 games in "reggies" over the second half of the season. Incredibly, he suffered his second broken jaw in green after only eight minutes of the Round 20 match against the Sea Eagles. Out for the year was the prognosis, but he made a surprise come back in the final round of the regular season - the Round 26 win over the Bears. He played some good footy in Cup, scoring two tries and posting four try assists, eight offloads, 82 running metres per game and a 92 tackle efficiency rate.
For his NRL games, I rated him an average of 4/10, with limited minutes in the match against the Sharks affecting that average. His season rating reflects the low number of NRL matches he played. His statistics are difficult to interpret, given his low number of appearances. His average running metres were well down the charts of NRL hookers, while average try assists and line break assists were not too far away from the top 10 players. His tackle efficiency rate was outside the top 20 hookers - and he ranked 13th at the club in that department.
Danny Levi attracted some interest from Super League clubs prior to breaking his jaw for a second time. Despite that setback the Raiders extended his contract by one year - to the end of 2025 - in early August. The extensions for both Danny Levi and Tom Starling surprised me a little. They are very similar players, and neither are regular first grade starters, in my view. Zac Woolford has some limitations to his game, while Adrian Trevilyan has had a horror run with injuries. Both are off contract at the end of 2024, and it is understandable why the club might adopt a "wait and see" approach for them both. But tying up both Starling and Levi puzzled me.
In any case, it is clear that the coaches rate Levi. He's just been selected for the Kiwis by New Zealand coach, and Raiders assistant, Michael Maguire. Few predicted that selection, given Levi hasn't played for New Zealand since 2017. He played for Samoa in last year's World Cup.
"We've had a few ruled out in the nine position with operations this year and it gives Danny an opportunity to get back into the Kiwis," Maguire said.
"He's obviously experienced and he's experienced at the international level so that was the appeal. I know that Danny will do a job for his players."
The Raiders have plenty of question marks over their line up in the spine in 2024. They have one senior half left in the top squad, following the departure of Jack Wighton, Matt Frawley and Brad Schneider. It looks like the Raiders will turn to youth to fill the No. 1 and No. 6 jerseys. There are four senior players on the books who can fill the No. 9, but it is probably a position that the Raiders would like to strengthen. There are some very good hookers in the Green Machine's junior ranks. But they won't be ready for the NRL for some time. Adrian Trevilyan is a young hooker with great promise, but his injury history is a concern. Who will step up at hooker next season? Time will tell whether Danny Levi will be able to force his way into the top 17.
How did you rate Danny Levi's 2023? Do you agree with our rating? Tell us below.
Danny Levi's 2023: 2.5/10
2023 Statistics: (Stats from Fox Sports Lab)
Games: 4
Average minutes: 31
Points: 0
Tries: 0
Try assists: 1
Try contributions: 0
Total try involvements: 1
Total kicks: 1
Kick metres: 2
Forced line drop outs: 0
Kick errors: 0
Total runs: 8
Dummy half runs: 7
All run metres: 76
Average metres per carry: 9
Average metres per game: 19
Tackle breaks: 0
Offloads: 0
Line breaks: 0
Line break assists: 0
Tackles: 71
Average tackles per game: 17
1 on 1 tackles: 4
Missed tackles: 6
Average missed tackles per game: 1.5
Ineffective tackles: 3
Tackle efficiency: 88 per cent
Try causes: 0
Line break causes: 1
Errors: 1
Penalties conceded: 2
Re: 2023 in review - Danny Levi
1 and that's generous
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5/23
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John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
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I’ve done my Danny Levi take many times
No need to rehash it.
2/10
No need to rehash it.
2/10
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I'm on the "why is he still here" train. Not sure what he adds/provides. 2.5 is generous, 1.5-2, IMO.
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Yeah, unfortunately not too many highlights in those stats.
It's a worry if the coaching staff are keen to start with him.
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Reserve grader and should never pull on a FG jersey.
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Third grader who should have never met the reserve grade coach.LimeGreenMachine wrote: ↑October 17, 2023, 6:18 pm Reserve grader and should never pull on a FG jersey.
3rd Battalion Royal Australian Regiment..Old Faithful
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Re: 2023 in review - Danny Levi
Agree LGM, Played his best football in NSW Cup. That is where he is at for mine. Appears to be very fit in the off season, but his skill level in 2023 was not FG level. His passing was atrocious, he managed to run backwards from dummy half on one occasion. No one knew what he was doing including him. I felt sorry for him and his family in that he copped two broken jaws in one season. Why the Raiders would extend him to the end of the 2025 season is beyond comprehension. We have some good young 9s who would have loved his NSW Cup spot in 2025. 2/10LimeGreenMachine wrote: ↑October 17, 2023, 6:18 pm Reserve grader and should never pull on a FG jersey.
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Re: 2023 in review - Danny Levi
I disagree with the popular opinion on Levi, but this isn’t a forum that is accepting of opposing views so I will quietly watch this one with interest.
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If you've got something to say about what you think he brings to the table and how he can help us elevate the team to success, im all ears.Billy Walker wrote: ↑October 17, 2023, 7:50 pm I disagree with the popular opinion on Levi, but this isn’t a forum that is accepting of opposing views so I will quietly watch this one with interest.
The forum is fine with opposing views, its built on traffic driven from people arguing about the most minor **** imaginable.
what it's generally not fine with is trolls and if you're just being saying **** to say **** because you're a troll, then consider it your off season strike 1. So let's hear it.
What does Danny Levi offer as a footballer that helps our football team? Passing? Play making? Running? Kicking game? What does he do that helps this team improve?
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No it isn’t!Botman wrote: The forum is fine with opposing views,
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Hey Botman’s found some courage and has stopped hiding from people who call him out on his nonsense. Good on you Botman - the big boy pants look good on youBotman wrote: ↑October 17, 2023, 7:58 pmIf you've got something to say about what you think he brings to the table and how he can help us elevate the team to success, im all ears.Billy Walker wrote: ↑October 17, 2023, 7:50 pm I disagree with the popular opinion on Levi, but this isn’t a forum that is accepting of opposing views so I will quietly watch this one with interest.
The forum is fine with opposing views, its built on traffic driven from people arguing about the most minor **** imaginable.
what it's generally not fine with is trolls and if you're just being saying **** to say **** because you're a troll, then consider it your off season strike 1. So let's hear it.
What does Danny Levi offer as a footballer that helps our football team? Passing? Play making? Running? Kicking game? What does he do that helps this team improve?
Re: 2023 in review - Danny Levi
Have you learnt to contribute in the past year or still trolling?
Let’s hear what you think Danny Levi can do for this football team from a skill and talent perspective. Put your big boy pants on and contribute
Let’s hear what you think Danny Levi can do for this football team from a skill and talent perspective. Put your big boy pants on and contribute
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On field 1/10
Intangibles 1000/10
Intangibles 1000/10
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I'd call you a turnip but that would be a bit mean to turnips.Billy Walker wrote: ↑October 18, 2023, 3:30 amHey Botman’s found some courage and has stopped hiding from people who call him out on his nonsense. Good on you Botman - the big boy pants look good on youBotman wrote: ↑October 17, 2023, 7:58 pmIf you've got something to say about what you think he brings to the table and how he can help us elevate the team to success, im all ears.Billy Walker wrote: ↑October 17, 2023, 7:50 pm I disagree with the popular opinion on Levi, but this isn’t a forum that is accepting of opposing views so I will quietly watch this one with interest.
The forum is fine with opposing views, its built on traffic driven from people arguing about the most minor **** imaginable.
what it's generally not fine with is trolls and if you're just being saying **** to say **** because you're a troll, then consider it your off season strike 1. So let's hear it.
What does Danny Levi offer as a footballer that helps our football team? Passing? Play making? Running? Kicking game? What does he do that helps this team improve?
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Re: 2023 in review - Danny Levi
Danny Levi is a flatout bum who can't play. Imagine my surprise our resident troll is going into bat for him, he's probably still hurting from the grand final loss.
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Re: 2023 in review - Danny Levi
Levi is the kind of player that does well in reserve grade. Unfortunately it's never really translated into firsts. Nothing changed when he joined us.
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Up there with Ata Hingano and Bill Tupou as ploders
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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Thats more to do with the lack of options the Kiwis have , they have no one else.
Levi is a reserve grade level player. He was at Manly , Newcastle and Brisbane. Nothing has changed since he joined us.
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And to add to that, he seems to be the back up. He may not even get a game unless Nu Brown is injured or **** the bed. A specialist hooker, yet his own club coach selected a journeyman half to start at 9 with a 33 year old injured Foran (another half) on the bench ahead of him.LimeGreenMachine wrote: ↑October 19, 2023, 8:16 amThats more to do with the lack of options the Kiwis have , they have no one else.
Levi is a reserve grade level player. He was at Manly , Newcastle and Brisbane. Nothing has changed since he joined us.
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So much hate for this guy. “Fans” seemingly annoyed he has been chosen for higher international honours. I believe he will be in our top 17 and I look forward to seeing what he brings with an injury free run to allow him to develop combinations. I consider him our best defensive 9 and he looked sharp jumping out of dummy half. The fact the ‘fans’ couldn’t escape the group think negative bias to recognise he played some good rotations won’t bother him or Ricky. I still think he will make people eat their words.
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And you'll be the joke of the forum again... nothing new here.Billy Walker wrote: ↑October 20, 2023, 4:56 am So much hate for this guy. “Fans” seemingly annoyed he has been chosen for higher international honours. I believe he will be in our top 17 and I look forward to seeing what he brings with an injury free run to allow him to develop combinations. I consider him our best defensive 9 and he looked sharp jumping out of dummy half. The fact the ‘fans’ couldn’t escape the group think negative bias to recognise he played some good rotations won’t bother him or Ricky. I still think he will make people eat their words.
****. Get over it
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Who's annoyed by him getting selected? No-one.Billy Walker wrote: ↑October 20, 2023, 4:56 am So much hate for this guy. “Fans” seemingly annoyed he has been chosen for higher international honours. I believe he will be in our top 17 and I look forward to seeing what he brings with an injury free run to allow him to develop combinations. I consider him our best defensive 9 and he looked sharp jumping out of dummy half. The fact the ‘fans’ couldn’t escape the group think negative bias to recognise he played some good rotations won’t bother him or Ricky. I still think he will make people eat their words.
He hasn't shown anything to make most believe he's anything but a NSW Cup level player.
If he has an amazing off-season and comes back a better player then we'll all be happy for him. It's unlikely.
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Re: 2023 in review - Danny Levi
Our best defensive hooker probably shouldn't be our least efficient tackler-
88% TE for Levi, against Starling (91%) and Woolford (94%)
And by far lead the team in penalties conceded per game at 0.5 per game... 2 in 4 games him on pace for 10 in 20 games
Woolford had 7 in 21 (0.3), Starling had 5 in 23 (0.2)
Zac Woolford had 2 TC and 2 LBC in 21 games... Levi had 0 TC and 1 LBC in 4 games.
Levi being our best defensive hooker is like the tooth fairy and santa... its fun to say it and it makes the kids (in this case, Billy) happy... but it's a lie.
And I'm not sure which of the 7 dummy half runs (average 2 runs per game for 19 yards) was so impressive... must have been a hell of a run to make a definitive statement that he looks sharp out of dummy half
For a bloke who's spent a significant amount of time on this website telling us that we should not have persisted with players who have underperformed and/or don't possess the upside of helping win a premiership, e.g deriding Croker for being a losing player because of he's played in 152 loses in 307 games (49.84% loss rate), I'm going to need to hear why we should persist with a low upside, underperforming footballer with 87 loses in 116 NRL game (75.86% loss rate)
88% TE for Levi, against Starling (91%) and Woolford (94%)
And by far lead the team in penalties conceded per game at 0.5 per game... 2 in 4 games him on pace for 10 in 20 games
Woolford had 7 in 21 (0.3), Starling had 5 in 23 (0.2)
Zac Woolford had 2 TC and 2 LBC in 21 games... Levi had 0 TC and 1 LBC in 4 games.
Levi being our best defensive hooker is like the tooth fairy and santa... its fun to say it and it makes the kids (in this case, Billy) happy... but it's a lie.
And I'm not sure which of the 7 dummy half runs (average 2 runs per game for 19 yards) was so impressive... must have been a hell of a run to make a definitive statement that he looks sharp out of dummy half
For a bloke who's spent a significant amount of time on this website telling us that we should not have persisted with players who have underperformed and/or don't possess the upside of helping win a premiership, e.g deriding Croker for being a losing player because of he's played in 152 loses in 307 games (49.84% loss rate), I'm going to need to hear why we should persist with a low upside, underperforming footballer with 87 loses in 116 NRL game (75.86% loss rate)
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Botman wrote: ↑October 20, 2023, 10:35 am Our best defensive hooker probably shouldn't be our least efficient tackler-
88% TE for Levi, against Starling (91%) and Woolford (94%)
And by far lead the team in penalties conceded per game at 0.5 per game... 2 in 4 games him on pace for 10 in 20 games
Woolford had 7 in 21 (0.3), Starling had 5 in 23 (0.2)
Zac Woolford had 2 TC and 2 LBC in 21 games... Levi had 0 TC and 1 LBC in 4 games.
Levi being our best defensive hooker is like the tooth fairy and santa... its fun to say it and it makes the kids (in this case, Billy) happy... but it's a lie.
And I'm not sure which of the 7 dummy half runs (average 2 runs per game for 19 yards, and only 1 run per game from DH) was so impressive... must have been a hell of a run to make a definitive statement that he looks sharp out of dummy half
For a bloke who's spent a significant amount of time on this website telling us that we should not have persisted with players who have underperformed and/or don't possess the upside of helping win a premiership, e.g deriding Croker for being a losing player because of he's played in 152 loses in 307 games (49.84% loss rate), I'm going to need to hear why we should persist with a low upside, underperforming footballer with 87 loses in 116 NRL game (75.86% loss rate)
I believe that is bingo, yatzee and checkmate.
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Re: 2023 in review - Danny Levi
Billy, I don't regard your pro-Levi commentary as trolling but do wonder what specifically it is you see in him. All I see is a very fit, hard-working effort player with a limited skillset.Billy Walker wrote: ↑October 20, 2023, 4:56 am So much hate for this guy. “Fans” seemingly annoyed he has been chosen for higher international honours. I believe he will be in our top 17 and I look forward to seeing what he brings with an injury free run to allow him to develop combinations. I consider him our best defensive 9 and he looked sharp jumping out of dummy half. The fact the ‘fans’ couldn’t escape the group think negative bias to recognise he played some good rotations won’t bother him or Ricky. I still think he will make people eat their words.
By far and away the most important quality in a hooker is passing ability. Levi demonstrated last year (and in his other NRL stints) that his passing is slow and not particularly accurate. Compounding this is he is entirely without any ability to deceive the defence nor can he pass long. This starts every play of every set on the back foot, which aggregates over the time he's on the field to greatly inhibiting our ability to advance our position, dominate the middle and create scoring opportunities.
I think he's a decent defender, irrespective of the stats, and a good but not great runner. However, neither of those factors are remotely close to offsetting the limitations of his service.
I also think our team is particularly unable to accommodate a hooker of his limitations, as we don't have a star half to create in attack and our attacking structures are simplistic.
Keen to hear your thoughts.
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Re: 2023 in review - Danny Levi
I'm with RD.
I've no idea what Billy sees in Levi.
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I've no idea what Billy sees in Levi.
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Re: 2023 in review - Danny Levi
to keep things interesting ill make the counter point:
Levi can play 80 mins at NRL level consistently, he is more switchable by being able to play loose forward if we decide to go smaller and chase games with starling on. Levi is a bit more nippier than woolford and is similar to woolford in defence. He didn't show this in first grade and then got injured but looked very good at the back end of the season in reserve grade.
My guess is that the coaches see more of a first grader in levi than woolford but as happened last year they went with the player that preformed better for the team. If levi can replicate his end of year reserve grade form he will be the starting 9.
Levi can play 80 mins at NRL level consistently, he is more switchable by being able to play loose forward if we decide to go smaller and chase games with starling on. Levi is a bit more nippier than woolford and is similar to woolford in defence. He didn't show this in first grade and then got injured but looked very good at the back end of the season in reserve grade.
My guess is that the coaches see more of a first grader in levi than woolford but as happened last year they went with the player that preformed better for the team. If levi can replicate his end of year reserve grade form he will be the starting 9.
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Re: 2023 in review - Danny Levi
Levi can look good in reserve grade, that is his level.
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Re: 2023 in review - Danny Levi
its a sample size of 124 mins.Matt wrote: ↑October 20, 2023, 11:10 amBotman wrote: ↑October 20, 2023, 10:35 am Our best defensive hooker probably shouldn't be our least efficient tackler-
88% TE for Levi, against Starling (91%) and Woolford (94%)
And by far lead the team in penalties conceded per game at 0.5 per game... 2 in 4 games him on pace for 10 in 20 games
Woolford had 7 in 21 (0.3), Starling had 5 in 23 (0.2)
Zac Woolford had 2 TC and 2 LBC in 21 games... Levi had 0 TC and 1 LBC in 4 games.
Levi being our best defensive hooker is like the tooth fairy and santa... its fun to say it and it makes the kids (in this case, Billy) happy... but it's a lie.
And I'm not sure which of the 7 dummy half runs (average 2 runs per game for 19 yards, and only 1 run per game from DH) was so impressive... must have been a hell of a run to make a definitive statement that he looks sharp out of dummy half
For a bloke who's spent a significant amount of time on this website telling us that we should not have persisted with players who have underperformed and/or don't possess the upside of helping win a premiership, e.g deriding Croker for being a losing player because of he's played in 152 loses in 307 games (49.84% loss rate), I'm going to need to hear why we should persist with a low upside, underperforming footballer with 87 loses in 116 NRL game (75.86% loss rate)
I believe that is bingo, yatzee and checkmate.
Re: 2023 in review - Danny Levi
It's a sample size of 8 seasons of NRL football and 116 games actually
How much more do you need to see?
Re: 2023 in review - Danny Levi
And 3 other clubsBotman wrote:It's a sample size of 8 seasons of NRL football and 116 games actually
How much more do you need to see?
Players with any ounce of ability don't get flicked by THREE clubs
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