Jamal Fogarty named Raiders vice captain for 2024
Moderator: GH Moderators
-
- David Shillington
- Posts: 48
- Joined: September 15, 2023, 1:27 pm
- Favourite Player: Jordan Rapana and Josh Papali’i
Re: Jamal Fogarty named Raiders vice captain for 2024
Whitehead will more then likely miss some games this year and I still think it’s a possibility Tapine will be Captain them games and Fogarty remain VC . Will be interesting to see what happens when the time comes.
-
- Jason Croker
- Posts: 4879
- Joined: August 28, 2016, 6:19 pm
- Favourite Player: Laurie Daley
Re: Jamal Fogarty named Raiders vice captain for 2024
Would have loved to have seen Tapine appointed captain or VC this year. He's our leader and arguably best player. From his ill discipline in getting into fights and niggly stuff earlier on in his career, he has matured into someone that the team follows. I don't see him speak much on the field though. But he has leadership skills and sets an example for teams to follow - see his game for the NZ Maori All Stars when he led the way. Still some way to get to a JFH level though and I think Maguire pointed out JFH's leadership abilities.
- Seiffert82
- Mal Meninga
- Posts: 28213
- Joined: March 17, 2007, 12:24 pm
- Favourite Player: Bay56
Re: Jamal Fogarty named Raiders vice captain for 2024
Sounds like everyone wants Tapine to be given the captaincy because he wants the job and is a good player on the field.
I'd be interested to know what his captaincy skills are like off the field. You don't need the C beside your name to display those.
This may be a blow to Taps ego (I wouldn't know one way or another), but if that's the case maybe he wants the captaincy for the wrong reasons.
Both Whitehead and Fogarty have publicly stated they didn't want captaincy roles, yet here they are. Perhaps something to reflect on.
I'd be interested to know what his captaincy skills are like off the field. You don't need the C beside your name to display those.
This may be a blow to Taps ego (I wouldn't know one way or another), but if that's the case maybe he wants the captaincy for the wrong reasons.
Both Whitehead and Fogarty have publicly stated they didn't want captaincy roles, yet here they are. Perhaps something to reflect on.
Re: Jamal Fogarty named Raiders vice captain for 2024
I don’t recall Elliott Whitehead saying he doesn’t want the captaincy. Anyone have a link?
- Seiffert82
- Mal Meninga
- Posts: 28213
- Joined: March 17, 2007, 12:24 pm
- Favourite Player: Bay56
Re: Jamal Fogarty named Raiders vice captain for 2024
There were a number of articles and interviews with Whitehead in 2020 and the start of 2021 where he said he initially wasn't comfortable in the role and wasn't looking for the gig, but he decided to embrace it more in 2021 as he took it on full time.
Sent from my CPH2021 using Tapatalk
Sent from my CPH2021 using Tapatalk
Re: Jamal Fogarty named Raiders vice captain for 2024
Wasn’t that only due to the fact that Josh Hodgson had just stood himself down from the role? In any case, I don’t think it’s a bad thing to have ambition to be captain. He’s keen to lead, he knows he relished the job leading the Māori All Stars and he certainly led by example.
Re: Jamal Fogarty named Raiders vice captain for 2024
Like what?Seiffert82 wrote: ↑February 5, 2024, 6:28 am This may be a blow to Taps ego (I wouldn't know one way or another), but if that's the case maybe he wants the captaincy for the wrong reasons.
I can't think of any reason to want the job that would be for wrong reasons.
As far as i know, there is no cap adjustment/incentive for being captain, it's not like the role of Raiders captain will afford him better post career media opportunities... well not meaningful ones anyways via Nine/Fox Sports/national radio etc. Might help with some local stuff but that's hardly game changing.
It's really just a lot of extra work Monday - Friday and added responsibility with no significant advantages.
The only reasons i can think to want it is because you think you're a good leader and ready and willing to take on the responsibility. And you can be wrong about that. You can think you're a good leader and not be. And you can think you're ready and not be. But I'm genuinely curious to know what reasons someone would want this gig that are motivated by wrong reasons.
- Seiffert82
- Mal Meninga
- Posts: 28213
- Joined: March 17, 2007, 12:24 pm
- Favourite Player: Bay56
Re: Jamal Fogarty named Raiders vice captain for 2024
I'm not saying Tapine is motivated by the wrong reasons, however I've worked for a number of leaders who were driven by ego.Botman wrote:Like what?Seiffert82 wrote: ↑February 5, 2024, 6:28 am This may be a blow to Taps ego (I wouldn't know one way or another), but if that's the case maybe he wants the captaincy for the wrong reasons.
I can't think of any reason to want the job that would be for wrong reasons.
As far as i know, there is no cap adjustment/incentive for being captain, it's not like the role of Raiders captain will afford him better post career media opportunities... well not meaningful ones anyways via Nine/Fox Sports/national radio etc. Might help with some local stuff but that's hardly game changing.
It's really just a lot of extra work Monday - Friday and added responsibility with no significant advantages.
The only reasons i can think to want it is because you think you're a good leader and ready and willing to take on the responsibility. And you can be wrong about that. You can think you're a good leader and not be. And you can think you're ready and not be. But I'm genuinely curious to know what reasons someone would want this gig that are motivated by wrong reasons.
Tapine certainly doesn't strike me as that type of personality, but the C beside his name shouldn't mean a damn thing if he wants to be a leader within the club. His time will come.
Hopefully he brings his A game this season, irrespective of the captaincy issue.
-
- John Ferguson
- Posts: 2498
- Joined: July 5, 2008, 6:35 pm
- Favourite Player: Savage, Timoko, Strange, Tapine, Rapana
- Location: Western NSW
Re: Jamal Fogarty named Raiders vice captain for 2024
Tapine has led on the field for the last 4 or 5 seasons for us, it is rare that a team can bring him down, he is a leader and I think duel vc with fog would be a perfect solution
Re: Jamal Fogarty named Raiders vice captain for 2024
Neeeegz wrote:Tapine has led on the field for the last 4 or 5 seasons for us, it is rare that a team can bring him down, he is a leader and I think duel vc with fog would be a perfect solution
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
-
- John Ferguson
- Posts: 2498
- Joined: July 5, 2008, 6:35 pm
- Favourite Player: Savage, Timoko, Strange, Tapine, Rapana
- Location: Western NSW
Re: Jamal Fogarty named Raiders vice captain for 2024
Or that, looks cool too, maybe before the first trial at the coin toss ?
Re: Jamal Fogarty named Raiders vice captain for 2024
For some, Captaincy or Vice Captaincy is a burden that affects their game. Others absolutely thrive on it. The early season form of Fog is showing he is thriving. As he has built up his FG experience he has got better and better. He has now matched the number of games he played for the Titans with the Raiders, both 41 for a total of 82 matches. Not only that, but he speaks well and brings credit to the club off field as well as on. Jamal Fogarty is a fine addition to the Raiders and leadership is no burden to him in the wake of high profile experienced retirement/departures from the club. Well done Jamal.