afgtnk wrote: ↑May 4, 2024, 9:04 pm
Leaving out proven danger men like Addo-Carr and picking that toiler Dylan Edwards is exactly what QLD want us to do. Edwards doesn't have the class for rep football.
Can't see Teddy being unseated, but if he is, it'll be for Turbo.
Three time premiership winner and CC medalist doesn’t have the class for rep football.
Couldn't care what he's won - he's still a toiler. He's playing in a very special team, with a very special system. He's a cog in that. He won't have the luxury of the same conditions at Origin level, nor will he be facing the quality of opposition he does at club level.
QLD will likely be lining up with Reece Walsh at fullback. Do you think Edwards matches up to that? We need pure game breakers and match winners in Origin, not battlers in good club form punching above their weight.
Tedesco look very slow chasing Mam last night. I wouldn't be picking him. He plays a bit like Paul Gallen in SOO. Turbo had his worst game against us. Edwards is in better form than both. Personally I'd go with Edwards but would be happy with Turbo.
NSW have a lot of uncertainties in their side - FB, centres, 5/8, middle forwards. I expect Qld to win again. Slater is good tactically, picks the right players, and can motivate them (e.g Munster having COVID and Dearden playing). He's sharp. Very impressive.
afgtnk wrote: ↑May 4, 2024, 9:04 pm
Leaving out proven danger men like Addo-Carr and picking that toiler Dylan Edwards is exactly what QLD want us to do. Edwards doesn't have the class for rep football.
Can't see Teddy being unseated, but if he is, it'll be for Turbo.
Addo Carr is exactly what NSW should avoid. He's fallen off a cliff since leaving Melbourne. Carries on like a Muppet as well. He, Latrell and Jarome Luai should be kept well away.
afgtnk wrote: ↑May 4, 2024, 9:04 pm
Leaving out proven danger men like Addo-Carr and picking that toiler Dylan Edwards is exactly what QLD want us to do. Edwards doesn't have the class for rep football.
Can't see Teddy being unseated, but if he is, it'll be for Turbo.
Addo Carr is exactly what NSW should avoid. He's fallen off a cliff since leaving Melbourne. Carries on like a Muppet as well. He, Latrell and Jarome Luai should be kept well away.
afgtnk wrote: ↑May 4, 2024, 11:47 pm
Couldn't care what he's won - he's still a toiler. He's playing in a very special team, with a very special system. He's a cog in that. He won't have the luxury of the same conditions at Origin level, nor will he be facing the quality of opposition he does at club level.
QLD will likely be lining up with Reece Walsh at fullback. Do you think Edwards matches up to that? We need pure game breakers and match winners in Origin, not battlers in good club form punching above their weight.
I think Dylan Edwards will get fullback but turbo is likely also. NSW needs to figure out that QLD is the best cover defence team in football which means the space the fullback can exploit is through the middle which Edwards does and teddy used to do.
The biggest test as to weather Madge know what he is doing comes from the GF last year. Broncs play as close to origin football as any team in the comp and it was only when clearly moved into 6 did he dominate. I really think this is blueprint, have a 7 to get to spots on the field and let clearly pick and choose his moments like Thurston did. Let's see.
Hong Kong Raider wrote: ↑May 5, 2024, 12:27 am
Tedesco look very slow chasing Mam last night. I wouldn't be picking him. He plays a bit like Paul Gallen in SOO. Turbo had his worst game against us. Edwards is in better form than both. Personally I'd go with Edwards but would be happy with Turbo.
NSW have a lot of uncertainties in their side - FB, centres, 5/8, middle forwards. I expect Qld to win again. Slater is good tactically, picks the right players, and can motivate them (e.g Munster having COVID and Dearden playing). He's sharp. Very impressive.
Will be interesting to say which way Madge goes, but I’d be happy if he picked Teddy. Ever reliable, and he’s proven highly effective at that level.
Bigger issue is having Yeo at first receiver. That needs to be eradicated if NSW are any chance of winning.
Blues legend backs 'dynamite' Raider for Origin selection
Blues legend Andrew Johns believes the "dynamite" Canberra Raiders second-rower should be included in the NSW squad wherever possible after his game-winning try for the Green Machine against Manly.
"He's a try-scorer," Johns said on Nine's Sunday Footy Show. "He's got the personality to play at that level and he's got the toughness, without a doubt. I think he'd be great in Origin. I would just have him somewhere in the 17."
Hudson Young's back to his match-winning ways and with it the Canberra Raiders second-rower could have launched himself back onto the State of Origin arena.
"Obviously got one wrong against Brisbane so to ground that one I was really happy," Young said of his match winning try against Manly. "Any game like that gives yourself confidence. I feel like I was going into the season really well and I know my game really well. Obviously it gives me confidence moving into the bye and looking towards the Bulldogs."
Hong Kong Raider wrote: ↑May 5, 2024, 12:27 am
Tedesco look very slow chasing Mam last night. I wouldn't be picking him. He plays a bit like Paul Gallen in SOO. Turbo had his worst game against us. Edwards is in better form than both. Personally I'd go with Edwards but would be happy with Turbo.
NSW have a lot of uncertainties in their side - FB, centres, 5/8, middle forwards. I expect Qld to win again. Slater is good tactically, picks the right players, and can motivate them (e.g Munster having COVID and Dearden playing). He's sharp. Very impressive.
Will be interesting to say which way Madge goes, but I’d be happy if he picked Teddy. Ever reliable, and he’s proven highly effective at that level.
Bigger issue is having Yeo at first receiver. That needs to be eradicated if NSW are any chance of winning.
Hong Kong Raider wrote: ↑May 5, 2024, 12:27 am
Tedesco look very slow chasing Mam last night. I wouldn't be picking him. He plays a bit like Paul Gallen in SOO. Turbo had his worst game against us. Edwards is in better form than both. Personally I'd go with Edwards but would be happy with Turbo.
NSW have a lot of uncertainties in their side - FB, centres, 5/8, middle forwards. I expect Qld to win again. Slater is good tactically, picks the right players, and can motivate them (e.g Munster having COVID and Dearden playing). He's sharp. Very impressive.
If it wasn't for the injury I'd like to see what Papenhuyzen could do in the origin arena. He's super fit and offers more in attack than Edwards. They talk about Edwards knocking on the door for a long time Papenhuyzen has been doing it for longer. I think a lot of folks seems to have forgotten just how elite he is.
Hong Kong Raider wrote: ↑May 5, 2024, 12:27 amTedesco look very slow chasing Mam last night. I wouldn't be picking him. He plays a bit like Paul Gallen in SOO. Turbo had his worst game against us. Edwards is in better form than both. Personally I'd go with Edwards but would be happy with Turbo.
NSW have a lot of uncertainties in their side - FB, centres, 5/8, middle forwards. I expect Qld to win again. Slater is good tactically, picks the right players, and can motivate them (e.g Munster having COVID and Dearden playing). He's sharp. Very impressive.
How did Edwards go trying to cut down Mam when he scored a hatrick in the GF last year?
If we go with picking 'in form' players like Edwards, then may as well call the series for QLD before it's played. Surely we've learnt in recent years that this approach has failed terribly.
Hong Kong Raider wrote: ↑May 5, 2024, 12:27 amTedesco look very slow chasing Mam last night. I wouldn't be picking him. He plays a bit like Paul Gallen in SOO. Turbo had his worst game against us. Edwards is in better form than both. Personally I'd go with Edwards but would be happy with Turbo.
NSW have a lot of uncertainties in their side - FB, centres, 5/8, middle forwards. I expect Qld to win again. Slater is good tactically, picks the right players, and can motivate them (e.g Munster having COVID and Dearden playing). He's sharp. Very impressive.
How did Edwards go trying to cut down Mam when he scored a hatrick in the GF last year?
If we go with picking 'in form' players like Edwards, then may as well call the series for QLD before it's played. Surely we've learnt in recent years that this approach has failed terribly.
Yeh, nah. The first try Mam had too much space running on an angle. Edwards nearly got him and could have if he had 10 more metres. The 2nd and 3rd tries didn't involve Edwards. He makes a crucial tackle on Walsh late in the game.
He did get to a runaway Bailey Simonsson in the 2022 GF.
Seiffert82 wrote:Ethan Strange and Xav Sav are the closest things we have to an Origin level player at the moment.
So yeah, I can't see any Raiders reps this year.
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Hang on, isn't Strange going to Captain-Coach Australia? I mean he could skip over SOO, but it seems unlikely.
Sure, why not.
Is that in relation to something I've said about him?
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No. Hope this helps
It does!
You hate to see it.
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate. John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
Hong Kong Raider wrote: ↑May 5, 2024, 12:27 am
Tedesco look very slow chasing Mam last night. I wouldn't be picking him. He plays a bit like Paul Gallen in SOO. Turbo had his worst game against us. Edwards is in better form than both. Personally I'd go with Edwards but would be happy with Turbo.
NSW have a lot of uncertainties in their side - FB, centres, 5/8, middle forwards. I expect Qld to win again. Slater is good tactically, picks the right players, and can motivate them (e.g Munster having COVID and Dearden playing). He's sharp. Very impressive.
Will be interesting to say which way Madge goes, but I’d be happy if he picked Teddy. Ever reliable, and he’s proven highly effective at that level.
Bigger issue is having Yeo at first receiver. That needs to be eradicated if NSW are any chance of winning.
Why is that? Seems to work well for Penrith.
The speed of the defensive line is too fast at origin level.
QLD know they can encroach on the 10m, because the referees like to limit penalties and “let the boys play” in origin.
They also know that hitting Yeo at first receiver is highly predictable.
They know Yeo hasn’t got a lot of aces up his sleeve and is pretty easily handled by the defenders. He isn’t a dangerous ball runner.
It just doesn’t work well for NSW. They need to rely more on Cleary and forcing him to get his hands on the ball more frequently and earlier in the play, gives him the time and space he needs. It is the best option.
Hong Kong Raider wrote: ↑May 5, 2024, 12:27 am
Tedesco look very slow chasing Mam last night. I wouldn't be picking him. He plays a bit like Paul Gallen in SOO. Turbo had his worst game against us. Edwards is in better form than both. Personally I'd go with Edwards but would be happy with Turbo.
NSW have a lot of uncertainties in their side - FB, centres, 5/8, middle forwards. I expect Qld to win again. Slater is good tactically, picks the right players, and can motivate them (e.g Munster having COVID and Dearden playing). He's sharp. Very impressive.
Will be interesting to say which way Madge goes, but I’d be happy if he picked Teddy. Ever reliable, and he’s proven highly effective at that level.
Bigger issue is having Yeo at first receiver. That needs to be eradicated if NSW are any chance of winning.
Why is that? Seems to work well for Penrith.
The speed of the defensive line is too fast at origin level.
QLD know they can encroach on the 10m, because the referees like to limit penalties and “let the boys play” in origin.
They also know that hitting Yeo at first receiver is highly predictable.
They know Yeo hasn’t got a lot of aces up his sleeve and is pretty easily handled by the defenders. He isn’t a dangerous ball runner.
It just doesn’t work well for NSW. They need to rely more on Cleary and forcing him to get his hands on the ball more frequently and earlier in the play, gives him the time and space he needs. It is the best option.
Clearly needs to play 6. He needs to pick his time and spots, play a little deeper which he can do at 6 to take away the rushing and sliding defence of QLD. Only problem is finding a 7 that can do a job with both Moses and Reynolds injured it's probably Niko, who is more a 6 1/2 than a 7.
Also for the first time in a while QLD will have the better forward pack so to'o, Lomax and Edwards will need to dominate meters from the back field, Which is why I think Edwards gets picked.
New South Wales name new-look team for Women's Origin series opener
New South Wales Blues coach Kylie Hilder has named her team for Game One of the 2024 Women's State of Origin series to be played at Lang Park on Thursday, May 16.
Hilder has named a new-look side for the series opener with several changes from the side that won last year's second game in Townsville – headlined by a likely new halves pairing in Corban Baxter and Rachael Pearson.
Canberra Raiders prop Grace Kemp will make her Origin debut.
Raiders rookie to make Blues debut in historic Origin series
Canberra Raiders prop Grace Kemp is set to make her Women's State of Origin debut for the NSW Sky Blues only a couple of years into her rugby league career.
"It hasn't quite hit me yet," Kemp said. "I've been watching it over the years and loving the level it's gotten to. I didn't think I was a chance for Origin selection. I was just enjoying the chance to learn the game. I'm hoping to bring some energy off the bench for the Blues.
The Nickman wrote:So are they playing the Women’s Origin before a ball has even been kicked in the NRLW?
Saves pesky things like picking players in form.
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate. John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
'Origin attitude' puts Hudson Young on track for Blues redemption
Hudson Young has unfinished business in State of Origin and he's hoping to get a chance of redemption when the NSW Blues squad is named in a fortnight.
"Something that I want to do is win a series and give back to the state and the NSW jumper," he said. "It's always in the mind, but I feel like it comes off the back of good performances. I feel like I've built my game well throughout the season. I just play my game and the rest comes on the back of it."